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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMemo from the powers that be:
We let you have the first black President.
We gave you gay rights.
We'll give you the first woman for president. Maybe.
We'll still own you. Be Happy.
We'll never give up our power.
litlbilly
(2,227 posts)upaloopa
(11,417 posts)We can elect a Dem President
We can elect a Dem Senate.
We can put Liberals on the Supreme Court.
We can overturn Citizens United.
We can win State Legislatures
We can redraw the election maps
We can take back the House
We can get tens of millions involved
All starts with voting in November. And takes years of involvement.
We out number them
But it means nothing if we don't vote.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)that you've listed. She is interested in amassing more and more money and power.
We out number those that side with Clinton and the Ruling Class.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)Any real look at Hillary's life show's how concerned she is for other people. But some of you will just have to wait and see for yourselves.
What I think is that you all have invested in Hillary all the negatives you are fighting against. You needed a foil and she is convenient.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)champion the lower classes. She is one of them, she has proven that amassing huge wealth is her top priority. We can look at her life and she fought for power at the expense of the lower classes. She is against medical marijuana. That should show you that profits of big pharm are more important to her than helping elevate the pain and suffering of those that need it. Here is what Black Lives Matters said about her:
The 1994 Crime Bill that she so vigorously defended not only expanded incarceration, but stripped funding for college education from prisoners. The Clinton legacy allowed for policies that prevented anyone convicted of a felony drug offense from receiving food stamps or income assistance. Clinton-led welfare reform fundamentally ripped apart the social safety net.
Make no mistake, Hillary Clinton's efforts to push these policies resulted in the continued destruction of Black communities and the swift growth of our mass incarceration crisis.
She is not the friend of the AA community. She is not a friend of the lower 99%.
SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)facts just bounce off
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)of the Ruling Class. They believe that the wealthy are anointed by god to take care of us in the lower classes.
The revolution is in progress but won't be televised by the Ruling Class Media. We will drag the corrupt oligarchs from our government and throw them in the streets. I don't support violence but I think we can do it non-violently.
kath
(10,565 posts)it's all about shaking those pompoms. Issues and facts be damned.
zeemike
(18,998 posts)Any real look at his life showed me how concerned he was for other people...I bought into the hope and change thing...and I waited to see it happen for myself.
After 4 years I thought for sure after he did not have to run again that change would come...fooled me again.
Now the sell job is even greater...and much harder to believe.
Not going to happen this time.
fun n serious
(4,451 posts)Land of Enchantment
(1,217 posts)DemocracyDirect
(708 posts)If she votes for the TPP, even a slightly modified one, then she's not for the people.
After the TPP, the votes of the people in many countries won't do a thing to move the needle.
Because any move towards socialism in those countries will result in law suits from corporations.
Oh and didn't Hillary call TPP the Gold standard? Making Goldman Sachs the standard bearer for the world.
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)Kip Humphrey
(4,753 posts)mia
(8,361 posts)Washington Post:
Curly Haugland, a Republican National Committee member, says the nomination process is pretty straightforward: The party, not the voters, chooses the nominee.
In an appearance on CNBC's "Squawk Box" on Wednesday morning, Haugland, a North Dakotan and current member of the RNC's Rules Committee, said that any assumption otherwise is misguided.
"That's the problem: The media has created the perception that the voters will decide the nomination," he said. He went on: "Political parties choose their nominee, not the general public, contrary to popular belief."
Technically, and historically, he's right, but I think we can imagine where this will be going...
mwooldri
(10,303 posts)First the "dog catcher's" race. Then the City Council. Then County Commissioner. Then State House & Senate. Then State Governor.
Go from ground up. It's the states that draw the electoral maps. Here the local politics have been getting more Republican than anything. Of course having Republicans take control of the NC House and Senate didn't help, plus them redrawing the electoral maps... plus them sticking their nose into local affairs by re-doing Greensboros' city electoral boundaries... plus wresting control of Asheboro's water system away from the city and Charlottes' airport from the city council... so they're heavily Democratic may be co-incidental to their so-called "improvements".
A local tv station here has a slogan: "start local, stay local." Same thing needs to happen with Democratic Party politics.
gcomeau
(5,764 posts)Not. Synonyms.
And the Democratic Party is absolutely intent on nominating the candidate who spent the primary trashing liberal policy positions for president.
That isn't taking your power back, that's prostrating yourself like a good peon. And I refuse to be complicit in supporting it.
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)lpbk2713
(42,763 posts)It's all a big club and we aint in it.
billhicks76
(5,082 posts)The real issues are wealth disparity, mass incarceration, a massive drug war that rules society whether dumbasses realize it or not, surveillance and wars and more wars and rumors of wars.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Jack Rabbit
(45,984 posts)We don't need your permission have a black president
We don't need your permission to recognize that gay people have and have always had equal rights
We don't need your permission to elect woman president.
We won't wait for your permission to elect a socialist president.
We dont expect you to give up power.
We are just going to take it away from you, because you're a bunch of fuck ups bereft of the wisdom to use it properly,
In_The_Wind
(72,300 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,676 posts)it must be taken away. Hopefully, in a non-violent manner.
PFunk1
(185 posts)If you don't cede power peacefully, you've eventually have it taken from you by force. And I fear we're headed for the latter and probally within my lifetime.
Hiraeth
(4,805 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)a cent. Higher taxes to pay for free tuition to state colleges and universities -- does.
Single payer health insurance will be cheaper for most taxpayers but will cost people who invest in health insurance companies some money so that idea is off the platform.
Gay marriage -- doesn't cost anything so Hillary recently decided to support it.
Raising the cap to fund Social Security -- costs something so just wait Hillary will find that impossible to do.
Protecting the environment will cost money so Hillary is weak on it.
So will changing our justice system and Hillary was positively arrogant when meeting with the Black Lives Matters emissaries.
Over and over, Hillary placates her voters on social issues (which are important, I grant you) but says no to the economic issues.
That's why she supports maybe a $12 per hour minimum wage but won't got to a marginally livable $15 per hour.
Bernie is way ahead of her on the economic issues. She shies away from them. She knows what the wealthy and powerful want and she is on their side.
$12 dollars an hour is a joke. $15 is acceptable but, just barely.
mia
(8,361 posts)Thank you!
Ex Lurker
(3,815 posts)LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)the first Jewish president, possibly with the first Hindu woman V.P.