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We were all one people until-- (Original Post) packman Apr 2016 OP
Don't forget Nationalism.... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2016 #1
This reminds me of a favorite saying... logosoco Apr 2016 #2
I like that - packman Apr 2016 #3
Yup! SoapBox Apr 2016 #4
Until the gerbil sneezed libodem Apr 2016 #5
Ewwww... SammyWinstonJack Apr 2016 #12
If that is not the most perverted look I'VE EVER SEEN. Elmer S. E. Dump Apr 2016 #36
Yep libodem Apr 2016 #38
Cruz is a fucking weirdo. Enthusiast Apr 2016 #47
Michaelangelo's god? Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2016 #6
How far back in history do you have to go for that? The2ndWheel Apr 2016 #7
Back to a time when we were only divided by tribe Bucky Apr 2016 #28
I have a better answer... Bucky Apr 2016 #55
You forgot one . . . Jack Rabbit Apr 2016 #8
YES! gregcrawford Apr 2016 #33
I give you my permission to anything of that you want, Mr. Crawford Jack Rabbit Apr 2016 #34
Geography Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2016 #9
...to realize that religion is man made. SammyWinstonJack Apr 2016 #13
Many things are man made The2ndWheel Apr 2016 #15
"Prisoners of history." Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2016 #44
It was chosen for me. Luckily I was smart enough to call bullshit. Elmer S. E. Dump Apr 2016 #37
Beautiful libodem Apr 2016 #39
If I had to guess... Act_of_Reparation Apr 2016 #10
did you mean "bribes" instead of "tribes?" Jeffersons Ghost Apr 2016 #19
Ha! that gives me hope Bucky Apr 2016 #29
Oddly enough qwlauren35 Apr 2016 #30
Sorry to harsh your mellow, but that's a crock. Cowpunk Apr 2016 #11
You sound so negative Bucky Apr 2016 #31
+1 uhnope Apr 2016 #50
Organized religion actually united people and helped form the first civilizations. Odin2005 Apr 2016 #14
We chose to separate ourselves. None of those things is strong enough without our active jtuck004 Apr 2016 #16
Believing we are separate, the original "sin". Dont call me Shirley Apr 2016 #27
This ^^^ !!! nt yesphan Apr 2016 #53
Eve One_Life_To_Give Apr 2016 #17
Oh, the Goddess is going to get you libodem Apr 2016 #40
We were never one people Mosby Apr 2016 #18
Shhhh... we're having a feel good moment. Act_of_Reparation Apr 2016 #21
True. But liberals usually work to bring races, religions and "others" together. Conservatives pampango Apr 2016 #22
Yep. FLPanhandle Apr 2016 #24
being part of the human race heaven05 Apr 2016 #56
What draws us back together... Octafish Apr 2016 #20
Groups stick together. Rex Apr 2016 #43
When "they" allowed money into politics it exacerbated an existing problem into a crisis. Enthusiast Apr 2016 #48
don't forget Gender (or Feminism) nt Fresh_Start Apr 2016 #23
It's always/often US vs THEM, imo; elleng Apr 2016 #25
It all stems from religion. ConsiderThis_2016 Apr 2016 #26
The comment earlier about religion makes sense to me. qwlauren35 Apr 2016 #32
Sorry...Gender divided us first. BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2016 #35
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2016 #51
Two words: Southern Strategy Initech Apr 2016 #41
It's cilantro. montana_hazeleyes Apr 2016 #42
Same here! chwaliszewski Apr 2016 #45
Until the Olive Garden wars. progressoid Apr 2016 #46
Ah, have you ever seen what gorilla bands will do to each other? It is BRUTAL. Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #49
I hate to break it to you, but we've never, ever been connected, together, undivided... Nitram Apr 2016 #52
Conservatives drive us apart - the better to promote fear of the "OTHERS" and get elected. pampango Apr 2016 #54
America was founded on these very divisions MrScorpio Apr 2016 #57
if only we could return to this Noble Savage Eden... NuttyFluffers Apr 2016 #58

Bucky

(54,020 posts)
28. Back to a time when we were only divided by tribe
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 08:28 PM
Apr 2016

Racism: it was started by those fucking Neanderthals!

