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IDemo

(16,926 posts)
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 02:27 PM Feb 2016

Consider these two statements by FBI Director James Comey

Both while addressing a congressional committee hearing on Thursday.

1) "Whatever the judge's decision is in California … will be instructive for other courts, and there may well be other cases that involve the same kind of phone and the same operating system."

2) "The San Bernardino litigation is not about us trying to send a message or establish some precedent."

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/san-bernardino-shooting/fbi-director-san-bernardino-iphone-case-not-about-setting-precedent-n525591

Discuss.

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Consider these two statements by FBI Director James Comey (Original Post) IDemo Feb 2016 OP
There is nothing to discuss Sherman A1 Feb 2016 #1
I don't see it that way IDemo Feb 2016 #2
Exactly what I have been saying... dixiegrrrrl Feb 2016 #3
Totally agree. nt avebury Feb 2016 #5
Let me translate for you Drew Richards Feb 2016 #4
Maybe you can explain IDemo Feb 2016 #6
Oh I agree completely the we one statement reflects my star wars reference. Drew Richards Mar 2016 #7
Anyone who thinks that if Apple caves and writes a new OS to unlock the San Bernadino iPhone, Nye Bevan Mar 2016 #8
He lets the truth slip in the first statement. NutmegYankee Mar 2016 #9

IDemo

(16,926 posts)
2. I don't see it that way
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 03:41 PM
Feb 2016

Please explain how these two statements are not at direct odds to one another.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
3. Exactly what I have been saying...
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 05:58 PM
Feb 2016

The FBI may have gotten used to Apple responding to legal requests on the older phones.

VERY interesting the minute Apple develops basically an unbreakable code for new phone, teh FBI becomes adamant that it be allowed into the phone.

The precedent here is very important.

IDemo

(16,926 posts)
6. Maybe you can explain
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 09:07 PM
Feb 2016

how the first statement can be interpreted to mean anything other than Comey's belief that the case can indeed establish a precedent.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
8. Anyone who thinks that if Apple caves and writes a new OS to unlock the San Bernadino iPhone,
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 03:24 PM
Mar 2016

that the feds will not then demand the same thing for a plethora of iPhones seized from other suspected terrorists, suspected drug dealers, sex offenders, and so on, is being a little bit naive IMO.

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