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trumad

(41,692 posts)
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 03:31 PM Apr 2016

Been a while since I last visited Free Republic. Just got back and wow!

Can you believe they are still discussing Bill Clintons affair almost 20 years ago.

There is one thing that is certain about stupid ass freepers.... They will climb into the gutter any chance they can to go after a Democrat.

I am so glad that we Democrats are above that...aren't you!

Fucking asshole Freepers!

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Been a while since I last visited Free Republic. Just got back and wow! (Original Post) trumad Apr 2016 OP
So glad Democrats are always above character assassination, and only stick to issues! villager Apr 2016 #1
Yep...you'd never see that on GD. trumad Apr 2016 #3
Never. DU is a paradigm of thoughtful, well-considered discussion. villager Apr 2016 #4
Lol LaurenG Apr 2016 #56
+1000 Laurian Apr 2016 #6
inappropriate sexual conduct should be swept under the rug much faster SoLeftIAmRight Apr 2016 #92
hey Trumad, did you catch that one guy? Scootaloo Apr 2016 #16
:spray: BeanMusical Apr 2016 #43
Me too! passiveporcupine Apr 2016 #66
And me! JDPriestly Apr 2016 #96
Yeah I know who your talking about. trumad Apr 2016 #70
I agree with everything you said before the ellipsis. BeanMusical Apr 2016 #73
+1. Spot-on. (N/T) Old Crow Apr 2016 #94
I see what you did there ... lol Hiraeth Apr 2016 #104
"fixated on Monica" ? keithbvadu2 Apr 2016 #64
Those worthless assholes also seem fixated on Bernie's Vatican visit and his taxes. Loudestlib Apr 2016 #129
Freepers... hotdamn00 Apr 2016 #30
Putin is an Authoritarian and the Pope is Catholic which is almost Mormon, in FR book. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2016 #45
BERNIE SANDERS supporters are still discussing this subject. trueblue2007 Apr 2016 #33
What? No. MillennialDem Apr 2016 #58
Lol. Of course. Hortensis Apr 2016 #122
This was alerted on, 0-7. betsuni Apr 2016 #136
Just looking at JimBob's website is like time travelling. lpbk2713 Apr 2016 #2
LOL! eom UtahLib Apr 2016 #5
I'm always struck by how similar the posts at the two sites are. Donald Ian Rankin Apr 2016 #7
Wow? Wild! I was looking over there too! Scootaloo Apr 2016 #8
Fumesucker Apr 2016 #11
Sounds like your typical republican . Not real surprising. Elmer S. E. Dump Apr 2016 #34
Lol, stop it, you're killing me! BeanMusical Apr 2016 #49
Jesus! hellofromreddit Apr 2016 #79
Touché AlbertCat Apr 2016 #112
That sounds spot on. Went and looked at the freeper group. Yep, you got it down pat. Rex Apr 2016 #113
I'm just glad they are all penned up over there. onehandle Apr 2016 #9
Yeah. I'm glad we are above that. 4now Apr 2016 #10
stillmad pintobean Apr 2016 #12
Cuz Freepers shadowmayor Apr 2016 #13
Are they still using 90s-era boards? sakabatou Apr 2016 #14
Did you shower afterwards?? ailsagirl Apr 2016 #15
And yet I see people posting the same sort of sleaze here anigbrowl Apr 2016 #17
Um... Hissyspit Apr 2016 #19
If you have something to say, say it anigbrowl Apr 2016 #20
Just that Hissyspit Apr 2016 #21
Obviously it went over a lot of people's heads. BeanMusical Apr 2016 #51
Provide some links, I think you are making shit up. nt Logical Apr 2016 #25
I await your apology anigbrowl Apr 2016 #26
+ 1 JoePhilly Apr 2016 #52
+2, 3, 4 & 5 Loki Apr 2016 #109
Clinton Derangement Syndrome means never having to say you're sorry Hekate Apr 2016 #117
Yes. Their attacks on Bernie Sanders and the Pope are so absurd. Hissyspit Apr 2016 #18
And their thinly veiled antisemitism is totally repulsive. BeanMusical Apr 2016 #59
K&R mcar Apr 2016 #22
some people just to remove their heads from their rectums dlwickham Apr 2016 #23
Never understood ignore, a message board makes people so upset they can't read posts? weird. nt Logical Apr 2016 #29
You shouldn't go over there. There could be long term side effects we don't know about. Rex Apr 2016 #24
Which way is their shanty leaning, Trump or Cruz? Brother Buzz Apr 2016 #27
More TheRump than Cruzer, but badly polarized Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2016 #69
Most excellent report! Brother Buzz Apr 2016 #72
Took one for the team, you did! lindysalsagal Apr 2016 #89
Thank gawd for DU. OilemFirchen Apr 2016 #28
Other times it smells like a pitbull at the Olive Garden. Rex Apr 2016 #32
We have a Lewinski thread and an Anita Hill thread active at DU at present. n/t Gore1FL Apr 2016 #31
God forbid we talk about nita Hill, I guess...? Scootaloo Apr 2016 #40
Well, we're expected to become fans of JoeyT Apr 2016 #57
The criticism is that it is old news. 1992 is older than the Lewinski news. Gore1FL Apr 2016 #80
The Clintons inspire tidal-wave strong feelings among the other side. If we nominate Hillary, they w Vote2016 Apr 2016 #35
Give me some of that shit. trumad Apr 2016 #39
Yes... yallerdawg Apr 2016 #46
Uh no. The ticket will be Clinton/Castro leftofcool Apr 2016 #41
I love that you think Hillary will pick someone to her left like Castro. If we fuck up and nominate Vote2016 Apr 2016 #42
