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JEB

(4,748 posts)
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 01:24 PM Apr 2016

$1,400,000,000,000: Oxfam Exposes the Great Offshore Tax Scam of US Companies

Last edited Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:06 PM - Edit history (3)

"We can't go on with a situation where the rich and powerful are not paying their fair share of tax, leaving the rest of us to foot the bill."
by
Andrea Germanos, staff writer

http://www.commondreams.org/news/2016/04/14/1400000000-oxfam-exposes-great-offshore-tax-scam-us-companies

Using an "opaque and secretive network" of subsidiaries in tax havens, top American corporations have stashed $1.4 trillion offshore, a new report from Oxfam shows.

With "a range of tricks, tools, and loopholes," for tax avoidance, the 50 largest U.S. companies, including well-known names like Goldman Sachs, Verizon Communications, Apple, Coca-Cola, IBM, and Chevron, raked in $4 trillion in profits globally between 2008 and 2014, are contributing to inequality, the anti-poverty group said.

The report, Broken at the Top (pdf), states that such tax dodging is one of the "profit-making strategies of many multinational corporations."

As noted in the report,

From 2008 – 2014 the 50 largest U.S. companies collectively received $27 in federal loans, loan guarantees and bailouts for every $1 they paid in federal taxes.
From 2008 – 2014 these 50 companies spent approximately $2.6 billion on lobbying while receiving nearly $11.2 trillion in federal loans, loan guarantees and bailouts.

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Oxfam spells it out, plain and simple. Give it a thoughtful read.

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$1,400,000,000,000: Oxfam Exposes the Great Offshore Tax Scam of US Companies (Original Post) JEB Apr 2016 OP
k&r tk2kewl Apr 2016 #1
Have Oxfam investigate the Clinton Family Foundation next Divernan Apr 2016 #44
Putting it starkly: no_hypocrisy Apr 2016 #2
They want it all. Let us peons eat cake. JEB Apr 2016 #4
They really don't think that we will rise up WHEN CRABS ROAR Apr 2016 #36
And Politicians on BOTH sides that are funded by them Ferd Berfel Apr 2016 #22
Goldman Sachs. Hmmm? Now where have I heard that name before? AxionExcel Apr 2016 #3
Your headline and the subject differ by three zeroes (1.4B vs. 1.4T). LonePirate Apr 2016 #5
Thanks for heads up. I copy and pasted from Common Dreams website. JEB Apr 2016 #6
Actually I think the number is correct. JEB Apr 2016 #9
Finally got my head straight and added the three missing zeros. JEB Apr 2016 #37
Tell me if i'm wrong. Delmette Apr 2016 #7
You are wrong. All of that would be evil. And we don't stand for such evil here in America. tclambert Apr 2016 #8
Ok, thank you. Delmette Apr 2016 #10
I was talking to an acquaintance who teaches History in Junior High tclambert Apr 2016 #12
I took some college classes in '89. Delmette Apr 2016 #15
The US subsidiary can lobby, the foreign parent can't bigbrother05 Apr 2016 #18
Lemmee see now.... Plucketeer Apr 2016 #11
I hope both candidates see this before tonight's debate malaise Apr 2016 #13
given all of her flips and triangulations Ferd Berfel Apr 2016 #23
No credibility. Enthusiast Apr 2016 #25
yea, and that too Ferd Berfel Apr 2016 #27
Interesting contrast between the two candidates . . . sus453 Apr 2016 #31
You don't have enough zeros. You are showing billions, not trillions. TryLogic Apr 2016 #14
Thanks, think I finally got it right. JEB Apr 2016 #38
Don't worry. Hillary will fix it so no one gets caught anymore. Phlem Apr 2016 #16
Don't you remember. .. she told them to cut it out. libdem4life Apr 2016 #30
KICK glinda Apr 2016 #17
"With "a range of tricks, tools, and loopholes," In other words "The Policies of the People You jtuck004 Apr 2016 #19
''Did the statute of limitations expire, again? Drat!'' -- Erik H. of New Rochelle Octafish Apr 2016 #20
I would K&R this reply if I could! ms liberty Apr 2016 #21
The question is which of the scumbags menioned are fronts for malaise Apr 2016 #24
Thanks for the post and link. Very informative JEB Apr 2016 #29
that should be 1.4 trillion ArcticFox Apr 2016 #26
Fixed it. Thanks. JEB Apr 2016 #39
This is just from one method/facet, of the hidden economy. Many times this has been siphoned newthinking Apr 2016 #28
K&R Myrina Apr 2016 #32
Thieves! Dont call me Shirley Apr 2016 #33
1,400,000,000,000 GeorgeGist Apr 2016 #34
Correct! ozone_man Apr 2016 #35
Got it right now. Holy cow, that is a lot of money. JEB Apr 2016 #40
K&R!!!! burrowowl Apr 2016 #41
Then they have the gall to call themselves American companies!!!! Major Hogwash Apr 2016 #42
can we bring back guillotines now? pansypoo53219 Apr 2016 #43
Until we eliminate the loopholes They_Live Apr 2016 #45
Anyone else notice the lack of Clinton supporters when we talk about financial crimes? rhett o rick Apr 2016 #46
The productive force (Labor) again pays the bill. Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2016 #47

