The Big Lie

[Ichingcarpenter]

A big lie (German: große Lüge) is a propaganda technique. The expression was coined by Adolf Hitler, when he dictated his 1925 book Mein Kampf, about the use of a lie so "colossal" that no one would believe that someone "could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously."








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[Scuba]

1. Hillary is a progressive? All that money doesn't influence her policies?

Bernie is a commie who worships Trotsky?

[daleanime]

2. +1

[Ichingcarpenter]

4. I think it goes beyond partisan politics

even though you gave them as examples.

It involves something nefarious on a world wide level
orchestrated by the 1% and their banksters participating in a deep state and even a breakaway civilization on a geo political level that threatens not only humanity but the survival of earth as we know it.

`lol.......... just joking...... ha, has.......... how about that final four basketball contest?

[LiberalArkie]

8. That the 1% are not our reptilian overlords?

[LiberalArkie]

9. Or The Matrix is a documentary?

[Fritz Walter]

23. That 401(k)s are a good benefit?

That they put you in charge of your own retirement, and that you'll have more than enough to live on in your golden years?

Oh, and here's a 4% match to help you.

[Locrian]

24. #1 BIG LIE

"The "free market" will most efficiently raise everyone's standard of living and is similar to a "natural law" (like gravity) and should not be interfered with (except by those in power)."

[aggiesal]

28. Look up "Panama Papers" n/t

[Ichingcarpenter]

33. $32 TRILLION DOLLARS

if use correctly for humanity could do some amazing stuff........
But the rich aren't that rich are they?

Hey lets start a charity for more tax breaks!!

[aggiesal]

39. You forgot the "Sarcasm" emoticon. ...

So I'll put one here for you.

[Democat]

19. Your first thought when you read about Hitler is to bash Democrats?

Not Republicans.

Exposing you as a troll.

[Scuba]

22. No, my first thought was that so-called Democrats are using the big lie to bash Bernie.

[Buzz Clik]

20. Bernie has a plan? Bernie has experience? Bernie wasn't/isn't an ineffective career politician?

Bernie will run an ethical campaign that will not impugn the integrity of his opponents?
Bernie does not take money from big corporations or the fossil fuel industry?

[ghostsinthemachine]

3. "Terrorists hate our freedom"

The biggest of the big lies.

[AxionExcel]

5. "Bush and the Republicans kept us safe from terrorists"

[Mira]

7. Just what I was thinking

Investigate 9/11

[Octafish]

6. Lone nut killed JFK

Which is a theory based on shoddy workmanship.

[zeemike]

12. That was when they found out that it worked in the USA.

After that 911 was no problem.

[PatrickforO]

10. Some examples:

"We can either have JOBS or a clean environment, but not both!"

"Global warming is a hoax."

"The new ID laws have nothing to do with voter suppression."

"There were WMDs in Iraq."

"We didn't go over there for oil, we were promoting democracy!"

"Bernie supporters just want free stuff."

"If we help someone else, then we won't have enough."

"We need to pull ourselves up by the bootstraps. That's how we've ALWAYS done it here in Amurika!"

"Businesses are crippled with excessive regulation."

"We have the highest corporate tax rate in the world."

"Hey, if we cut taxes for the very wealthy, they'll CREATE JOBS!"

Just a few of many. Remember that we've had decades of corporate propaganda.

[KPN]

16. +1000!!!!

[daleanime]

17. A good start......

[Amimnoch]

25. A few more:

"enact a tax on wallstreet" - even when there's no potential version of congress that will pass that legislation.

"Increase the federal minimum wage from $7.25 to $15" - even when there's no potential version of congress that will pass that legislation.

"Reversing trade policies like NAFTA, CAFTA, and PNTR with China that have driven down wages and caused the loss of millions of jobs." - even when there's no potential version of congress that will pass that legislation.

"Fighting for pay equity by signing the Paycheck Fairness Act into law." - Even though it's never moved past the introduction to the House since March '15.

"Making tuition free at public colleges and universities throughout America." - again.. not a congress in sight.

"Expanding Social Security by lifting the cap on taxable income above $250,000." - Congress roll call vote? Yeah.

"Guaranteeing healthcare as a right of citizenship by enacting a Medicare for all single-payer healthcare system." - Sure, the same congress that has passed how many bills to kill the ACA act since 2010 is going to pass this

"Breaking up huge financial institutions so that they are no longer too big to fail. " - wow, powerful presidential authority.. or not.

Makes one wonder if there is a single promise being made that actually will have the authority to enact.

[Martin Eden]

34. The biggest LIE:

A candidate should never advocate and citizens should not insist on good policies that Congress, as currently populated by politicians beholden to corporate interests, will not pass.