Wanna bet? nt arely staircase Apr 2016 #106
I actually think she might pick Representative Xavier Becerra of California. (eom) StevieM Apr 2016 #83
I see what you did there. LOL SunSeeker Apr 2016 #36
Yes, called out Sanders supporters, but not Clinton supporters who are guilty of the same behavior. Hissyspit Apr 2016 #61
Yup. +1 BeanMusical Apr 2016 #68
Bless their little hearts. arikara Apr 2016 #82
beat me to it. mopinko Apr 2016 #101
LOL Lucinda Apr 2016 #37
Are all freepers actually freepers or are some.... chknltl Apr 2016 #38
Well there's that guy named AnimalDude or something that is in fact BeanMusical Apr 2016 #65
Nailed it! NurseJackie Apr 2016 #44
It's not a political spectrum anymore. yallerdawg Apr 2016 #47
That still a circular spectrum, essentially linear, one dimensional. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2016 #60
Pretty declarative statement. It's horseshit, of course, but I like the way you delivered it as if DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2016 #111
The top portion is right on - LOL Iliyah Apr 2016 #131
Why tf would you visit that site? liberalnarb Apr 2016 #48
1) Understanding half the country's mindset, 2) Entertainment Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2016 #74
I don't know why you're surprised, just yesterday I saw someone here on DU talking about it! George II Apr 2016 #50
this should be no surprise nor should it be ignored by DU hollysmom Apr 2016 #53
Sadly, the topic has been exploited to prevent Hillary from becoming a candidate. beastie boy Apr 2016 #67
and we should all have expected it inthe GE if Hillary is a candidate hollysmom Apr 2016 #78
You could have seen that right here on DU liberal N proud Apr 2016 #54
I agree. That group named after a famous mountaineer is more toxic than plutonium. BeanMusical Apr 2016 #71
I like the avatar too.. one_voice Apr 2016 #121
Indeed but unfortunately, like other beautiful symbols BeanMusical Apr 2016 #127
Yeah. BtA and I are good friends... one_voice Apr 2016 #130
"Anyone that wants to insinuate 'Nazism'..well I will speak up." BeanMusical Apr 2016 #132
What makes you think I haven't replied? one_voice Apr 2016 #133
Do they like Trump or Cruz? oberliner Apr 2016 #55
More Hair Drumpführer than Cruzer. See post 69 this thread Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2016 #76
Bill Clinton's penis (and the shit he took for it) makes him a winner with independents. McCamy Taylor Apr 2016 #62
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. BeanMusical Apr 2016 #75
? not in MY neck of the woods. Hiraeth Apr 2016 #105
Toxic sludge Maru Kitteh Apr 2016 #63
Hillary Supporters have been trashing on Monica all over Twitter today FreakinDJ Apr 2016 #77
you mean Klintoon Enrique Apr 2016 #81
A month ago someone here used "Slick Willie". EllieBC Apr 2016 #84
Nah---DU has trolls pretending to be Bernie supporters trumad Apr 2016 #87
Posts like your OP arely staircase Apr 2016 #108
When he shows up at a voting precinct with a bullhorn JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2016 #88
Except none of it happened that way. Thanks for proving the point. Hekate Apr 2016 #118
That site is a cesspit robertgodardfromnj Apr 2016 #85
Wait til November 5 It's going to be like Jonestown over there They are completely unprepared for Monk06 Apr 2016 #86
I was thinking the other day noamnety Apr 2016 #90
I just checked and they are still all over there. onehandle Apr 2016 #91
I just looked AgerolanAmerican Apr 2016 #102
I shudder at the thought of what we are in for if she would actually win. silvershadow Apr 2016 #93
As opposed to the Republican? trumad Apr 2016 #95
no, as opposed to Bernie. silvershadow Apr 2016 #97
Say it with Me... trumad Apr 2016 #99
I like reminding them that Bush claimed he would bring "honor and integridy" back the the WH. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2016 #98
Hillary is anti-feminist. Bill proved it. maggies farm Apr 2016 #100
Tick Tock. trumad Apr 2016 #107
Apparently maggies farm Apr 2016 #114
I ain't going to work on Maggie's farm no more. kwassa Apr 2016 #125
I no longer slave maggies farm Apr 2016 #134
I feel bad for them. sofa king Apr 2016 #103
Can you believe they are still discussing Bill Clintons affair almost 20 years ago. AlbertCat Apr 2016 #110
I hope you changed shoes when you came back in this house.... Hekate Apr 2016 #115
How about that Popegate nonsense? cui bono Apr 2016 #116
That was only a 10 minute discussion over there. trumad Apr 2016 #120
Trumad, I've told you before that it's no good saying, "Mom, it followed me home." No, dear... Hekate Apr 2016 #119
... La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #123
This OP again? Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #124
Thanks Nightjock Apr 2016 #126
Lol Dem2 Apr 2016 #128
And thank goodness over here we don't see "Shillary" "Killary" "rabid Hilfans" betsuni Apr 2016 #135
Don't forget our new favorite... Hillary ASTRO TURFERS Number23 Apr 2016 #137
Oh yeah, I forgot. betsuni Apr 2016 #138
"We Kick Astroturf!!" And wear it too! Number23 Apr 2016 #139
 

