Ted Cruz Tells Megyn Kelly He Would Force Rape Victims To Carry Rapist’s Baby

[KamaAina]

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2016/04/05/ted-cruz-tells-megyn-kelly-he-would-force-rape-victims-to-carry-rapists-baby-video/

Women “think you may be too far right on social issues,” Kelly told Cruz while pointing out that the GOP presidential wannabe’s stance on abortion rights is repelling female voters away from a Republican Party that needs votes from women if it hopes to survive in November.

But Ted Cruz refused to budge from his extremist views and openly stated that he believes rape victims should be forced to carry pregnancies that result from rape to term.
“Rape is a horrific crime against the humanity of a person. But at the same time, as horrible as the crime is, I don’t believe it’s the child’s fault. We want to do every thing we can do to prevent the crime on the front end and to punish the criminal. But I don’t believe it makes sense to blame the child.”

Kelly fired back by informing Cruz that women think he “would be forcing the mother to go through unspeakable trauma to carry her rapist’s baby for nine months.”

On that point, Kelly is correct. Forcing a woman to endure nine grueling months of a pregnancy she did not want only helps the rapist torture his victim more, it rewards the rapist with a child. And in far too many states, a rapist can then sue for parental rights and would be able to harass the victim for the next 18 years of the child’s life.

Well, at least he's still on speaking terms with Megyn. For now, anyway.

[Kip Humphrey]

1. QUESTION: If one of Crude's concubines or prostitutes became pregnant with his child, would he force

them to give birth to the demon seed?

[hamsterjill]

13. Am I a terrible person because I really, really, really want them to find something on Cruz????

I mean, I know there's been chatter about affairs, etc., but I want them to find something that he will not be able to weasel out of. I heard him speak the words the other day "I have never been unfaithful to my wife", and I just thought to myself that if there IS anything out there, then he's toast. And I SO want him to be toast!

[Hekate]

21. If DUers would spend half the energy trying to bring down Cruz by following his slime-trail....

...as they do nurturing their ODS and HDS, the job could probably get done in time to deny him the presidency for good. He is a horrible and dangerous man.

[hamsterjill]

30. Yes, he is very dangerous!

I'm from Texas...enough said. I don't want him anywhere near the White House!

[Warren DeMontague]

59. But Bernie derangement is okay?

"THAT MAN, THAT AWFUL, DESPICABLE MAAAAAAAAN!!!!!!!!"

[smirkymonkey]

24. Don't be so hard on yourself!

At least you're being honest. A lot of us wish much worse on him, we just don't say it.

[MyOwnPeace]

37. TRUE Karma.............

would be if it was something you were praying for - and your prayers were answered!

What an ASS that idiot is!!!!

[hamsterjill]

41. He is an ass and and idiot!

We simply must do all that we can to keep this crazy person from becoming President. That said, however, none of us can make something be there if ole Ted hasn't already done something he wasn't supposed to do himself. If he's telling the truth, then he hasn't engaged in any illicit affairs and has nothing to fear.

I worry that the chatter of late as to illicit affairs, etc. is just that - chatter. If they are only the musings of Trump (and others) to try to diminish Cruz and that chatter has no merit, I fear Cruz will ultimately benefit from that kind of attack.

But if there is something there that proves Cruz has had illicit affair(s), then I hope when the story is broken it will be irrefutable and correct.

[spartan61]

55. I so agree with you. n/t

[SwankyXomb]

34. He'd force his own daughters

to give birth to his children/grandchildren.

[LuckyLib]

35. This is the question that he needs to be asked. "What kind of a relationship will you

be expecting with the child your daughter gives birth to should she be a victim of rape?"

[avebury]

87. As well as the rapist if the rapist was able to fight for joint

custody of said child.

[StevieM]

107. Actually, that question is not altogether difficult to answer.

50 percent of women who get pregnant by rape have an abortion. 12 percent have a miscarriage. 32 percent give birth and keep the baby. 6 percent give birth a give the baby up for adoption.

Most women who follow through with the pregnancy wind up raising the baby and loving it. Some women can separate how the child was conceived from the child itself.

