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http://theantimedia.org/federal-court-rules-can-arrested-simply-filming-the-police/The cases of Fields v. City of Philadelphia, and Geraci v. City of Philadelphia involve two different incidents where individuals were arrested for filming the police. Richard Fields, a Temple University student, was arrested after stopping to take a picture of a large group of police outside a house party. Amanda Geraci, a legal observer with CopWatch Berkeley, attended a large protest against fracking in September 2012 and was arrested while filming the arrest of another protester.
Both Fields and Geraci are seeking damages from the Philadelphia Police Department for violating their Constitutional right to videotape public officials. Previous rulings have found the public has a right to record police as form of expressive conduct, such as a protest or criticism, which is protected by the First Amendment....
The court wrote:
Fields and Geracis alleged constitutionally protected conduct consists of observing and photographing, or making a record of, police activity in a public forum. Neither uttered any words to the effect he or she sought to take pictures to oppose police activity. Their particular behavior is only afforded First Amendment protection if we construe it as expressive conduct.
This came to me from the FB page of an Autistic acquaintance who is nonverbal, though quite expressive at the keyboard. So I can film cops as long as I yell "Motherf'ing pigs!" or the equivalent, but she can't?
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)A boneheaded ruling at odds with lots of precedent.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Whether one is physically speaking (to challenge or criticize the police or to praise them or to say something else) is relevant to whether one is engaged in expression, Volokh wrote in the Washington Post. But its not relevant to whether one is gathering information, and the First Amendment protects silent gathering of information (at least by recording in public) for possible future publication as much as it protects loud gathering of information.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)though, it is also a statement in itself. It's hard to imagine this will not be reversed. Maybe we could also claim our smart phones have a religious right to testify.
It has occurred to me that as a retired person I have no compelling reason to avoid arrest. No job or reputation I can't afford to lose, no dependents who need me at home, a flexible schedule, house paid off, etc. Many, many millions enjoy the freedom of being jailed for documenting wrongs. Until it is reversed, bring on the cuffs.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Well, Apple and Samsung are people, after all.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)meow2u3
(24,764 posts)Everywhere else, filiming the police is a 1st Amendment right. Where did this incompetent and/or corrupt judge come from? Who paid him off?
SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)were we just watch the horror in silence.
valerief
(53,235 posts)NV Whino
(20,886 posts)Waste of time and (our) money.
Orrex
(63,213 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)The ability of the police to conduct surveillance in public places is premised on the ability of anyone to do so.
If it turns out that people aren't allowed to photograph or video things in public, then it's not as if the police have some sort of superior right to to do so.
This is not a well-thought-out decision.
JimDandy
(7,318 posts)in Citizens United?
U4ikLefty
(4,012 posts)There is a chance of arrest at a protest, so it's important to know you rights and be prepared.
Here some info from the National Lawyers Guild on legal obervers: https://www.nlg.org/sites/default/files/LO_Manual.pdf
This ruling sucks. I hope it's overturned.