[Amimnoch]

36. Avocation ≠promises.

And therein is the lie. It he only advocated it, he'd be honest and worth supporting. That's not what he does, he has said he "will", and there you have the lies. Especially since I see no movement from him to get the landscape of congress (other than DWS) changed.

You want to insist on good policies, start by insisting on a good congress. Even the Teaparty was smart enough to figure that one out. As screwed up as they were on the policies themselves, the teabaggers knew that going after congress was the way to go, and unfortunately they did it well. THAT's where this movement needs to go if you want something more than empty promises. Primary the bluedogs with real progressives, and then do what needs to be done to get them to win GE's.

Here's a little hint.. CONGRESS writes, and passes the laws. Not the POTUS, so his promises are lies.

What's ironic, he's in a position right NOW to actually write those laws he's proposing to pass as President. Wonder why he hasn't written them up yet?

[Martin Eden]

40. Show me the exact quote from Sanders, in full context

Then I'll decide if it's a lie, or just spin on your part.

Here's a little hint ... all POTUS candidates lay out a platform of policies the advocate, which can only be passed by Congress, and doing so does not constitute a LIE.

[PatrickforO]

42. X 1,000

You bet!!!!

[TexasBushwhacker]

11. The Left's attacks on religious liberty n/t

[Amimnoch]

37. +1000

[SoapBox]

13. War on Drugs?

[SoapBox]

14. Oh and...

The Liberal Media

and

The Job Creators

[Ino]

15. The Big Lie can be personal...

Poisoning people against each other...

Tom tells Dick that Harry said he was stupid (the lie).

Dick confronts Harry, who denies it. Dick will never be more than halfway convinced, because of course Harry would deny it. And Dick just can't believe Tom would tell a complete falsehood... there must be at least some truth to it.

Or Dick never confronts Harry... just drops him as a friend.

Tom's mission is accomplished.

I've run into several people like Tom. Until you've been in Harry's shoes, it's hard to believe anyone could be so evil.

[dmr]

38. Lots of truth to that.

Manipulators come far and wide, in all sizes, and in agendas.

Very damaging, to boot. I've been in both Dick's, and Harry's shoes.

The Toms of this world can be hard to detect, to catch, or even convince others of their divisiveness.

[PatrickforO]

43. People are really dumb sometimes.

There's the first person's version, the second person's version and the real truth is somewhere in between. Just because all of us tend to be self serving when confronted.

That's why forgiveness is so powerful. It's a release.

[Ino]

44. No, not always.

Sometimes people make things up that have absolutely no basis in truth whatsoever. Because THEY are self-serving.

[PatrickforO]

45. Well, that is the Rovian philosophy. Straight from the worm Lee Atwater.

These two did more than most others, probably, to remove any civility and statesmanship from the GOP.

[KPN]

18. K&R....

This is what Bernie's all about.

[liberalnarb]

21. trickle down

[jtuck004]

27. Examining the big lie: How the facts of the economic crisis stack up

November 26, 2011 9:00am by Barry Ritholtz

Examining the big lie: How the facts of the economic crisis stack up
Barry Ritholtz

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The big lie of the financial crisis, of course, is that troubling technique used to try to change the narrative history and shift blame from the bad ideas and terrible policies that created it.

Based on the scores of comments, people are clearly interested in understanding the causes of the economic disaster.
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A study by the Federal Reserve shows that more than 84 percent of the subprime mortgages in 2006 were issued by private lending institutions. The study found that the government-sponsored enterprises were concerned with the loss of market share to these private lenders — Fannie and Freddie were chasing profits, not trying to meet low-income lending goals.

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Fannie and Freddie risky loan purchases were dwarfed by Private Label Securitization Source: University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill

http://ritholtz.com/2011/11/examining-the-big-lie-how-the-facts-of-the-economic-crisis-stack-up/


It was on purpose, it was a raid on working Americans by bank$ter/jihadists. Tens of millions are still suffering the effects of this policy-driven theft.

[lark]

29. Raising the minimum wage hurts our economy

That's one super lie. Raising taxes on the 1% hurts the economy is another uber lie. The RW has many of these. Social security has to be cut, social security is an entitlement are just 2 more of the many big lies.

[90-percent]

30. Well, what do you know?

Frank Zappa's got a song about that!

-90% Jimmy

[saidsimplesimon]

31. excellent discussion, thank you all

[HughBeaumont]

32. "Hitler was a L'Internationale-singing LEFTITS!"

The joke is that I'm not kidding. There's seemingly a growing movement of online Penn Jillette wannabe revisionists that believes this horseshit wholeheartedly. Talk about going out of your way to revise history for the purpose of shitting on progressives.

[Arugula Latte]

35. "I was in the pool. The water was cold!"

[pressbox69]

41. The #1 Dangerous Lie

The Trickle Down Theory because so many idiots still buy into it.