So I imagine that if this scenario happened that Ted Cruz would become a grandfather and have a loving relationship with his grandchild.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not suggesting that abortion should be disallowed, or that it is the wrong thing to do. And I'm certainly not saying that I like Ted Cruz in any way. I'm just answering your question as to what would most likely happen under the scenario you described.

[LuckyLib]

108. And that's the point of raising that question with Cruz. Thinking through that scenario

is something he has not likely done, given his knee-jerk reaction to a woman's right to choose whether or not to give birth.

[CTyankee]

54. oh, no, he'd have their little problems fixed so fast your head would spin...

that creepy prick is a fucking hypocrite...

[HuckleB]

2. The Rethugs have really gone full thug this election.

[LonePirate]

3. Members of both Dem candidates' "or bust" crowds need to remember statements like this come November

[DesertRat]

17. I certainly hope you're right

I'm supporting Hillary in the primary. But if Bernie is the nominee, I will write him a big check, make calls and knock on as many doors as I can to get him elected. We MUST prevent one of the Republican misogynist assholes from becoming president!!

[lark]

45. You are sooo exactly right.

Those who hate on either Hillary or Bernie should look at what the other side is offering and they'll both look awesome in comparison.

We are so screwed unless Dems are "all in" on this election.

[thereismore]

4. Megyn has one redeeming quality, and that is that sometimes she stands up for woman's rights. nt

[DesertRat]

16. You're right. nt

[DLevine]

5. Ted Cruz is an evil shitstain. nt

[yuiyoshida]

6. I wonder how he would feel if all those

women dropped their babies on his door step with a note saying; " I got raped, can't find the father, so you TAKE HIM (or Her)"

[oberliner]

7. If you actually believe that abortion is murder, then that is the only reasonable position

It can't sometimes be murder and other times not be murder.

[Mariana]

18. That is correct.

Any anti-choice person who says abortion should be banned "because it's murder" and then says there should be exceptions is a liar.

[Ilsa]

29. Exactly. The only

humane and logical position is to be pro-choice, while understanding that a blastocyst is not a baby.

[Nye Bevan]

44. Yep. I give him points for honesty.

If you truly believe that a fetus is a human being and abortion is murder, how can you say that it's OK to murder a human because his or her father was a rapist?

[SammyWinstonJack]

56. That is his stance and it shouldn't be forced on women. He doesn't agree

with a woman's right to chose because of his religious beliefs... fine, however that doesn't give him control over others.

[Nye Bevan]

61. I fully agree.

This is a reminder of why the Supreme Court is such an important issue this year.

[scioto99]

76. That's always baffled me as well. How do they explain the rape-and-incest exemption to themselves ?

The only theology that would make sense is:

If it's a fertilized egg created by rape or incest, Almighty God doesn't put a soul into it. So it's just tissue, not human being. So abortion is permissible.

But the trouble is, one has to recognize that huge numbers of children and adults in the world are, indeed, products of rape and incest. Think of all the girls and women raped in every war. Think of all the girls and women married without their consent, who have no power to say no to marital rape.

So look at all those soulless beings that are getting born. They must be all stomping around like golems or zombies. I'm just hoping they don't eat brains.

Sorry; it's not really funny. But it's still baffling.

And cruz is a jerk.

[LostOne4Ever]

82. I believe there are two types of anti-abortion nuts

[font style="font-family:'Georgia','Baskerville Old Face','Helvetica',fantasy;" size=4 color=#009999]Types like Cruz who don't give a damn about a woman's autonomy and would force them to carry a rapist's baby to term.

And then there are those who want the exception, because it not about being against abortion, so much as it is about punishing women for having sex.

They are both misogynistic slime.[/font]

[PJMcK]

103. Senator Cruz is a proponent of the death penalty

It's beyond my understanding how an Evangelical/Dominionist Christian like Ted Cruz can argue for the sanctity of life when the issue is related to abortion yet still be an ardent supporter of the death penalty.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2016/01/22/ted-cruz-embraces-the-death-penalty-even-though-he-should-know-better/

The hypocrisy is baffling.

[steve2470]

8. Welp he just lost the women who actually think about something besides religion....

He lost the non-religious men also who care about those women.

[Johonny]

9. I enjoy the GOP's propping up of Cruz as the better candidate

He's every bit as repulsive as Trump.

[BillZBubb]

26. He's actually far more repulsive than trump.

And far more dangerous.

