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KeepItReal

(7,769 posts)
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 11:44 AM Mar 2016

US Rep. Cummings DESTROYS Michigan Gov Snyder At Flint Water Contamination Hearing

Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-MD) fiercely questioned Michigan Gov. Rick Snyder on Thursday during a House committee hearing over the water crisis in Flint.

“There is no doubt in my mind that if a corporate CEO did what Governor Snyder’s administration has done, he would be hauled up on criminal charges,” Cummings said during his opening statement.

“There will now be an entire generation of children who suffer from brain damage, learning disorders, and many other horrible effects of lead poisoning that were afflicted on them by Gov. Snyder’s administration,” he added.

“It seems like there are two basic possibilities. Either your chief of staff told you about these concerns and you did nothing, or he didn’t tell you and you are an absentee governor,” he concluded.

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/03/watch-elijah-cummings-annihilates-michigan-governor-rick-snyder-during-flint-hearing/






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US Rep. Cummings DESTROYS Michigan Gov Snyder At Flint Water Contamination Hearing (Original Post) KeepItReal Mar 2016 OP
Snyder is pointing his finger at the EPA, but he's the one who created the problem. B Calm Mar 2016 #1
His chief of staff and chief counsel KNEW they had f@cked up! KeepItReal Mar 2016 #2
This is Republicanism 101 King_Klonopin Mar 2016 #40
Snyder needs to be recalled and removed from office Gothmog Mar 2016 #3
Tragically, after my goddamned fellow Democrats had a hissy fit & stayed home in 2010, allowing this catbyte Mar 2016 #38
ex-Gov. Strickland of Ohio blamed much of the malaise of 2010 on Pres. Obama. Akamai Mar 2016 #49
And yet .. ananda Mar 2016 #4
He wants to look forward not back Johonny Mar 2016 #5
I look forward to seeing his right-wing ass behind bars! B Calm Mar 2016 #6
Exactly...and nothing less. tosh Mar 2016 #18
Congress Critter Matt Cartwright kicked his @ss today , as well etherealtruth Mar 2016 #7
The guy is worth $200 million safeinOhio Mar 2016 #14
He's been using taxpayer money to fund his defense, too. BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2016 #8
I respectfully disagree with Sen. Cummings on one point Orrex Mar 2016 #9
If a corporate CEO of a small 50 person corporation, I can see him I'm jail. LiberalArkie Mar 2016 #11
Yeah, probably Orrex Mar 2016 #12
Remember, this was the same, exact slogan repigs used against Clinton. louis-t Mar 2016 #28
Snyder embodies the Republican Party. Reckless, greedy, cruel, self-serving. nt valerief Mar 2016 #10
Rep. William Clay, D. Missouri is picking up the pace. Delmette Mar 2016 #13
His time was the my favorite of the hearing. He was wonderful and really laid it out there. MerryBlooms Mar 2016 #16
I heart Elijah! BlueMTexpat Mar 2016 #15
well, if you ever have the opportunity hopemountain Mar 2016 #41
If I ever do, I most certainly will! BlueMTexpat Mar 2016 #45
The sad thing is.. Else You Are Mad Mar 2016 #17
Rep. Cummings is a national treasure, we are lucky to have him serving us. Rex Mar 2016 #19
Hear What Flint Residents Think About --- #TrickyRickyLiarSnyder LovingA2andMI Mar 2016 #20
What's the difference between Snyder and Sadam Hussein? SCVDem Mar 2016 #21
Good point and from moral view completely valid whereisjustice Mar 2016 #48
I wrote to the governor when the news broke mountain grammy Mar 2016 #22
Snyder could care less heaven05 Mar 2016 #23
Yep. Octafish Mar 2016 #24
But Rep. Chaffetz give Snyder and the state a free pass, while only blasting the EPA. rladdi Mar 2016 #25
Cummings is tough BeyondGeography Mar 2016 #26
Not everything he says is correct tularetom Mar 2016 #27
DOJ did get that one mine disaster CEO...barely. KeepItReal Mar 2016 #30
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that was during the Eric Holder era tularetom Mar 2016 #33
He should have gotten the death penalty. B Calm Mar 2016 #42
K & R. Thanks for posting. Surya Gayatri Mar 2016 #29
You're welcome! KeepItReal Mar 2016 #32
I wish Representative Cummings would have a glass of the water, in his hand......................... turbinetree Mar 2016 #31
Snyder should be... 3catwoman3 Mar 2016 #34
How in the world can R's blame this on the EPA? It seems like they are spit balling it now uponit7771 Mar 2016 #35
In China they would march him .... Hotler Mar 2016 #36
Snyder needs to be in handcuffs! Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #37
I watched about 3 minutes of this shitbag on C-SPAN King_Klonopin Mar 2016 #39
Even congressional republicans yesterday (who underfunded the EPA) were pointing their fingers B Calm Mar 2016 #43
Cummings nailed it, but . . . Vinca Mar 2016 #44
and this is why this... Stellar Mar 2016 #46
There has to be zentrum Mar 2016 #47
 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
1. Snyder is pointing his finger at the EPA, but he's the one who created the problem.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 11:51 AM
Mar 2016

The SOB should be in prison!

