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mainer

(12,022 posts)
Sat May 7, 2016, 12:25 PM May 2016

Ivy League Economist Interrogated for doing math on American Airlines Flight

Unbelievable.

What do know about your seatmate? The agent asked the foreign-sounding man.

Well, she acted a bit funny, he replied, but she didn’t seem visibly ill. Maybe, he thought, they wanted his help in piecing together what was wrong with her.

And then the big reveal: The woman wasn’t really sick at all! Instead this quick-thinking traveler had Seen Something, and so she had Said Something.

That Something she’d seen had been her seatmate’s cryptic notes, scrawled in a script she didn’t recognize. Maybe it was code, or some foreign lettering, possibly the details of a plot to destroy the dozens of innocent lives aboard American Airlines Flight 3950. She may have felt it her duty to alert the authorities just to be safe. The curly-haired man was, the agent informed him politely, suspected of terrorism.



https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/rampage/wp/2016/05/07/ivy-league-economist-interrogated-for-doing-math-on-american-airlines-flight/
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Ivy League Economist Interrogated for doing math on American Airlines Flight (Original Post) mainer May 2016 OP
Disgusting. cali May 2016 #1
When ignorance gets to $5.00 a barrel, I want the drilling rights to that women's head. n/t dixiegrrrrl May 2016 #2
It'll never go that high. surrealAmerican May 2016 #29
Talking Barbie: "Math is hard!!!" mainer May 2016 #3
"Please stow all laptops and discontinue any calculus". Nye Bevan May 2016 #4
The person was white oberliner May 2016 #35
Another "Pi in the sky" error LastLiberal in PalmSprings May 2016 #5
a2+b2=c2 erlewyne May 2016 #6
Wasn't i(t) invented by Pythagoras(?) AlbertCat May 2016 #8
"The stupid is strong" awoke_in_2003 May 2016 #14
Thank you AlbertCat. erlewyne May 2016 #31
I did a typo. AlbertCat May 2016 #32
Obviously a terrorist from that group Al Gebra packman May 2016 #7
She may not be as dumb as we think! A Simple Game May 2016 #11
AL Gebra made my life miserable! It is a disgustingly evil thing perpetrated on unsuspecting Dustlawyer May 2016 #15
Haha! Though algebra is derived from an Arabic word! nt Lucky Luciano May 2016 #21
+1000!! n/t eridani May 2016 #33
Really funny comment under the article: Surya Gayatri May 2016 #9
that is definitely felony-level stupid. niyad May 2016 #10
Good gawd, people are fucking stupid. Iggo May 2016 #12
Okay, even if he had been writing in Arabic, or Sanskrit, or Greek, or 1monster May 2016 #13
^^^This Cal Carpenter May 2016 #16
Yep IMO probably Person 2713 May 2016 #30
A maid saw my notebook full of organic chemistry reaction diagrams once Xipe Totec May 2016 #17
It's a national embarrassment Hekate May 2016 #20
He did something suspicious 6chars May 2016 #18
Are you serious? Logical May 2016 #36
The stupid, it hurts. Hekate May 2016 #19
Idiotic. drm604 May 2016 #22
"He said the pilot seemed embarrassed." ROFL The pilot was too stupid to recognize algebra. jtuck004 May 2016 #23
Idiocracy is no longer just a comedy, it's a documentary. Initech May 2016 #24
"The tools of conquest do not necessarily come with bombs and explosions and fallout." ... Jopin Klobe May 2016 #25
Excellent episode. I once had an 8th LibDemAlways May 2016 #27
I have a friend who was aboard an aircraft from LA to Maui LibDemAlways May 2016 #26
This person wasn't a Muslim oberliner May 2016 #34
I am sure math is unrecognizable and scary to some and he had dark curly hair so that right there Person 2713 May 2016 #28

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
4. "Please stow all laptops and discontinue any calculus".
Sat May 7, 2016, 12:32 PM
May 2016

When you combine racism, utter stupidity, and an airplane, the results can be excruciating.

erlewyne

(1,115 posts)
6. a2+b2=c2
Sat May 7, 2016, 01:06 PM
May 2016

Wasn't in invented by Pythagoras. We are all
so dumb. Looking over someone's shoulder is
fruitless.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
8. Wasn't i(t) invented by Pythagoras(?)
Sat May 7, 2016, 01:24 PM
May 2016

No...it was just explained by Pythagoras. a2+b2=c2 has always been the case.... even before Pythagoras.

The only reason I say this is because the other night on the boob tube some ancient alien idiot was all excited because some ancient civilization in South America or somewhere had carved a "perfect equilateral triangle....thousands of years before Pythagoras!!!!!"... so aliens! As if an equilateral triangle couldn't exist before Pythagoras noticed it and its properties.