[ScreamingMeemie]

31. Yup.

[SunSeeker]

72. Totally agree.

Cruz's religious demagoguery is vomit inducing.

[runaway hero]

92. very true

[pansypoo53219]

10. because rape babies are a CHEAP GIFT!

[gratuitous]

14. Greeting cards can be expensive

I've seen 'em cost four or five dollars. I hope Sen. Cruz makes 100% sure that the rapist gets full visitation rights, just to teach that slutty-slut-slut who got herself pregnant a good lesson about walking around in public (or her home) with her vagina.

Have I mentioned lately just how much I loathe these people?

[ScreamingMeemie]

32. I mrean, really. She should have just shut that down with those ways

we have to do that. Just ask Todd Akin...

[AxionExcel]

11. They should implant the fetus in the Republican sperm donor who is...

...trying to skip out on responsibility, as usual. Implant a genetically-mutant patented corporate womb-like structure, and make him carry the fetus to term, and then raise it on up to age 18. Now that I could support.

[KamaAina]

12. That's not as farfetched as you might think

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027640868

[Solly Mack]

15. Fuck Crooze and anyone else that thinks that way.

Cruel, vicious assholes all. Demented and warped, lacking all compassion and any understanding of what rape does to a woman.

They'll force a woman to endure the pain and suffering of carrying the fetus of a sexual predator but they won't fund the medical care, or the psychological care, or feed the child or pay for childcare or pay any of the bills of the actual victim - the woman.

I fucking hate all so called "pro-lifers".

No exception. ALL of them.

[smirkymonkey]

25. This x 1,000!

[Solly Mack]

64. Thank you, smirkymonkey

[LuckyLib]

36. It is such a profound deep-seated hatred of women (and they will deny it) that

this needs to be pointed out in every interview with these cretins.

[Solly Mack]

62. I agree. It's pure hate and it needs to be addressed each time they open their mouths.

[lmtiwari29]

67. 👍

👍

[CaliforniaPeggy]

68. Welcome to DU, Imtiwari29!

Did you mean this symbol? ----->

[KamaAina]

81. Don't think you can get that one in a headline

I have no idea how s/he got that one in there!

[renate]

78. welcome to DU!

[Solly Mack]

112. Welcome to DU! Been away for a bit - sorry for the delay in welcoming you.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

88. ^

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[Ohio Joe]

19. He is as much a monster as a rapist

Fucker.

[blue neen]

33. Yes.

Exactly.

[Hekate]

20. How many children do he and his wife have, and why do they not have one every year? MYOB, you say?

Too personal a question, you say?

Well, that's pretty much how I feel about women's reproductive health care decisions.

I hate Ted Slime and his ilk.

[napkinz]

22. and let's not forget Ted Cruz at the KILL THE GAYS rally!

[HughLefty1]

23. He is a disgusting creep...

How on earth could anybody vote for this person?

[4Q2u2]

27. Just what we need

Another Bible Thumping idiot from Texas, because the last one worked out so well.

This man went the Texas Supreme Court to keep a man in prison, even after it was know that there was a sentencing error and the man spent too many years in prison.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/12/opinion/the-brutalism-of-ted-cruz.html?_r=0

[Land of Enchantment]

28. Good Lord. Yet another digit talking about women's rights. nt

[vkkv]

38. A fetus is NOT a CHILD OR A BABY. Got that? Things you will NEVER hear:

Hey Ted,
A fetus is NOT a CHILD OR A BABY. Got that?

Things you will NEVER hear:

Coming to our fetus shower?

What are you going to name the fetus?

"Hey there, fetus doll, let's go have a drink".

We're going shopping for a new fetus stroller.

Could you pick up some fetus powder while you're out?

Fetus elephants are the cutest!

He's just now losing his fetus teeth.

(singing) Fetus, Fetus, where did our love go? ooooOOOooo

(singing) OOoo Fetus I love your way.. wanna be with night and day..

(singing) Fetus come back, any kind of fool could see

(The Nuge "singing&quot Hey Fetus, tell me why you're hangin' 'round Ain't got time for kissin' I'm too busy messin' in this town.

(singing) I want my Fetus Back, Fetus Back, Fetus Back Ribs..

(singing) And kick them nasty thoughts, Fetus got back!