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
44. Have Oxfam investigate the Clinton Family Foundation next
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 09:53 AM
Apr 2016

and all it's triangulated, convoluted dealings/money launderings with foreign governments, corporations and the U. S. State Department. It's like that carnie/grifter game with the 3 walnut shells and the pea.

no_hypocrisy

(46,130 posts)
2. Putting it starkly:
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 01:31 PM
Apr 2016

We are on the cusp of losing Medicaid, Medicare, and Social Security because 1% of the citizens and their businesses are hiding assets and not paying their fair share. They are bankrupting the country.

 

JEB

(4,748 posts)
9. Actually I think the number is correct.
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 02:21 PM
Apr 2016

1.4 trillion is 1 trillion four hundred billion. Lots of zeros to keep track of either way.

Delmette

(522 posts)
7. Tell me if i'm wrong.
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 02:15 PM
Apr 2016

A U. S. Corporation moves to a foreign country to avoid U.S. taxes. They are not required to pay off current loans to the U.S. government and they are qualified for other U.S. government loans and bailouts. Also, as a now foreign corporation they are allowed to lobby the U.S. Congress.

Tell me if I'm wrong, please.



tclambert

(11,087 posts)
12. I was talking to an acquaintance who teaches History in Junior High
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 02:42 PM
Apr 2016

and I told him I could remember when in American History and in Civics class they would tell us proudly that in America "no one is above the law."

He said, "Yeah, we don't teach that anymore. It's not in any of the textbooks I've seen. Not since Ford pardoned Nixon."

Delmette

(522 posts)
15. I took some college classes in '89.
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 02:58 PM
Apr 2016

One was an Economics class and there was a question on the ethics of selling your property or business to a foreign entity if they offered more than the asking price.
At 36 years old I was the "old lady". Most of the kids thought it would be alright. I was the only one who thought it would be wrong to sell out the community like that.

bigbrother05

(5,995 posts)
18. The US subsidiary can lobby, the foreign parent can't
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 03:04 PM
Apr 2016

Nissan USA can lobby, not Nissan Japan.

It's the same loophole Halliburton used to do business with Iraq/Iran/etc. despite sanctions.

The parent doesn't control the child?

malaise

(269,057 posts)
13. I hope both candidates see this before tonight's debate
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 02:44 PM
Apr 2016

This will not help the beneficiary of that Verizon check valued at $225,000 for a speech.