KeepItReal

(7,769 posts)
2. His chief of staff and chief counsel KNEW they had f@cked up!
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 11:55 AM
Mar 2016

...for months and months and let those citizens continue to be poisoned.

The DOJ better come down hard on these bastards.


King_Klonopin

(1,306 posts)
40. This is Republicanism 101
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 03:05 AM
Mar 2016

Use a disaster (in this case, criminal negligence) which we created
to push an agenda -- in this case, their hatred of the EPA.

Classic jiu jitsu conservative politics. You can also assume that this
tactic was a coordinated effort by Snyder and his Congressional
conspirators. Let's blame gubmint !

catbyte

(34,413 posts)
38. Tragically, after my goddamned fellow Democrats had a hissy fit & stayed home in 2010, allowing this
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 09:27 PM
Mar 2016

clusterfuck to occur, the Republicans in the legislature made a recall almost impossible. The Republican party has ruined Michigan, but they wouldn't have had the opportunity to do so if Democrats had gotten off their asses and voted in 2010. I blame them as much as the Republicans.

 

Akamai

(1,779 posts)
49. ex-Gov. Strickland of Ohio blamed much of the malaise of 2010 on Pres. Obama.
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 10:49 AM
Mar 2016

Gov. Strickland, who lost by only a little bit to John Kasich, said that Obama did not define the differences between Republicans and Democrats nearly well enough. I certainly agree with that, and recall Obama using less than hot language to refer to the people who are sabotaging all of the Democratic hopes and aspirations.

Remember how Obama Referring to Republicans as "my friends"? They clearly were not his friends, but he did not make it clear to the American people how destructive the Republican Party was.

I do so like Obama in many, many ways, but his failure to "name and blame" the Republicans for the harm that they have done did lead in part to the debacle of 2010.

Go Bernie!

ananda

(28,868 posts)
4. And yet ..
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 12:08 PM
Mar 2016

.. has Snyder, a Reep, suffered any consequences yet?

Yeah, a verbal spanking will sure do it.

Johonny

(20,862 posts)
5. He wants to look forward not back
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 12:11 PM
Mar 2016

Hey we all do, but forward I see a huge cost to society in terms of lives affected and money to fix the water. In the future I also see you in jail a long time.

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
7. Congress Critter Matt Cartwright kicked his @ss today , as well
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 12:23 PM
Mar 2016

As a resident of Michigan I am horrified that my tax dollars are being used to fund Snyder's defense.

No words can adequately describe how I feel about an entire city being poisoned

safeinOhio

(32,706 posts)
14. The guy is worth $200 million
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 01:01 PM
Mar 2016

And can not only afford his lawyers, he can afford to help out the kids in flint. It'd be just terrible if he only left his own kids $100 million. Not like they have brain damage.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
8. He's been using taxpayer money to fund his defense, too.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 12:25 PM
Mar 2016

This POS needs to live the rest of his life in prison. And not no la-dee-dah minimum security golf resort for rich pukes.

Orrex

(63,217 posts)
9. I respectfully disagree with Sen. Cummings on one point
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 12:25 PM
Mar 2016
“There is no doubt in my mind that if a corporate CEO did what Governor Snyder’s administration has done, he would be hauled up on criminal charges,
That seems unrealistically optimistic, but the rest of his presentation is 100% spot on.

Orrex

(63,217 posts)
12. Yeah, probably
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 12:34 PM
Mar 2016

But a multi-state utility conglomerate, for instance? No chance in a million years.

louis-t

(23,296 posts)
28. Remember, this was the same, exact slogan repigs used against Clinton.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 02:32 PM
Mar 2016

Remember? And no one was poisoned. And no one died.

Delmette

(522 posts)
13. Rep. William Clay, D. Missouri is picking up the pace.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 12:51 PM
Mar 2016

He is slamming the R's for wanting to shut down the EPA and leaving it all up to the states.

My take on this is that Ms. McCarty has repeatedly tried to remind R's that the law includes respecting the state's right to handle clean water issues.

I have watched this hearing from the beginning. The tone of the questions is clearly divided on party lines. The D's are pushing the Governor to accept and acknowledge the state's responsibility even when they disparaged citizens and the mayor of Flint. The R's are blaming EPA for not acting sooner when the state was saying everything was ok.



hopemountain

(3,919 posts)
41. well, if you ever have the opportunity
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 04:37 AM
Mar 2016

please give him a huge hug for the rest of us - the kind that channels all the love from those who love and honor him back

Else You Are Mad

(3,040 posts)
17. The sad thing is..
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 01:12 PM
Mar 2016

That this sub-human scum bag will end up with a multimillion dollar a year lobbying job no matter what the outcome of this catastrophe. And, absent a miracle, will never see a day of jail time. What is just as sad, what Cummings said is wrong: there is no way a CEO would be held accountable in this day and age. Look at BP, Koch, ad nauseum. We need to start, as a people, rising up and making sure these things stop happening and that those that are liable/guilty are held accountable.

we CANNOT allow this to continue.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
19. Rep. Cummings is a national treasure, we are lucky to have him serving us.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 01:18 PM
Mar 2016

I love it when he takes down one of these empty suits.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
20. Hear What Flint Residents Think About --- #TrickyRickyLiarSnyder
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 01:18 PM
Mar 2016

Flint Water Crisis - Real Stories, Real People, Real Life - A Mini Documentary

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
21. What's the difference between Snyder and Sadam Hussein?
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 01:42 PM
Mar 2016

Both willfully poisoned and killed their people.