[KamaAina]

39. What Ever Happened To Fetus Jane?

[handmade34]

57. "A fetus is NOT a CHILD"

had a discussion once explaining to a "pro-lifer" that it is only a baby if the parents want it... it is a 'baby', a dream, a desire, an anticipated child... when the pregnancy is not wanted... it is not a baby... it is a parasite, a dilemma...

this person did not understand... my thoughts? only child bearing age women should be allowed to make decisions about abortions

[MurrayDelph]

65. If I may make an analogy

This is not a cake:




If it is properly treated, it CAN become a cake, but at the moment it is not one.

[handmade34]

66. not bad...

[FailureToCommunicate]

98. Republicans: Save the cake! (We don't really care what happens to the baker)

Or the cake for that matter, once it's a year or so old.

[MurrayDelph]

100. Yeah, we don't really care about the cake once it's baked

Leave it out in the rain for all we care.

[jberryhill]

101. As long as it isn't used at a gay wedding

[es35]

75. abortion is simply preventing babies from forming - not killing them

abortion is simply preventing babies from forming - not killing them

[vkkv]

77. You're singing to the choir here! Please tell the GOP that.. eom

[AgadorSparticus]

40. I love it.....when he opens his mouth and vile shit like this comes out.

I hope he keeps talking.

[pressbox69]

42. Need any more reason

to vote blue?

[rladdi]

43. Plus Ted Cruz supports and has support from radical religious groups that say the bible

said gays should be killed. Cruz has actually attended some of these conferences. But Cruz is silent on these issues when he gives speeches.

[AtheistCrusader]

46. I'll just drop this here.

States where a rape victim can sue the rapist for child support? ZERO



Fuck you, Ted.

[Shrike47]

60. The statement that the rapist cannot be sued for child support is untrue in Oregon.

I used to represent the Oregon Division of Child Support. Believe me, we can (and do) sue anybody for child support. You can deny paternity and submit to DNA testing if you want, but you cannot avoid the process.

[AtheistCrusader]

63. Interesting. I will have to better fact check that claim.

If that's true of Oregon, it's likely true of other states. I am embarrassed to admit I got it from a facebook meme and didn't fact check it.

[unapatriciated]

94. Even is the states where you can sue

for child support, you run the risk of the rapist getting visitation rights.

[dsc]

95. there is no way that you are unable (legally) to sue for child support

now as a practical matter one may not want to for good reason in the case of a pregnancy resulting from rape but there is no forbidding of such suits. I would imagine that suing for support in the 34 states where parental rights can be asserted would tend to be a problem given that the father might turn around and assert visitation rights. I think in cases where there is a conviction the rights should be terminated and in other cases there should be a hearing and if there is clear and convincing evidence of rape the rights should be terminated.

[jonks2746]

47. What an inhuman monster

Just like the other GOP candidates.

[MrScorpio]

48. The Party of Rape Strikes Again nt

[salinsky]

49. Taliban Ted ...

[DhhD]

50. Ted Cruz is not for providing any social net to children after their birth.

[Ilsa]

51. Every time I read this headline, this is what I equate it with:

Ted Cruz Tells Megyn Kelly He Would Force Rape Victims To Carry His Baby

It's frequently the control freaks that rape and dominate like this.

[B Calm]

53. He's definitely is going for the religiously insane voters who agree with him.

[DhhD]

104. Ted's Fatwa is in opposition the use of Bitterwater, as is written in the Bible.

[Warren DeMontague]

58. Im gonna agree with the people here saying it is good he is being honest

A lot of the anti-choice people try and soft-pedal the more extreme real-world implications of the ideological line they push.

Trump and Cruz are doing the voters a favor by kicking over the rock and exposing what really wriggles underneath.

[PatrynXX]

69. well I'd carry a different tactic

If the Government forces the mother to carry the child. It should be willing to PAY for that. Pay for adoption, pay for whatever she needs for 9 months pay her benefits the rest of her life for leaving a scar on her. If not he has nothing to stand on.

[SunSeeker]

71. K & R for exposure. nt

[trusty elf]

73. ....