villager

(26,001 posts)
1. So glad Democrats are always above character assassination, and only stick to issues!
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 03:36 PM
Apr 2016

And how exemplary DU has been, by contrast!

 

villager

(26,001 posts)
4. Never. DU is a paradigm of thoughtful, well-considered discussion.
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 03:41 PM
Apr 2016

As it continues to "evolve."

 

SoLeftIAmRight

(4,883 posts)
92. inappropriate sexual conduct should be swept under the rug much faster
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 10:04 AM
Apr 2016

it is hard - to believe - some people think it just goes away

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
16. hey Trumad, did you catch that one guy?
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 04:21 PM
Apr 2016

I can't remember his name, it's kinda like a former president's, Eisenhowie or Cooleridge or the like. Anyway, he has this thigh-slapper of a schtick. you seen this? he come up with inane meta-rants about freeRepublic and how the people there are not pure enough, and disloyal to the party, and otherwise awful subhuman scum, right? Slaps one up every two weeks or so. Now normally RimJob doesn't like that sort of thing, kinda has that 'eleventh commandment" thing going on? But the way reagunner (or whatever) skirts that is kind of genius - I mean, genius for a right-wing lipton-sucker. he just pretends that all the crap he's posting is the findings of forays into Dkos and Huffpo, places like that.

it's weird that anyone really takes Nixodd (really, it's so familiar, I can't place it though!) seriously over there. Not after he admitted how much he enjoys being balls-deep in his neighbor's great dane. Freerepublic is a fucking weird place, wouldn't you agree, Truman, uh, Trumad?

That poor dog.

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
70. Yeah I know who your talking about.
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 06:55 PM
Apr 2016

Dudes a fucking asshole ...but he sure knows how to get under the skin of the other assholes.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,002 posts)
45. Putin is an Authoritarian and the Pope is Catholic which is almost Mormon, in FR book.
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 06:06 PM
Apr 2016

Obviously they love Authoritarians, since they almost each poster exhibit classic RW Authoritarian follower traits. Trump is authoritarian as shown by his being a ruthless businessman ("You're fired&quot and Cruz is a Dominionist (hard christian) authoritarian. FR is more TheRump than Cruzer and is badly split between the two.

