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muriel_volestrangler

(101,318 posts)
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 04:00 PM Mar 2016

Can a 3-year old represent herself in immigration court? This judge thinks so.

A senior Justice Department official is arguing that 3- and 4-year-olds can learn immigration law well enough to represent themselves in court, staking out an unconventional position in a growing debate over whether immigrant children facing deportation are entitled to taxpayer-funded attorneys.

Jack H. Weil, a longtime immigration judge who is responsible for training other judges, made the assertion in sworn testimony in a deposition in federal court in Seattle. His comments highlighted the plight of thousands of juveniles who are forced to defend themselves each year in immigration court amid a surge of children from Central America who cross the southwestern U.S. border .

“I’ve taught immigration law literally to 3-year-olds and 4-year-olds,” Weil said. “It takes a lot of time. It takes a lot of patience. They get it. It’s not the most efficient, but it can be done.”
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Weil’s deposition came in a case in which the American Civil Liberties Union and immigrant rights groups are seeking to require the government to provide appointed counsel for every indigent child who cannot afford a lawyer in immigration court proceedings.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/can-a-3-year-old-represent-herself-in-immigration-court-this-judge-thinks-so/2016/03/03/5be59a32-db25-11e5-925f-1d10062cc82d_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-more-top-stories_immigrationkids-930am%3Ahomepage%2Fstory


Where do you find judges who are that stupid, and how do you make them responsible for training other judges? And dumb enough to admit their stupidity in court? Shouldn't judges have a basic understanding of humans before they're let loose on the world?
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Can a 3-year old represent herself in immigration court? This judge thinks so. (Original Post) muriel_volestrangler Mar 2016 OP
These judges are not stupid. raging moderate Mar 2016 #1
his position does not say much about the qualifications it takes to be a judge or Angry Dragon Mar 2016 #2
Appointed in Dec 2009 KentuckyWoman Mar 2016 #3
What a weasel. nt bemildred Mar 2016 #4
I say we keep all the 3 & 4 year old (obvious) geniuses and deport the judge. Solly Mack Mar 2016 #5
He's not stupid, just callous WhiteTara Mar 2016 #6
He may well be an "authoritarian follower" with Hortensis Mar 2016 #11
"Your honor, move for recess for potty training and some apple juice?" Takket Mar 2016 #7
Is it a taxpayer funded court? Iggo Mar 2016 #8
The law needs to be changed ripcord Mar 2016 #13
“I’ve taught immigration law literally to 3-year-olds and 4-year-olds,” KamaAina Mar 2016 #9
“I’ve taught immigration law literally to 3-year-olds and 4-year-olds,” Iggo Mar 2016 #10
I thought this was the Onion at first Arazi Mar 2016 #12
Any child that young who can understand the law ... surrealAmerican Mar 2016 #14

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
11. He may well be an "authoritarian follower" with
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 04:54 PM
Mar 2016

that kind of behavior. They give their loyalty to the leadership they have chosen, and also entrust them with decisions of conscience. This guy's almost certainly just running with the loyal pack, no matter how well he might wrap it up in high-sounding verbiage.

ripcord

(5,404 posts)
13. The law needs to be changed
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 04:59 PM
Mar 2016

They don't get an attorney because they aren't charged with a crime.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
9. “I’ve taught immigration law literally to 3-year-olds and 4-year-olds,”
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 04:44 PM
Mar 2016

?En espanol? That's what I thought.

Iggo

(47,554 posts)
10. “I’ve taught immigration law literally to 3-year-olds and 4-year-olds,”
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 04:48 PM
Mar 2016

Bullshit, that fucking liar of a judge!

And it's a deposition, so he's lying under oath, right?

surrealAmerican

(11,361 posts)
14. Any child that young who can understand the law ...
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 05:47 PM
Mar 2016

... ought to be granted citizenship ...

... and a scholarship to the university of their choice. We need these brilliant young immigrants.

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