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(46,328 posts)
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 02:34 PM Mar 2016

Anti-gay kook wants vigilantes to attack gays like the one in Israel...

I wonder how long until he or his Dad actually go completely off their nut, buy lots of guns or go on a violent spree.

Theodore Shoebat Supports Violent Vigilante Attacks Against Gay Rights Activists

Submitted by Kyle Mantyla on Tuesday, 3/8/2016 12:43 pm

Last month, we posted a video in which militant anti-gay activist Theodore Shoebat declared that Jesus would have personally beaten gay people to death, which prompted anti-gay activist Michael Brown to fire off a column denouncing Shoebat and calling his views "utter rubbish."

That, in turn, set off a battle pitting Theodore and his father Walid against Brown and other anti-gay activists who have denounced the Shoebat family's extremist views.

Yesterday, Theodore and Brown finally faced-off in a debate on Brown's "Life of Fire" radio program and Shoebat posted video of his side of the conversation in which he made clear his support for violent vigilantism against gay activists.

When Brown asked him point blank if he thinks it is a good thing when militant Christian activists go out and physically attack activists marching in gay pride parades in other countries and whether he'd like to see the same thing happen here, Shoebat was unequivocal.

"I'll give you a short answer," he said. "To the first question: yes; to the second question: yes, absolutely."

Shoebat said that physically assaulting gay activists was theologically justified and praised the nations where it takes place, saying that "I wish America had this stuff."

When Brown asked Shoebat his thoughts on an incident in Israel last year in which six people were stabbed by an anti-gay militant during a gay pride parade and one young woman died, Shoebat said that "it really doesn't bother me, to be honest with you."

- See more at: http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/theodore-shoebat-supports-violent-vigilante-attacks-against-gay-rights-activists#sthash.qBVV0ofg.dpuf

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Anti-gay kook wants vigilantes to attack gays like the one in Israel... (Original Post) Archae Mar 2016 OP
I hadn't heard about these zealots... haikugal Mar 2016 #1
Give it time. Behind the Aegis Mar 2016 #2
He secretly suspects he might be gay... Human101948 Mar 2016 #3
That's actually a story straight people tell themselves so they can sleep at night and avoid Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #4
Just going by what I see around me... Human101948 Mar 2016 #5
Amazing, huh? Behind the Aegis Mar 2016 #6
I'm secretly a Nickelback fan. Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #8
Freepers post all of Shoebat's hate screeds And I mean ALL OF THEM He's got a big fan base there Monk06 Mar 2016 #7

Behind the Aegis

(53,959 posts)
2. Give it time.
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 02:52 PM
Mar 2016

I can honestly say I am surprised, if not outright shocked, there hasn't been a major incident at a pride rally to this point. However, it would still pale in comparison to the attacks on the GLBT from politicians and their minions...I mean supporters, who attack us, almost daily, through rhetoric and legislation. Of course, the very mention of Israel and GLBT issues is "Pinkwashing!!" Horrors! Oh wait, this is mentioning Israel and GLBT in a negative light, so that's OK. Whew. (Just in case: )

Most people aren't going to react well to physical attacks on GLBT people, for the most part, so they stick to attacking us where people don't mind or don't care, and that is in the courts and in the laws passed and still on the books. As long as they keep their hate nice and "intellectual", then homophobia and heterosexism "aren't real issues" and attacks against us are violations of our civil rights "because GLBT issues aren't really civil rights issues."

It is as it has been for centuries, with improvements ever now and again, for which we are to be eternally grateful and ignore the other realities facing us and our community.

 

Human101948

(3,457 posts)
3. He secretly suspects he might be gay...
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 02:54 PM
Mar 2016

And fights his impulses with this violent rhetoric. Virtually every religious nut and anti-gay politician is secretly gay and are self hating.

Which is a shame because of the damage they do to others.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
4. That's actually a story straight people tell themselves so they can sleep at night and avoid
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 03:09 PM
Mar 2016

dealing with their own fucking culture. These people belong to the 'faith community' and to the 'straight community'. Those are the communities that foster them, protect them and nurture them. It is because of straight religious people that our own Party answers this sort of horrific bigotry with 'well we support to some extent blah, blah, my good friend Rick Warren says yadda yadda."

 

Human101948

(3,457 posts)
5. Just going by what I see around me...
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 03:36 PM
Mar 2016

People so fearful of their impulses that they go off the deep end

The research, published in the April 2012 issue of the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, reveals the nuances of prejudices like homophobia, which can ultimately have dire consequences. [The 10 Most Destructive Human Behaviors]
"Sometimes people are threatened by gays and lesbians because they are fearing their own impulses, in a sense they 'doth protest too much,'" Ryan told LiveScience. "In addition, it appears that sometimes those who would oppress others have been oppressed themselves, and we can have some compassion for them too, they may be unaccepting of others because they cannot be accepting of themselves."
Ryan cautioned, however, that this link is only one source of anti-gay sentiments.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/homophobes-might-be-hidden-homosexuals/

Behind the Aegis

(53,959 posts)
6. Amazing, huh?
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 06:02 PM
Mar 2016

Racists secretly desire to be African-American/Latino/Asian-American/etc. Misogynists secretly desire to be women. Anti-Semites secretly desire to be Jews (I had a hard time writing that without laughing hysterically). All of those sentences sound absolutely insane, and yet, we still see the "they are secretly homos themselves" every...fucking...time...a straight person expresses homophobia! IMO, doing this is a form of homophobia and an expression of heterosexism!

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