Romney is hated for being a mormon, as is mormon Glenn Beck, now that he is on the 'outs'. Everyone they used to love is now on the 'outs' and is considered an evil traitorous tool of the GOPe (GOP elite): Bush I, Bush II, Bush III, Rove, Fox, Hannity, Beck, Ryan, Gingrich, McCain, .... The only ones who have survived are Reagan and Palin. Rush and Coulter get some love and Buchanan seems to still do well with Freepers.

trueblue2007

(17,218 posts)
33. BERNIE SANDERS supporters are still discussing this subject.
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 05:20 PM
Apr 2016

i think they blame Senator/Secretary of State Hillary.

betsuni

(25,528 posts)
136. This was alerted on, 0-7.
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 07:23 PM
Apr 2016

There's no way the alerter kept a straight face when typing this: "Equating Bernie Sanders supporters to Republicans is disgusting and uncalled for." Have any Hillary supporters NOT been called Republicans? I think accusing them of being Reagan lovers is the new insult.

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
7. I'm always struck by how similar the posts at the two sites are.
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 03:54 PM
Apr 2016

The clocks are stuck at different times, but the mind set is depressingly familiar.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
8. Wow? Wild! I was looking over there too!
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 03:55 PM
Apr 2016

The unimaginable amount of jew-hate pouring out of every orifice over there. The really weird thing is that so many of them are trying to woo Black Voters by citing Nation of Islam's "The Secret Relationship" books. Almost verbatim! 'Course I don't think it'll work, with how overtly negrophobic they and their lead candidate are.

And then, oh, oh man, did you see all the overt defense for rape? Like seriously, these guys over there, they think that having a woman in your employ is free reign to demand she get on her knees. How do they live with themselves?

Did you catch any of their anti-papist ranting, the conspiracy theories about the Vatican infiltrating and influencing US elections? it's weird.

And of course, not a one of them can cite a reason why they love their candidate so hard. it all boils down to just hating the other guy, and wanting to see him hurt, destroyed, ruined. it's so weird to watch people polishing their party registration like a badge of morality, work so hard to obliterate nearly half of that same party.

They're a bunch of weirdoes, barely above a violent hate movement. i'm glad I'm not suffering this sightseeing tour alone, Trumad.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
113. That sounds spot on. Went and looked at the freeper group. Yep, you got it down pat.
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 01:44 PM
Apr 2016

I've never seen such vile behavior, it is as if they don't care about winning overall - just as long as their candidate is the winner. What a way to screw over their party! You would think only the dumbest fuckwads in America would be this stupid...oh wait they are all freepers, so it makes sense now.

I'm so glad we here at DU are way above that sort of trollish behavior. That we support the party and will defend whomever is our nominee. Anything else would be nothing more then acting just like freepers...again, thank goodness we are above that juvenile way of thinking.

So happy to be around grown, intelligent adults that are loyal to the party and not their particular pony. People like that are only interested in dividing up Dems and making sure we lose. But that is at other websites, not here.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
9. I'm just glad they are all penned up over there.
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 03:56 PM
Apr 2016

Can you imagine what other sites would be like if they got loose?

 

anigbrowl

(13,889 posts)
17. And yet I see people posting the same sort of sleaze here
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 04:22 PM
Apr 2016

I alerted on such a post in GD-P not half an hour ago.

Hekate

(90,690 posts)
117. Clinton Derangement Syndrome means never having to say you're sorry
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 03:17 PM
Apr 2016

That's why it only happens at Freeperville, and never here.

BeanMusical

(4,389 posts)
59. And their thinly veiled antisemitism is totally repulsive.
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 06:29 PM
Apr 2016

Heck, some of those freepers have pictures of swastikas as avatars.

dlwickham

(3,316 posts)
23. some people just to remove their heads from their rectums
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 04:59 PM
Apr 2016

never have any posters like that on here

oh wait..how many posters do I have on ignore?

