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Eugene

(61,900 posts)
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 08:03 PM Apr 2016

Ted Cruz helped defend Texas ban against sale of sex toys in 2007

Source: The Guardian

Ted Cruz helped defend Texas ban against sale of sex toys in 2007

As solicitor general, Cruz’s office had argued in case that using sex toys
was akin to ‘hiring a prostitute’ and masturbation was not covered by the
right to privacy


Megan Carpentier in New York
Wednesday 13 April 2016 21.16 BST

On the campaign trail, Ted Cruz portrays himself as a “constitutional conservative” who is committed to preserving Americans’ (largely unthreatened) right to religious freedom and access to the guns of their choosing. He is, he tells his audiences, interested in limiting the reach of the federal government into their lives, and often explicitly promises to limit the power of the federal government in various ways.

But in 2007, when he was solicitor general of the state of Texas, Cruz took a slightly more expansive view of the appropriate role of the federal government, when he participated in a federal court case in an effort to maintain Texas’s ban on the sale of sex toys.

In that case, highlighted by Mother Jones, two sex toy companies sued to render moot the state’s ban on the sale of so-called “marital aids” – as they are often called in conservative circles. The state’s counterarguments, penned in part by the office run by Cruz, were that the use of sex toys was akin to “hiring a willing prostitute or engaging in consensual bigamy”, and there is a state interest in “discouraging prurient interests in autonomous sex and the pursuit of sexual gratification unrelated to procreation”.

The state – and Cruz – further argued that the sale of sex toys in the state of Texas was not an interference with the right to privacy for one’s sexual activity as established by the US supreme court in Lawrence v Texas, which threw out state bans on consensual same-sex acts of physical intimacy. The US supreme court found that there was no compelling state interest in interfering in the sexual lives of consenting adults, citing the privacy protections of the 14th amendment of the US constitution.

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Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/13/ted-cruz-texas-ban-sex-toys-case-2007
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branford

(4,462 posts)
1. Ted Cruz was doing his job as Solicitor General of Texas.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 08:12 PM
Apr 2016

It was little different than the time Hillary represented the alleged child rapist or Debo Adegbile, President Obama’s former choice to head the Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division, represented the individual convicted of the 1981 murder of a police officer in Philadelphia.

Attorneys often have certain obligations as officers of the court and/or elected representative. In fact, Cruz's representation in this instance due to his elected position was far less discretionary than that of either Clinton or Adegbile.

There are more ample legitimate reasons to criticize Cruz besides this foolish and misleading story, and worse, it risks again raising Clintons unpopular and politically damaging representation of the child rapist.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2015/04/hillary_clinton_defended_an_alleged_rapists_feminist_lawyers_are_right_to.html

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/senate-rejects-obamas-nominee-civil-rights

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
7. HRC blamed a child for her own rape even though she knew her client was guilty
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 12:25 AM
Apr 2016

“I have been informed that the complainant is emotionally unstable with a tendency to seek out older men and engage in fantasizing,”

“I have also been informed that she has in the past made false accusations about persons, claiming they had attacked her body. Also that she exhibits an unusual stubbornness and temper when she does not get her way.”

"children in early adolescence tend to exaggerate or romanticize sexual experiences and that adolescents with disorganized families, such as the complainant, are even more prone to such behavior."

-- Hillary D. Rodham
http://www.scribd.com/doc/229667084/State-of-Arkansas-V-Thomas-Alfred-Taylor
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/06/20/exclusive-hillary-clinton-took-me-through-hell-rape-victim-says.html

She also laughed about the defendant's guilt on audio tape and bragged about how she got him off with time served with a plea down to a fondling charge. The child victim was a virgin prior to the attack and spent 5 days in a coma, months recovering, and 10 years in therapy.

So yeah, to this day HRC claims she was just doing her job, but she also said she was shot at by snipers in Bosnia. In both cases reality is quite far afield.

Shrike47

(6,913 posts)
8. Yah, yah, yah. She should have violated her ethical obligations and railroaded her client. Not.
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 01:41 AM
Apr 2016

Being a lawyer just isn't like that and if she had acted like you apparently want, she could have been disbarred.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
9. On what planet does "ethical obligations" include blaming a 12 yr old for her own violent rape?
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 02:33 AM
Apr 2016


But yah, yah, yah, I get the fanbase worship that requires defense of HRC no matter how egregious the behavior is, but this one kinda takes the cake. The "I was just doing my job" excuse is utterly pathetic. No lawyer is required to savage any victim of a violent crime as an "ethical obligation" let alone a 12 year old child who was raped so violently by a 41 yr old man she almost didn't survive. If that excuse held any water we would also have to excuse the RCC cardinals and bishops who also blamed children for their own rape, because after all they were just 'doing their job' of defending the church and fulfilling their "ethical obligations".

Sorry, this just doesn't pass the smell test. Any lawyer or any other adult for that mater who blames a child for their own rape is a shitstain on humanity.

Peregrine

(992 posts)
2. But can his argument be used for gun control?
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 08:47 PM
Apr 2016

Cruz argued that possession was not illegal, thus not violating the constitution. But it was constitutionally okay to ban the sale.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
3. "freedom of religion" is codespeak for we get to impose our dogma on you
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 09:56 PM
Apr 2016

Which is the polar opposite of "freedom".

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
5. What a POS Cruz is, no wonder he is almost universally hated by living things.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 09:58 PM
Apr 2016

What a POS solicitor general, anyone that would support Cruz or defend him is a POS too.

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