One paid the price and the other is why America is sucking.

Justice bought and paid for. The world is watching!

whereisjustice

(2,941 posts)
48. Good point and from moral view completely valid
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 09:52 AM
Mar 2016

A more progressive Democratic Party would be ruthless in seeking punishment. As we have seen with Wall Street and BP justice is for little people. Just don't get caught smoking pot or driving while black. There will be hell to pay.

mountain grammy

(26,635 posts)
22. I wrote to the governor when the news broke
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 01:47 PM
Mar 2016

And now get the daily updates from his office. He needs to know, the country is watching. We should put them all under a microscope.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
23. Snyder could care less
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 01:56 PM
Mar 2016

about the thousands he has doomed to a life of misery. As it is with any politician, in this case republican, he only cares that he got busted poisoning a whole generation of children.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
24. Yep.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 01:58 PM
Mar 2016

The guy said he won't resign because he wants to make things right with Flint's water, meaning his reputation.

rladdi

(581 posts)
25. But Rep. Chaffetz give Snyder and the state a free pass, while only blasting the EPA.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 02:18 PM
Mar 2016

Trashing the EPA was the only agenda the committee chairman had for the 3 meetings. Nothing was accomplished or resolve.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
27. Not everything he says is correct
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 02:23 PM
Mar 2016

Where he's wrong is that no corporate CEO would ever be hauled up on criminal charges. At least not by the Obama administration or the Bush administration and definitely not by the Hillary Clinton maladministration.

Definitely the Sanders administration would do it. Don't know about the Trump administration.

KeepItReal

(7,769 posts)
30. DOJ did get that one mine disaster CEO...barely.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 02:36 PM
Mar 2016
Donald L. Blankenship, whose leadership of the Massey Energy Company was widely criticized after 29 workers were killed in the Upper Big Branch mine in 2010, was convicted Thursday of conspiring to violate federal safety standards, becoming the most prominent American coal executive ever convicted of a crime related to mining deaths.

But in a substantial defeat for the Justice Department, the verdict, announced in Federal District Court here, exonerated Mr. Blankenship, Massey’s former chief executive, of three felony charges that could have led to a prison term of 30 years. Instead, after a long and complex trial that began on Oct. 1, jurors convicted Mr. Blankenship only of a single misdemeanor charge that carried a maximum of a year in prison.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/04/us/donald-blankenship-massey-energy-upper-big-branch-mine.html

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
33. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that was during the Eric Holder era
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 02:52 PM
Mar 2016

Which makes me question the enthusiasm with which the DOJ pursued Mr Blankenships conviction.

turbinetree

(24,709 posts)
31. I wish Representative Cummings would have a glass of the water, in his hand.........................
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 02:38 PM
Mar 2016

as a "Show and Tell moment"........................


and would have said to this criminal can you demonstrate to the entire nation , if you would please , if you will drink some of this lead tainted poisoned Flint water, to show the entire population that it is safe to drink?

Will you.......................

Then, he should look down at the Republicans in that hearing and say, is this what you want, you have neglected to fund infrastructure work in this country for a very long long time and we have 26 states that are controlled by your party neglecting the people of this country, by attacking the EPA and the Clean Water ACT, since your allies like the Koch have set up think tanks saying that they are not contaminating the water with there heavy lead, mercury filled pollution




Good on Rep. Cummings, hold this jerk accountable


Honk-----------------------for a political revolution Bernie 2016

Hotler

(11,431 posts)
36. In China they would march him ....
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 08:06 PM
Mar 2016

out to a dirt mound and make him kneel down and put an AK47 round in the back of his head and then send the bill for the bullet to his family.

King_Klonopin

(1,306 posts)
39. I watched about 3 minutes of this shitbag on C-SPAN
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 02:57 AM
Mar 2016

Had to turn it off before I vomited up my spleen.

Blamed everyone on the planet for the CRIME (it's a crime, not a disaster)
especially "government" entities like EPA. Included himself in a quick, vague
manner to give the appearance of accountability. Can I assume that his
republican pals covered up for him ??

Scum. Pure evil scum.

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
43. Even congressional republicans yesterday (who underfunded the EPA) were pointing their fingers
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 07:30 AM
Mar 2016

at the EPA and covering up his crime!

Vinca

(50,299 posts)
44. Cummings nailed it, but . . .
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 08:20 AM
Mar 2016

Congress is now in recess and Flint residents are still without potable water. No spring vacation for them.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
47. There has to be
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 09:22 AM
Mar 2016

……more than a scolding. There have to be real consequences.

And frankly, if he was in fact, a CEO of a big corporation, there would be even less chance of consequences. Is anyone investigating how Nestle is profiting from this crime? I don't think so.

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