 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
29. Never understood ignore, a message board makes people so upset they can't read posts? weird. nt
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 05:10 PM
Apr 2016
 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
24. You shouldn't go over there. There could be long term side effects we don't know about.
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 05:02 PM
Apr 2016

Did you shower in the containment area when you got back? Even a drop from that place can be toxic.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,002 posts)
69. More TheRump than Cruzer, but badly polarized
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 06:52 PM
Apr 2016

Officially, RimJob (Jim Robinson, chief nabob and tin pot dictator) endorses Cruz but would happily vote for Hair Drumpführer.

During 2015 there were many factions, but some people got purged by RimJob, especially the Giuliani supporters since he is viewed as a left-wing pro-abortionist.

The main thesis of FR members is that the Republican party is finished because McConnel and Boehner / Ryan have totally capitulated to Obama's marxist agenda to destroy the USA.

About 65 percent of the site views TheRump as a straight-talking man who is beholden to nobody, who will shake up the GOPe (GOP elite, a favorite term of theirs), run the government like the brilliant businessman he is, rebuild America's devastated military, and put foreign countries in their place (far behind US interests). They see Cruz as a lying whining Cuban-Canadian who cheats, is in bed with Wall Street and is not a real conservative because he gave out gift packages to 'illegals' at the border recently.

The other 35 percent of the site views Cruz as a brilliant constitutionalist who is beholden to nobody (because nobody likes him personally), who will shake up the GOPe and run the government like a christian dominion. They see Trump as a careless whining Democrat who is too stupid to read the rules, donates to all parties and all politicians, and is not a real conservative because he ran casinos and has waffled on guns and abortion.

FR is dull between presidential elections but this cycle has been particularly entertaining as the blindness of them all is hilariously on parade and their habit of cherry-picking tidbits of information is on full display.

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
28. Thank gawd for DU.
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 05:08 PM
Apr 2016

It's like a breath of fresh gluten-free vegan air with a touch of barley and a slight boysenberry aftersniff.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
32. Other times it smells like a pitbull at the Olive Garden.
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 05:11 PM
Apr 2016

Very few times it is like a unicorn at White Castle being served by walking white tigers dressed in blue and gold.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
40. God forbid we talk about nita Hill, I guess...?
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 05:32 PM
Apr 2016

What, did we all become big fans of Clarence Thomas? I may have missed the memo.

JoeyT

(6,785 posts)
57. Well, we're expected to become fans of
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 06:22 PM
Apr 2016

the Iraq war, Henry Kissinger, banks, insurance companies, Wal-Mart, and sweatshops.

So I guess being expected to like Thomas is pretty small potatoes.

Gore1FL

(21,132 posts)
80. The criticism is that it is old news. 1992 is older than the Lewinski news.
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 08:18 PM
Apr 2016

I think your criticism should be directed to the OP.

 

Vote2016

(1,198 posts)
35. The Clintons inspire tidal-wave strong feelings among the other side. If we nominate Hillary, they w
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 05:23 PM
Apr 2016

will break records with their turnout (as will the Greens). Hillary's only hope is if the Republicans nominate Trump (and they know this which is why they won't nominate Trump).

We face no such risk if we nominate Sanders. Why nominate a middle-of-the-road centrist when we have a better chance with a true progressive?

The ticket should be Sanders-Clinton.

 

Vote2016

(1,198 posts)
42. I love that you think Hillary will pick someone to her left like Castro. If we fuck up and nominate
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 05:55 PM
Apr 2016

Hillary, she will pick a white man to her right from a swing state.

Castro is too young, not centrist enough, not from a swing state, and not pale enough to make the "real" short list (but he and Elizabeth Warren will make the phony short list leaked to the press).

Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
61. Yes, called out Sanders supporters, but not Clinton supporters who are guilty of the same behavior.
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 06:33 PM
Apr 2016

chknltl

(10,558 posts)
38. Are all freepers actually freepers or are some....
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 05:31 PM
Apr 2016

....masqueraders? That's what I love about DU, no masqueraders running around here!

BeanMusical

(4,389 posts)
65. Well there's that guy named AnimalDude or something that is in fact
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 06:44 PM
Apr 2016

a huge Bernie supporter and keeps posting pro LGBT rights stuff over there. He has a good cover though, he tries really hard to look more conservative than everybody else (except for the gay rights part) and is kissing RimJob's butt in case he gets caught.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,002 posts)
60. That still a circular spectrum, essentially linear, one dimensional.
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 06:32 PM
Apr 2016

Reality is at least two dimensional: fiscal policy and social policy.