Bucky

(54,020 posts)
55. I have a better answer...
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:13 AM
Apr 2016

You have to go all the way back to your childhood. That's when unimportant demographic accidents didn't matter. When you were a kid, you played with everyone at the park

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
8. You forgot one . . .
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 01:19 PM
Apr 2016

We were all one people until the Supreme Shysters declared corporations were people.

The2ndWheel

(7,947 posts)
15. Many things are man made
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 01:59 PM
Apr 2016

Human rights don't exist anywhere but in the human imagination. Time, direction, language, and laws in general. A lot of things were chosen for you. We're all prisoners of history.

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
10. If I had to guess...
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 01:21 PM
Apr 2016

...I'd say humans were killing each other before any of that, with competition for resources driving wedges between familial groups and tribes.

But that doesn't look as good as internet meme, so I guess we can ignore it.

Jeffersons Ghost

(15,235 posts)
19. did you mean "bribes" instead of "tribes?"
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 03:05 PM
Apr 2016

bribes bring people together, especially Panamanian and Chinese lawyers

qwlauren35

(6,148 posts)
30. Oddly enough
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 08:32 PM
Apr 2016

When other species fight to the death, it's usually about mating rights. From what I've seen, when a non-human "tribe" finds food scarce, they go looking for more. They don't fight to the death over it.

Cowpunk

(719 posts)
11. Sorry to harsh your mellow, but that's a crock.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 01:27 PM
Apr 2016

Humans obviously have a strong genetic predilection to divide ourselves into factions.
If it wasn't race or religion, we'd find some other reason to do it.
Getting rid of these categories would solve nothing.
We need to accept our differences and rise above them in awareness that, though we may disagree, we are better off when we work together.

Bucky

(54,020 posts)
31. You sound so negative
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 08:36 PM
Apr 2016

All you negatives are like that... O-negs, A-negs, even those supposedly "enlightened" B-negs. Why don't you all go back to where people with your Rhesus antigen belong?! Our Founding Fathers meant this to be a positive antigen country. Either change to our ways or go home!!

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
14. Organized religion actually united people and helped form the first civilizations.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 01:35 PM
Apr 2016

The "natural" scale of human life is a tribe of about 150 people divided into several clans of 20-30 people. 150 is the max number you can personally know. Religion made settlements of larger than 150 people possible by making people afraid of divine punishment if they wronged people in their community they did not know.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
16. We chose to separate ourselves. None of those things is strong enough without our active
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 02:13 PM
Apr 2016

participation,

Would be cool to blame something else though.

One_Life_To_Give

(6,036 posts)
17. Eve
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 02:23 PM
Apr 2016

Adam was fine, lonely but fine all by himself. But no, Eve comes along and we been dividing ourselves ever since.

libodem

(19,288 posts)
40. Oh, the Goddess is going to get you
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 09:47 PM
Apr 2016

For that

This is the Age of Aquarius and we sre going back to the garden. It will be the Mother's way again in this age. Just wait and see.

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
21. Shhhh... we're having a feel good moment.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 03:18 PM
Apr 2016

Which, around these parts, is much more important than the truth sometimes.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
22. True. But liberals usually work to bring races, religions and "others" together. Conservatives
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 03:25 PM
Apr 2016

do just the opposite.

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
24. Yep.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 06:53 PM
Apr 2016

We had a "them" concept way back as small bands of hunter/gatherers.

Humans never had the concept of "one people" and probably never will.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
56. being part of the human race
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:35 AM
Apr 2016

makes us all of one race, doesn't it? Or I'm crazy? Religion, politics and money. All are used to divde us to keep one certain group 'in charge'. People better start getting real about who is causing the calamity(s) WE ALL are facing. One race, the human race is in danger from the agendas and lust for power and control of us all......a lot of those sitting at the top of the three evils mentioned above want us to judge and sooner or later kill in the name of superficial differences, race, sex, sexual orientation and religion being the most used tools. And we are using those tools, efficiently, worldwide, daily.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
20. What draws us back together...
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 03:11 PM
Apr 2016

Democracy -- the idea that ALL are equal...ALL have infinite value...ALL are unique...ALL are worthy of respect.

Except assholes, tyrants, fascists, royals, Republicans and other forms of hypocrite who think they're better than others, of course.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
43. Groups stick together.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 10:54 PM
Apr 2016

The authoritarians will always have us as a thorn in their side. And every generation after. Just too much bullshit to real now and known as fact. South America is unraveling and will join in multilateral takeovers from China etc.. It is important to remember what has happened. For many it is JFK. For me being younger it is 9/11.