Ferd Berfel

(3,687 posts)
23. given all of her flips and triangulations
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 04:04 PM
Apr 2016

I don't understand why anyone would believe her if she said she was, all of a sudden, FOR breaking this up.

especially in light of her double secret hidden speeches to them

sus453

(164 posts)
31. Interesting contrast between the two candidates . . .
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 07:36 PM
Apr 2016

One is walking on the picket line with strikers who are trying to keep from losing their pay and benefits, and the other is taking a quarter of a million dollars for a pep talk to that company's CEO.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
30. Don't you remember. .. she told them to cut it out.
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 06:14 PM
Apr 2016

And they just pay her whatever they want to. Sheesh...picky picky

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
19. "With "a range of tricks, tools, and loopholes," In other words "The Policies of the People You
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 03:16 PM
Apr 2016

Voted For"...

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
20. ''Did the statute of limitations expire, again? Drat!'' -- Erik H. of New Rochelle
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 03:33 PM
Apr 2016

Thank you for a great article, JEB. You might want to know the technology exists to tax those offshore the offspring of dogs who own those tax dodging corporate entities.



Tax Offshore Wealth Sitting In First World Banks

James S. Henry
07.01.10, 09:00 AM EDT
Forbes Magazine dated July 19, 2010

Let's tax offshore private wealth.

How can we get the world's wealthiest scoundrels--arms dealers, dictators, drug barons, tax evaders--to help us pay for the soaring costs of deficits, disaster relief, climate change and development? Simple: Levy a modest withholding tax on untaxed private offshore loot.

Many aboveground economies around the world are struggling, but the economic underground is booming. By my estimate, there is $15 trillion to $20 trillion in private wealth sitting offshore in bank accounts, brokerage accounts and hedge fund portfolios, completely untaxed.

SNIP...

This wealth is concentrated. Nearly half of it is owned by 91,000 people--0.001% of the world's population. Ninety-five percent is owned by the planet's wealthiest 10 million people.

SNIP...

Is it feasible? Yes. The majority of offshore wealth is managed by 50 banks. As of September 2009 these banks accounted for $10.8 trillion of offshore assets--72% of the industry's total. The busiest 10 of them manage 40%.

CONTINUED....

http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2010/0719/opinions-taxation-tax-havens-banking-on-my-mind.html



Which might be a more fair way of doing fiscal policy, IMHO.

newthinking

(3,982 posts)
28. This is just from one method/facet, of the hidden economy. Many times this has been siphoned
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 04:39 PM
Apr 2016

and hidden from view. We are still only scratching the surface.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
42. Then they have the gall to call themselves American companies!!!!
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 02:14 AM
Apr 2016

I remember a time in Amerika when corporations were afraid to take their factories offshore because of the perception of it being foreign-made junk.
But now, they not only send our jobs overseas, they stash their cash in banks located offshore, as well, too.

Yet, Congress looks the other way.

The status quo . . it will kill America's form of democracy.
For without taxes, no public programs can be funded properly.
No road building programs, no bridge repair programs, no food stamp programs, no Social Security programs, no Medicare programs, no Medicaid programs, no federal programs of any kind can be funded properly simply because of these loopholes and accounting tricks!

And the Democrats in Congress went along with it!!


They_Live

(3,236 posts)
45. Until we eliminate the loopholes
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 10:21 AM
Apr 2016

and actually make this crap illegal, it will continue, and those it is designed for(and by) will continue to take advantage of the rewards for their business.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
46. Anyone else notice the lack of Clinton supporters when we talk about financial crimes?
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 10:22 AM
Apr 2016

Do they favor the crimes of the Rich And Powerful, or do they want to pretend they aren't really happening?

I noticed that threads that discuss the protests don't ever get Clinton supporter comments. If they ever do enter a thread that discusses the excesses of the Rich and Powerful, it's to defend them. They are clearly on the wrong side of this class war.

Fantastic Anarchist

(7,309 posts)
47. The productive force (Labor) again pays the bill.
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 11:50 AM
Apr 2016

We produce, they take and offshore our surplus value. What's worse, is that money is not being reinvested into our economy, and towards infrastructure. We are literally funding a one trillion dollar trust. Literally socializing the cost and privatizing the profit, none of which we'll ever see again.

Global capitalism, ladies and gentlemen, brought to you by neo-liberals, who just expanded upon Trotsky's global socialism, and over-powered Labor to the punch.

When will we rise up? We have the numbers.

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