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
111. Pretty declarative statement. It's horseshit, of course, but I like the way you delivered it as if
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 01:36 PM
Apr 2016

it were true.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,002 posts)
74. 1) Understanding half the country's mindset, 2) Entertainment
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 07:06 PM
Apr 2016

Over a decade ago, when I encountered FR, I marveled at how anyone could think the way they do. But instead of simply dismissing RW conservatives (a mistake because they are so harmful), I studied their mindset in various ways. The most illuminating model turned out to be Right Wing Authoritarian Followers (cf. Altemeyer, an American at U Manitoba, http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~altemey/ ). Viewed through that lens, their mindset becomes clearer and more predictable and therefore easier to counteract and defeat. From my journal: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=7680127 and http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=1352909

When I say half the country, it is less than half because Democrats / Progressives / Liberals predominate over Republicans / Regressives / Conservatives. Further, the FR element is so extreme that they represent about 3 % of the country though they think they actually represent about 70 % of the country since they think the USA is inherently and definitely conservative if only the sheeple could be freed from the tyranny of the left-wing liberal main stream media (they include Fox in that group now).

hollysmom

(5,946 posts)
53. this should be no surprise nor should it be ignored by DU
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 06:14 PM
Apr 2016

this will be a topic if Clinton in the candidate, there is no way around it. If you don't like it develope an alternate case,

Putting our heads in the sand and saying not important does nothing to win an election.

beastie boy

(9,347 posts)
67. Sadly, the topic has been exploited to prevent Hillary from becoming a candidate.
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 06:44 PM
Apr 2016

By the right wing scumbags at Free Republic, that is.

hollysmom

(5,946 posts)
78. and we should all have expected it inthe GE if Hillary is a candidate
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 07:25 PM
Apr 2016

who would be so dumb they thought it could be ignored. I feel like I have been living in a vacuum here where I have mentioned that the Clinton candidacy hads been attacked for 20 years building an unquestioning hatred by many people and it is not only republicans,I have talked to democrats that hate her as well based on the right wing conspiracy rumor spreading.

You can say it is not right, but it is a fact. Try and take the high road, if you wan,m but this cannot be ignored. It will be a big part of the campaign. Ignoring it at DU is really not an option.

BeanMusical

(4,389 posts)
71. I agree. That group named after a famous mountaineer is more toxic than plutonium.
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 07:00 PM
Apr 2016

Nice avatar you got there. I totally approve.

one_voice

(20,043 posts)
121. I like the avatar too..
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 05:04 PM
Apr 2016

Grew up with seeing the Celtic Cross . I think they're beautiful.

You have good taste.

BeanMusical

(4,389 posts)
127. Indeed but unfortunately, like other beautiful symbols
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 05:39 PM
Apr 2016

the original meaning has been distorted by certain hate groups.

Behind the Aegis (39,256 posts)
95. It is an Irish and Celtic symbol.

It is also a common pagan symbol. However, it is also used by neo-Nazis and when this was pointed out a few weeks back, some people decided it would be a "good time" to change their avatars. To me, that was a move to mock anti-Semitism, not express pride in Irish/Celtic heritage or paganism.

Before a few weeks ago, I never batted an eye when I saw that avatar, because the person baring it was either pagan or Celtic oriented, usually the former. Then I started seeing them all over the place and was really confused as to why. I was then told what had happened and given that three of the first people I saw using it have had incidents of anti-Semitism in their past, I knew it wasn't about "pride" of any kind, but about mocking Jews and anti-Semitism.

It is a definitely a symbol, at least in travels, associated with pagans, but I have seen it used by many neo-Nazis. It is a situation where context will determine whether it is being used for good or ill.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1749976

one_voice

(20,043 posts)
130. Yeah. BtA and I are good friends...
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 06:08 PM
Apr 2016

no need to show me what he said. Thanks.

ADL...

The origins of the Celtic Cross date back to pre-Christian times, to a “sun cross” or a “wheel cross” used in ancient Europe. The “sun cross” differs from the Celtic cross as we most commonly see it today – all of the arms of the cross being the same length. When the symbol was adapted into Christianity, one of the arms was elongated to symbolize the shape of cross generally associated with the crucifixion of Jesus Christ.

