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cali

(114,904 posts)
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 06:48 PM Jun 2012

Bill Clinton does it again

Bill Clinton says renew all expiring tax cuts temporarily, long-term cuts should exclude rich

By Associated Press, Updated: Tuesday, June 5, 6:18 PM

WASHINGTON — Former President Bill Clinton says broad tax cuts that expire in January should be temporarily extended, including for the wealthiest Americans, to give lawmakers time to reach a deal on long-term tax reductions that he says should exclude the rich.

Clinton’s comments Tuesday were in contrast to President Barack Obama, whose re-election he Clinton is supporting. Obama has opposed renewing the tax cuts for people earning more than $250,000 a year.


Reductions in income tax rates and other levies first enacted under President George W. Bush expire in January. Democrats say they want to extend the rates for all but the richest Americans, but Republicans say the wealthy should be included as well.

Clinton was interviewed on CNBC’s “Closing Bell With Maria Bartiromo.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/bill-clinton-says-renew-all-expiring-tax-cuts-temporarily-long-term-cuts-should-exclude-rich/2012/06/05/gJQAPRYoGV_story.html

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Bill Clinton does it again (Original Post) cali Jun 2012 OP
Somebody else on another thread pointed out something Solomon Jun 2012 #1
I think his undermining the President is almost pathological. cali Jun 2012 #2
almost? magical thyme Jun 2012 #3
It didn't start with Obama but with Kerry, iirc. EFerrari Jun 2012 #4
Something to consider about that cthulu2016 Jun 2012 #5
He gets his talking points daily from OFA. DURHAM D Jun 2012 #6
Link? AtomicKitten Jun 2012 #7
LInk what? DURHAM D Jun 2012 #9
So you just believe that to be true? No sale. AtomicKitten Jun 2012 #12
Clinton is everywhere re: Obama. DURHAM D Jun 2012 #13
He did an excellent job on national TV torpedoing Obama's core argument on Bain. AtomicKitten Jun 2012 #14
Don't worry - Axelrod will fix the points. DURHAM D Jun 2012 #15
Good for Obama except when it's not. AtomicKitten Jun 2012 #16
Back to my original suggestion. Let OFA know what you think. DURHAM D Jun 2012 #17
Your original suggestion was that he's taking talking points from OFA. AtomicKitten Jun 2012 #23
See Post 6 above. DURHAM D Jun 2012 #25
The comedy is that while reading these various Clinton betrayal posts cthulu2016 Jun 2012 #18
True. DURHAM D Jun 2012 #19
The argument from personal incredulity cthulu2016 Jun 2012 #10
Your valid point will be ignored cthulu2016 Jun 2012 #8
Oh well, the chief architect of the crisis tsuki Jun 2012 #11
I do not think his intentions are good. Redford Jun 2012 #20
Bush mouthpiece.........n/t Jello Biafra Jun 2012 #21
We can't afford to wait until enough Democrats get in Congress again. That is the only time such.. mvd Jun 2012 #22
Bill should just shut up. Blue_In_AK Jun 2012 #24

Solomon

(12,319 posts)
1. Somebody else on another thread pointed out something
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 06:57 PM
Jun 2012

I never noticed before: that it is definitely out of the ordinary for a former president to be so publicly active in ongoing political campaigns.

Methinks Bill is a bit paternalistic regarding the presidency.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
3. almost?
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 07:03 PM
Jun 2012

I'm getting pretty pissed off about it.

Apparently Nafta and Glass-Steaghall weren't enough. He's got to make sure there is no recovery ever. He really and truly needs to STFU.

EFerrari

(163,986 posts)
4. It didn't start with Obama but with Kerry, iirc.
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 07:06 PM
Jun 2012

Seriously, after I read that Clinton did tours in Latin America promoting free trade agreements for money, he pisses me off. Then, the ongoing destructiveness in Haiti where he wants to establish Juarez-type sweatshops and lastly, how he manages to undermine the sitting president. I wish he would retire and organize his papers or something.

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
5. Something to consider about that
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 07:11 PM
Jun 2012

A guy who plays no role at all is GW Bush.

Except Reagan and Clinton, every other former president in my fairly long lifetime was unpopular.

Reagan had Alzheimer's, so Clinton is the only beloved former president we've had lately who could campaign for folks.

Clinton actually helps. DU recreational hate-fests aside, Obama wants Clinton supporting him in a high profile way.

A former president is never going to be a surrogate... they don't say what they're told to say. But the persistent delusion that Clinton somehow hurts is just weird.

He is the equivalent of Reagan campaigning for Romney. The great majority of the Dem base loves Clinton.

DURHAM D

(32,611 posts)
9. LInk what?
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 07:27 PM
Jun 2012

You obviously have no idea how national campaigns work and the fact that OFA has asked Clinton to do what he is doing. It was in the news last week (TV) that he had to clear his schedule when he was asked to get involved immediately.

DURHAM D

(32,611 posts)
13. Clinton is everywhere re: Obama.
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 07:33 PM
Jun 2012

Do you know so little about how this works that you actually think BC is doing this on his own? Really?

 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
14. He did an excellent job on national TV torpedoing Obama's core argument on Bain.
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 07:41 PM
Jun 2012

And now he's urging Congress to extend the Bush tax cuts. It's hard to tell which side he's on at any given time. That's precisely why articles have been written on him "Savior or Saboteur?"

DURHAM D

(32,611 posts)
15. Don't worry - Axelrod will fix the points.
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 07:45 PM
Jun 2012

I know you don't want to believe this but Clinton out speaking and giving interviews is actually good for Obama, except on DU among 10-12 posters.

 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
23. Your original suggestion was that he's taking talking points from OFA.
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 07:57 PM
Jun 2012

You've inferred you just think that is true and have no evidence of it.

Conversely, lacking any evidence or link from you, I think it's not true and have BC's acts of sabotage on the Obama campaign to back that up. Just in the last week he gutted the president's core argument on Bain and now he's urging Congress to pass the Bush tax cuts. Any comments on that? I assure you he didn't get a directive from OFA to do that.

DURHAM D

(32,611 posts)
25. See Post 6 above.
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 08:09 PM
Jun 2012

I suggested you let Axelrod know what you think. You do know that OFA and Axelrod are one and the same thing don't you?

"acts of sabotage" LOL

If you believe that then advise Axelrod to remove Clinton from the campaign.

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
18. The comedy is that while reading these various Clinton betrayal posts
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 07:48 PM
Jun 2012

I've had MSNBC on the the background where the first 20 minutes of Hardball is clips of Clinton's rich praise of Obama last night while raising millions for his campaign.

So though I will grant that Clinton is not always on message, the cognitive dissonance has been funny.

tsuki

(11,994 posts)
11. Oh well, the chief architect of the crisis
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 07:30 PM
Jun 2012

we are in now is telling us how to fix it? Does he need more 150K speaking fees from the banks?

Redford

(373 posts)
20. I do not think his intentions are good.
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 07:51 PM
Jun 2012

I luvs me some BC but I feel like he is undermining the President and it is not an accident. I think he thinks Hillary might have a better chance in 2016 if Romney is elected in 2012.

mvd

(65,180 posts)
22. We can't afford to wait until enough Democrats get in Congress again. That is the only time such..
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 07:54 PM
Jun 2012

a deal could happen. Also, shouldn't be giving away a bargaining chip like the tax cut expiration.

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