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[KamaAina]

79. Cannot be unseen!

[es35]

74. Cruz selling us and our children slavery with his god myth

Cruz is a bunko salesman who is using his God myth to sell us and our children slavery.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

80. Not only that - it's NOT a baby!!

[Fritz Walter]

83. I must apologize

To the spirit of Al Lewis

For some time now, I have referred to this Repuke as a reincarnation of Al Lewis. That has been a disservice to the memory of a fine actor.
Cruz couldn't be a festering boil on Mr. Lewis' ass on his best day.
We must do everything we can to send this abomination back to Texas (I'd recommend sending him back to his birthplace in Canada, but I think too highly of our neighbors to the North.)

[niyad]

84. turd cruz, and each and every one of his supporters, male and female, are woman-hating

filth.

this dominionist bastard frightens me more than the hairpiece. there is almost nothing more dangerous than a person who believes that his/her religious beliefs entitle him/her to rule everyone else.

[mdbl]

85. Cruz is a nut case

and why is he running for president of the US when he isn't a natural born citizen? Who are the idiots that approved his candidacy? Do repugs ever follow the law or the constitution?

[scottie10]

86. Crazy world

A thought occurred to me when I saw this blog: This makes about as much sense as saying the victim would have to marry the perpetrator. I can see some of the far right crazy preachers promoting this. Crazy world.

[TNNurse]

89. Did he speak to the right of the victim

even once??? He cares not about the woman....just the unborn. What a horrible human being and I am not really sure about that human part.

[TNNurse]

90. I am not a violent person

but you should not let me near him with rotten fruits and vegetables.

[Shoulders of Giants]

91. This is actually a better position than having exceptions for rape.

At the very least, it makes the test for access to abortion have to do with the viability of the fetus, not the moral purity of the mother. If abortion really is murder, than it shouldn't matter if the fetus is the product of rape or not, it would still be murder. Rape exceptions are a get out free jail card that allows anti abortion folks to force themselves on women, without it seeming too "icky." They are also completely internally inconsistent, unless the goal of the anti abortion movement isn't to save fetuses, but to have government enforced slut shaming. If they truly want to save fetuses, and not punish women for having consensual sex, then whether the woman was raped or not shouldn't change the legal code in regards to abortion access in any way.

[downeastdaniel]

93. Oh Teddy, thanks for making it crystal clear where you stand with Abortion, this should

Help a whole lot in the GE if you get the GOP nod, we will never let you live this down.

[kevink077]

96. This guy is such scum

I really hope he is the nominee, He will sink the entire Republican Party.

[King_Klonopin]

97. Of all the anti-abortion stances taken by the GOP, this one is the most vile and creepy. nt

[houston16revival]

99. Never Thought

I'd see the Right-to-Life core ideology so incredibly exposed

They've become more extreme

'cut taxes' has become 'tax cuts for the rich'

anti-abortion morphed to right to life and now save rapist's babies

They're on a freight train they cannot stop or steer

That's what ideology does to you

[PatrickforO]

102. Old Lyin' Ted. Except he's not lying here.

He gets in office with a Republican majority and we can kiss women's reproductive rights, rights to equal wage, family leave and anything else that smacks of being friendly to women goodbye.

In the meantime, I wonder what some of the people at Fox 'news' are thinking now, as they are the ones who brought this on the Republican party. Yep. We just HAD to have a Republican 'news' outlet...

[lunatica]

105. He obviously knows the woman is at fault when she's raped

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

106. It's those darned provocative clothes they wear

Maybe this would be appropriate in Taliban Ted's mind:

[kairos12]

109. This view alone will cost him the election.

[Oixi1993]

110. Newbie

I am a GOP defector. This is my first post (actually posted this same thing on another thread). I believe in Democracy and see Sanders as the only chance to restore it. I did not come to this conclusion lightly. I have watched hours of Sanders talks, speeches, and rallies. I agree with him more and more. I am getting massive heat from my conservative family and friends who support Cruz. I see through Cruz and have given them some arguments but I thought this might be the place to come to get the strongest arguments against him.

I am not a troll or someone who will cause any trouble. I know you would likely be suspicious of a new defector as I would be but I am for real. I have not been this excited about a candidate since 1980. I know I know....lol. Just being honest.

Thanks and look forward to being a good member here.

[KamaAina]

111. Welcome to DU!

If Hillary and Elizabeth Warren can convert, why can't you?