The League reports that it is most commonly the “sun cross” version of the Celtic Cross that is used by White Supremacists, although this, too, may not always be true. Many people of Irish birth and heritage remain unaware of the hateful ways in which this important part of Irish culture is used by others.

“The Celtic Cross, as typically depicted, is a traditional Christian symbol used for religious purposes as well as to symbolize concepts like Irish pride,” the League's web site explains.

“As such, it is a very common symbol and primarily used by non-extremists.”

“The overwhelming use of this version of the Celtic Cross is non-extremist and, in the absence of other hate symbols, does not denote white supremacy or racism.”


BtA words:


It is a definitely a symbol, at least in travels, associated with pagans, but I have seen it used by many neo-Nazis. It is a situation where context will determine whether it is being used for good or ill.



Yeah, some nasty people use it. Note the word some SOME. My brother has this as part of a tattoo. He's not a Nazi. It's his tattoo to honor my grandmother & his son after their deaths.

There's a concerted effort recently to harass posters that use this as their avatar. Some have used it since forever. It's a bullying tactic. It's been insinuated that they might be 'those people' . And it sucks. If really fucking sucks.

I will point it out every time I see it. Not just because it's bullying, but because it's part of my heritage. My brother wears this on his body to honor his dead son (my nephew) and my granny. Anyone that wants to insinuate 'Nazism'..well I will speak up.

Have a nice day.

BeanMusical

(4,389 posts)
132. "Anyone that wants to insinuate 'Nazism'..well I will speak up."
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 06:35 PM
Apr 2016

Then you should reply to your good friend BtA in that thread because he's very clear about what he witnessed going on on this board.

Before a few weeks ago, I never batted an eye when I saw that avatar, because the person baring it was either pagan or Celtic oriented, usually the former. Then I started seeing them all over the place and was really confused as to why. I was then told what had happened and given that three of the first people I saw using it have had incidents of anti-Semitism in their past, I knew it wasn't about "pride" of any kind, but about mocking Jews and anti-Semitism.


Nice day to you too.

McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
62. Bill Clinton's penis (and the shit he took for it) makes him a winner with independents.
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 06:33 PM
Apr 2016

So, I am glad to hear that they are doing our work for us. Clinton was never more popular than when he was being nailed to a cross for not wanting to tell his wife that he did not quite have sex with an intern. Even people who are not political have opinions about stuff like that--and the opinions are mostly of the "Leave the guy alone would you?" variety.

EllieBC

(3,014 posts)
84. A month ago someone here used "Slick Willie".
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 02:20 AM
Apr 2016

And was cheered and agreed with.

DU has members who embrace late 90s right wing names and vitriol against Clinton.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,340 posts)
88. When he shows up at a voting precinct with a bullhorn
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 08:40 AM
Apr 2016

and a squad of secret service, and blocks voters from getting in, then the moniker fits. Slick Willie.

When he makes a speech in which he says he almost thought about apologizing to a group he offended, then again: Slick Willie.

Vitriol? I think he likes it. I think he invites it.

 
85. That site is a cesspit
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 03:00 AM
Apr 2016

And has a hilariously outdated interface. I do occasionally visit from time to time, holding my nose while reading their vile garbage.

Monk06

(7,675 posts)
86. Wait til November 5 It's going to be like Jonestown over there They are completely unprepared for
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 03:20 AM
Apr 2016

the magitude of fail the the GOP is going to suffer

The right wing longs for a civil war. CWII or WWIII or SHTF they like to call it

The truth is the civil war is going on in their own party

The US is not going to vote in a Charismatic Christian Plutocracy under Cruz or an Jingoistic Fundamentalist coalition under Trump

They hate women, blacks, hispanics or anyone who is not white male and sports a WASP or Dutch/German last neme

It's back to the Gangs of New York, and the natives against the foreign heathens

 

noamnety

(20,234 posts)
90. I was thinking the other day
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 09:12 AM
Apr 2016

about how I come here less, and it occurred to me it was because it was becoming like free republic.

Then I remembered who we have running the campaigns, and it made sense.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
91. I just checked and they are still all over there.
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 09:40 AM
Apr 2016

Same count as yesterday.

So that means none are over here.

Phew!

 

AgerolanAmerican

(1,000 posts)
102. I just looked
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 12:08 PM
Apr 2016
An error occurred.