Blame life right Octa? They pretend reality is some plot. Oh wait...it all happened. I've changed my mind, history does not have a liberal slant, history is totally neutral. Just there to record passively. That is why so many Rovan agents are hard at working scrubbing facts. They keep the shit that works for them. Hell they are all still Pinkerton agents at heart, so many still don't realize how brutal and barbaric Trump and Cruz zombies are for blood. Also all those confused libertarians and neo-liberals and neo-fascists following around Trump and all the crazy fundie begging for the Rapture Cruz lovers.

And of course the M$M constant babblefish too bad for them we won't ever forget right? The WWW will be here forever. They cannot control it. They cannot control us.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
48. When "they" allowed money into politics it exacerbated an existing problem into a crisis.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 05:53 AM
Apr 2016

Those that champion the status quo are not acceptable as my candidate.

ConsiderThis_2016

(274 posts)
26. It all stems from religion.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 08:20 PM
Apr 2016

Created by man, many, many moons ago. Nothing divides humans more. It instructs people how to think and act for fear of retribution. As long as our planet is still habitable, things will get better in direct proportion to the waning of faith. Hey at least we don't burn witches like we used to. PS. Some people think they need it to cope, realty can be tough stuff at times. There is a lot of positive instructions in those holy books. it's the other stuff that sux.

qwlauren35

(6,148 posts)
32. The comment earlier about religion makes sense to me.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 08:36 PM
Apr 2016

That the purpose of early religion was to allow smaller groups to band together. You may think that religion divides, but at the same time, it unites those within it. So, it fits both cases.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
35. Sorry...Gender divided us first.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 09:22 PM
Apr 2016

Almost every human culture, starting with earliest findings, practiced a gender based power system. Men=powerful. Women=subservient.

Look how gender didn't even seem important enough to the meme-maker to include! Violence and discrimination against women is at epidemic levels worldwide, yet it didn't even register in the m-m's consciousness.

Response to BlancheSplanchnik (Reply #35)

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
49. Ah, have you ever seen what gorilla bands will do to each other? It is BRUTAL.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 05:59 AM
Apr 2016

Sorry, this is bullshit. The tribalism is part of our primate wiring. Doesnt mean we can't try to rise above it, but this "idyllic original state" crap is nonsense.

It doesnt work any better than when it involves cartoon devil snakes and forbidden apples.

Nitram

(22,813 posts)
52. I hate to break it to you, but we've never, ever been connected, together, undivided...
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 09:50 AM
Apr 2016

...and unclassified. First we were small clans that fought to the death to protect hunting grounds and food sources from other clans. The better organized and smarter ones with better weapons survived. Wealth became a thing as soon as we developed agriculture and started living together in much larger communities that could accumulate and store wealth. There never was a Golden Age of harmony and cooperation.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
54. Conservatives drive us apart - the better to promote fear of the "OTHERS" and get elected.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:00 AM
Apr 2016

Liberals try to bring us together - to overcome our differences since 'we are all in this together'.

"There are those that look at things the way they are, and ask why? I dream of things that never were, and ask why not?"

MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
57. America was founded on these very divisions
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 01:04 PM
Apr 2016

...Of race, class, religion, political affiliation and gender.

The entire history of this country is a story of the struggle to overcome the inequality of these differences. And we're not even close to resolving any of it.

When you think about humanity, the first thing that you need to ask yourself is, "Who is humanity representative of?" Are we talking about, rich, straight, white, land-owning males here? Because in our founding as a nation, it was only these people who were fully franchised citizens.

Today, we're still greatly divided by many of the same divisions, only altered to accommodate a modern form and function. White supremacy, patriarchy, oligarchy, straight normality and Christian dominance aren't going away anytime soon, simply because of the unearned privileges and unequal amount of power that each of them confer to one group over others.

Until those who retain the privilege and power are either forced to share, or decide to share on their own, don't expect it to change anytime soon, in spite of the struggles of the disenfranchised. Those struggles are necessary and well worth it, but they can also end up being futile instead.

If you have power and privilege, the two hardest things to do with them are both recognizing that you retain such power and privilege and also sharing that power and privilege with those who are disenfranchised.

So, this begs the question... Who is that message for?

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