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while some argue for "free speech"....free speech has a price and when your rhetoric is base on inflaming your supporters for hate, racism, bigotry and violence there comes a time when enough is enough. Yesterday we saw that in chicago when thousands of americans stood up to it....too bad that "good germans" didn;t do the same back in the 1920s....hitler would have been a small minor footnote in history....
Lets see how many legal fees trump is willing to pay for when the real violence starts erupting....trump has transformed into a monster who is hell bent on turning his supporters into a mob.....
good people need to stand up to it and yesterday they did in Chicago...
CanonRay
(14,117 posts)were all races, black, white, hispanic, asian. The whole neighborhood was there! That makes me hopeful.
Person 2713
(3,263 posts)Jenny_92808
(1,342 posts)this from your link. The students named their art project "It Comes Out Both Ends" (their message is true - smart kids)
https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20160311/north-park/this-trump-toilet-built-by-chicago-teens-for-sale-will-donald-buy-it
Glitterati
(3,182 posts)DrewFlorida
(1,096 posts)and hearing Trump yell "Throw Them Out" has built up some anger in me. Seeing people stand up to Trump and his supporters hatred and abuse, I felt proud. Proud there are so many people who feel the same way I do. Proud that, for at least one night, hatred was opposed and not allowed to spread it's wings. Proud, that good people are standing up to evil!
Jenny_92808
(1,342 posts)like button. Well Said!
Smarmie Doofus
(14,498 posts)I'm not sure exactly what happened in Chicago yesterday but as a general , pretty much *absolute* rule..... groups should be allowed to hold public rallies w/o having their speakers being disrupted, and effectively silenced. Nazis ( you brought 'em up) broke up communist, socialist and union rallies this way.
No evidence that ... otoh... that the nazi ascent to power would have been significantly hindered by anti-nazis disrupting nazi rallies.
In general: I'm not going to endorse fighting nazism.... or any of it's derivatives... by adopting nazi tactics. 2 reasons:
1. It's wrong to behave like a nazi.
2. It probably won't work. And might even help them out.
MichMan
(11,972 posts)While I understand the frustration with Trump, I would rather see people putting their energy into supporting Sanders rather than screaming against an opponent during an election process.
I feel that principles mean something and won't praise protestors for shouting down an opposing candidate ad supporters during a campaign. For those who support this, don't be hypocritical if Trump supporters do the same at a Sanders event.
IdaBriggs
(10,559 posts)I am pretty clear my grandfather would have preferred if the German people had taken the man down early in his career once it became obvious what he was trying to make happen, and let's not even discuss the rhetoric that led to the Holocost.
That shit is UNACCEPTABLE. And I call it "shit" for a reason.
The speech has been heard, so that box has been checked. The protesters are in the right to fight against the politics of hate. These people need to know their views are NOT WELCOME.
Jenny_92808
(1,342 posts)RIGHT! Thanks for saying that. I couldn't agree more.
Person 2713
(3,263 posts)Probably came from less than 25 miles away too
As one protestor said on tv this was about lives that matter that are being threatened by this hate wave . Germany let Nazis go on for years just shrugging at what was growing and a whole generation grew up in the propaganda
How big will the RW wing hate be allowed to grow ? It has already been going on for years
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027676673
^post of Nazi salute in Chicago^3/11/16
Also ACLU made a statement saying they had a right to protest this
MadDAsHell
(2,067 posts)That will make the election process nice and simple, and much cheaper than in the past as well!
IdaBriggs
(10,559 posts)"prove" YOUR point.
Reading comprehension is important. Keep swinging at the straw men, though - totally makes you look credible (at least THE OPPOSITE of it).
lunatica
(53,410 posts)This was bound to happen. The genesis goes way back to Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and others in the 1990s.
Words, hateful or otherwise have consequences.
Gidney N Cloyd
(19,847 posts)It doesn't mean violence but big loud turnouts in a strong show of solidarity goes a long way to remind them most of us know they're hateful fringe lunatics and neither mainstream nor acceptable.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)but when it becomes offensive it needs to be shut down.
Rebkeh
(2,450 posts)Chicago said, "No. Your hate filth is not welcome here." They have a right to say what is not acceptable in their community, there's no violation here.
I stand with them.
Stuart G
(38,448 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)abdicated. For a pathetically few years after disastrous WWI Germany tried "democracy" and it seemingly lead only to more disaster, which in turn disposed many to turn once again to an autocratic leader who promised to restore stability and prosperity.
We kicked out our only king nearly 250 years ago and are the planet's oldest current continuous democracy. We're not 1920s-30s Germany.