Sorry, the page you are looking for is currently unavailable.
Please try again later.

If you are the system administrator of this resource then you should check the error log for details.

Faithfully yours, nginx.



whoops, LOL

nothing to see here... literally
 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
97. no, as opposed to Bernie.
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 11:39 AM
Apr 2016

I haven't gotten this far in my mind as putting her in the general election,

 

maggies farm

(79 posts)
100. Hillary is anti-feminist. Bill proved it.
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 11:55 AM
Apr 2016

How Hillary reacted to Bill's affairs is why I among many reasons would never vote for an amoral corporatism militarist opportunist. We got rid of the Bushes now we need to get the Clinton's out of the American landscape.

 

maggies farm

(79 posts)
114. Apparently
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 02:04 PM
Apr 2016

You are not big enough for the primary process and would prefer coronations.

Registered democratic for 38 years never a vote for a republican. I thought the rise of the DLC and Clintons was a bad idea then and now.

Your clock is stuck and no longer tells time.

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
125. I ain't going to work on Maggie's farm no more.
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 05:27 PM
Apr 2016

No, I ain't gonna work on Maggie's farm no more
Well, I wake up in the morning
Fold my hands and pray for rain
I got a head full of ideas
That are drivin' me insane
It's a shame the way she makes me scrub the floor
I ain't gonna work on Maggie's farm no more.

 

maggies farm

(79 posts)
134. I no longer slave
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 06:55 PM
Apr 2016

for Clinton's farm no more either

Every since I saw Hillary and Bill awkwardly dance to kwassa

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
103. I feel bad for them.
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 12:34 PM
Apr 2016

That's no way to go through life, chained to stupid beliefs, fearing the change that their own success is accelerating, betrayed at every turn by the rapacious criminals who play upon their inability to think rationally.

I wish there were a way to explain to them that if you are forgiving of hypocrisy and willing to believe stupid shit, then you are perfectly free to change your damned mind and believe in things that aren't stupid, that don't harm yourself and others. You are free to change your ways and forgive yourself for the evil you have wrought through your hatred.

Maybe someone could re-write the Bible so that it encourages people to forgive and change their evil ways, to leave behind the xenophobic hatred and violence of the first version and encourage instead love and peace and tolerance for your fellow humans.

Oh wait. They tried that, already.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
110. Can you believe they are still discussing Bill Clintons affair almost 20 years ago.
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 01:30 PM
Apr 2016

Of course they are.

Now, I don't mind what consenting adults do, but I ask myself what I would do if I was a huge public personality and the President, and the question "Should I play with a cigar and a vagina in the Oval Office?" came up. I think it's monumentally stupid to say "Hell, whatever...go for it!". Really stupid.

But of course the GOP is gonna bring it up. And every other scandal that was ever real, half real, completely made up about all Clintons alive today. There is an irrational hatred of anything Clinton on the right. Those on the left who don't like them have rational reasons.... like the huge amount of baggage for the GOP to rummage thru.

Hekate

(90,690 posts)
115. I hope you changed shoes when you came back in this house....
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 03:08 PM
Apr 2016

...cause you know we keep it so much cleaner here!

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
116. How about that Popegate nonsense?
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 03:16 PM
Apr 2016

How asinine is it that they are going off the rails trying to make something out of nothing? They look like morons over there.

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Hekate

(90,690 posts)
119. Trumad, I've told you before that it's no good saying, "Mom, it followed me home." No, dear...
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 03:37 PM
Apr 2016

No you can't keep it even if you give it a flea bath first.

Nightjock

(1,408 posts)
126. Thanks
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 05:36 PM
Apr 2016

I tried going there once and the lack of any form of critical thinking, racism and flat out stupidity was too much to for me. After all these years, I cannot believe they are still wasting time talking about that shit with all the issues facing this world!

betsuni

(25,528 posts)
135. And thank goodness over here we don't see "Shillary" "Killary" "rabid Hilfans"
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 07:13 PM
Apr 2016

"Hilliard" "Hillarians" and the like used to belittle one of the Democratic candidates and her supporters. Republicans are fucking assholes.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
137. Don't forget our new favorite... Hillary ASTRO TURFERS
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 01:18 AM
Apr 2016

Sounds like a kick ass football team or lawn service if you ask me...

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