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KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 02:56 PM Mar 2016

Fox’s Shep Smith shreds strategist: Republican Party lies gave rise to Donald Trump

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/03/foxs-shep-smith-shreds-strategist-republican-party-lies-gave-rise-to-donald-trump/

Fox News host Shep Smith grilled Republican strategist Doug Heye on Wednesday, arguing that Republicans created the conditions leading up to Donald Trump becoming the front-runner for the party’s presidential nomination.

Trump’s supporters, Smith said, are part of a second conservative party — people “who believe that they’ve been lied to by the establishment for cycle after cycle, [saying] ‘We’re gonna repeal and replace Obamacare.’ Every single person who knows one thing knew that you weren’t gonna repeal and replace Obamacare. Everybody knew it, even the people who were saying it.”

Despite that, he added, establishment GOP lawmakers kept saying they would gut the Affordable Care Act while not being able to do it.

“They don’t trust you anymore. Do you blame them?” Smith said of conservative voters. “Were they children and you the parent? Wouldn’t the child run away at 16?”


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Fox’s Shep Smith shreds strategist: Republican Party lies gave rise to Donald Trump (Original Post) KamaAina Mar 2016 OP
Wrongo Smith. Wellstone ruled Mar 2016 #1
Theory: Shepard Smith murdered someone and only Roger Ailes knows where the body is. Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2016 #2
I don't think it was lies as much as it was that conservatives were boxed in by ideology. hollowdweller Mar 2016 #3
Which ones? zipplewrath Mar 2016 #5
Categorically untrue: forjusticethunders Mar 2016 #6
Anybody remember the 2010 election? gratuitous Mar 2016 #4
Smith has always struck me as a decent COLGATE4 Mar 2016 #7
I haven't paid any attention to FOX in...maybe ever.... RichGirl Mar 2016 #8
 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
1. Wrongo Smith.
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 02:59 PM
Mar 2016

This turd was created by the Corporate Media to sell crap and it is now eating their lunch.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
2. Theory: Shepard Smith murdered someone and only Roger Ailes knows where the body is.
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 03:01 PM
Mar 2016

That's my only explanation as to why Shepard Smith still works for Fox.

 

hollowdweller

(4,229 posts)
3. I don't think it was lies as much as it was that conservatives were boxed in by ideology.
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 03:10 PM
Mar 2016

After a long period of democratic rule there really were some issues that could be addressed by a lot of the conservative philosophy.

Because of this and the shift in the country the dems even started embracing some of them. We don't like a lot of the stuff Clinton did in retrospect, but given the tone of the country he was able to use them and also some dem ideas to do a lot of good stuff.

However we turned back with Bush and he embraced no democratic ideas. The country started really going down the tubes.

But now, there are no problems left that can be solved by the conventional conservative ideology. None.

Many dems crossed over and voted for the GOP since 1980.

However because of the way the GOP wins elections, by making the other candidate not just wrong on the issues but by casting them as a bad person and danger to the republic, GOP voters have trouble voting for a dem even if they agree with them on the issues because they identify with their "team".

We always complain about the GOP voting their fears and prejudices rather than their pocketbooks. Well Trump filled the void!
They have someone who both caters to their fear and prejudices, but also embraces a lot of the Dems populist ideas. So they can vote for somebody that is actually representing their economic interest with out having to vote for the dreaded dems!

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
5. Which ones?
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 03:22 PM
Mar 2016
Because of this and the shift in the country the dems even started embracing some of them. We don't like a lot of the stuff Clinton did in retrospect, but given the tone of the country he was able to use them and also some dem ideas to do a lot of good stuff.


I'd be curious what you think that "good stuff" was and what conservative ideas contributed to them?
 

forjusticethunders

(1,151 posts)
6. Categorically untrue:
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 04:14 PM
Mar 2016

I can't think of a *single* conservative idea that actually works.

Privatization? Catastrophic failure.
Tax cuts? Catastrophic failure.
Deregulation? Catastrophic failure.
Social bigotry? Catastrophic failure.
Militarism? Catastrophic failure.

Literally everything conservatism tries to do ends in disaster, because conservatism isn't about good ideas, it's about funneling wealth upwards to the exploiting class.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
4. Anybody remember the 2010 election?
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 03:16 PM
Mar 2016

Remember what the Republicans ran on? Jobs. Jobs, jobs, jobs. Oh, they were going to pass jobs bills, you betcha. Americans wouldn't know what to do with all the jobs that were going to be created if only we'd put Republicans in office. Juggernaut? More like a jobbernaut, amirite? Even the laziest moocher welfare king or queen who ever mooched would be going off every day for a nine-to-fiver.

Say, anybody seen such a creature: A Republican jobs bill? Anyone?

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
7. Smith has always struck me as a decent
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 05:56 PM
Mar 2016

reporter, even if he's on Faux. I remember when he was on the ground in New Orleans with hurricane Katrina and O'Reilly kept trying to get him to make all the usual r-wing statements about it being the Mayor's fault, peoples' fault etc. Smith told him to pound sand and gave one of the clearest, most damning reports about conditions in the N.O. Dome at the time. His reporting would have done Walter Cronkite proud. I think he doesn't toe the Faux line too closely, which is probably what cost him his 7:00 Prime Time news spot.

RichGirl

(4,119 posts)
8. I haven't paid any attention to FOX in...maybe ever....
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 06:17 PM
Mar 2016

Is Geraldo still there? You never hear anything about him. Seems like he was a democrat at one time.

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