The stupid is strong in this civilized world!

erlewyne

(1,115 posts)
31. Thank you AlbertCat.
Sat May 7, 2016, 04:52 PM
May 2016

I did a typo.

Yes, you are correct about stupid.

I want to learn more about Pythagoras and the golden mean.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
32. I did a typo.
Sun May 8, 2016, 01:52 AM
May 2016

Not really.

That's the way it's often talked about. And we all knew what you meant.

It was just that ancient alien show..... Jesus!....

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
11. She may not be as dumb as we think!
Sat May 7, 2016, 01:36 PM
May 2016

The woman may be in the camp that believe al-Khwarizmi, who founded the discipline of al-jabr invented Al Gebra instead of the Greek mathematician Diophantus. Sadly I must admit I, along with many others, have had dealings with Al Gebra in the past.

Dustlawyer

(10,497 posts)
15. AL Gebra made my life miserable! It is a disgustingly evil thing perpetrated on unsuspecting
Sat May 7, 2016, 02:31 PM
May 2016

Left brain people who cannot easily grasp the devious complexity that is Al Gebra!

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
9. Really funny comment under the article:
Sat May 7, 2016, 01:26 PM
May 2016
Rational Actor

7:22 PM GMT+0200

Clearly a member of that new terrorist group, al-Gebra

1monster

(11,012 posts)
13. Okay, even if he had been writing in Arabic, or Sanskrit, or Greek, or
Sat May 7, 2016, 02:15 PM
May 2016

Cyrillic, or Hebrew, any other alphabet that is not generally familiar in the US, why would that alone make him suspect? Because he didn't want to socialize with the nosy blonde fate seated beside him?

Cal Carpenter

(4,959 posts)
16. ^^^This
Sat May 7, 2016, 02:36 PM
May 2016

It's nice that a celebrated academic can provide a charming WaPo-worthy example of profiling-gone-wrong, but the fact is, if he was an unknown dude that spoke no English and was writing in Arabic this woman's reaction (and that of the airline) would be just as fucked up. But it probably wouldn't hit the news. In fact, he'd probably still be in some locked room somewhere being questioned.



Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
17. A maid saw my notebook full of organic chemistry reaction diagrams once
Sat May 7, 2016, 02:39 PM
May 2016

And went to tell my mom that I was performing witchcraft.

Mind you, we're talking here about a simple peasant woman with no education, freshly brought from the sierras in Mexico.

Now days most Americans are descending to her level of education.

drm604

(16,230 posts)
22. Idiotic.
Sat May 7, 2016, 03:07 PM
May 2016

See something that you don't understand? It must be terrorism!

Did she think that the "strange writing" would make his notepad explode?

He should be able to sue this woman. Individuals should not be subject to the random fears of society's lowest common denominators.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
23. "He said the pilot seemed embarrassed." ROFL The pilot was too stupid to recognize algebra.
Sat May 7, 2016, 03:07 PM
May 2016

I would have turned in my ticket and rented a car.


"Casey Norton, a spokesman for American Airlines (whose regional partner Air Wisconsin operated the flight), said the woman had indeed initially told the crew she was sick, but when she deplaned she disclosed that the reason she was feeling ill was her concern about the behavior of her seatmate. At that time, she requested to be rebooked on another flight. The crew then called for security personnel, who interviewed Menzio and determined him not to be a “credible threat.” "


You got a note from a passenger that she was ill, so you let her sit without anyone seeing her for half an hour, turned the plane around and re-gated, and led her off?

Sure you did...or that was a masterpiece of a note on that napkin.

Jopin Klobe

(779 posts)
25. "The tools of conquest do not necessarily come with bombs and explosions and fallout." ...
Sat May 7, 2016, 03:31 PM
May 2016

... “There are weapons that are simply thoughts, attitudes, prejudices – to be found only in the minds of men. For the record, prejudices can kill – and suspicion can destroy – and a thoughtless frightened search for a scapegoat has a fallout all of its own – for the children – and the children yet unborn. ...

... And the pity of it is ...

... that these things cannot be confined...

... to the Twilight Zone. ...

[link:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Monsters_Are_Due_on_Maple_Street|

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
26. I have a friend who was aboard an aircraft from LA to Maui
Sat May 7, 2016, 03:46 PM
May 2016

seated beside a veiled Muslim woman who was fiddling with an alarm clock throughout the flight. My friend thought it was kind of a strange thing to be doing aboard an airplane, but she said it would never have occurred to her to bring it to the crew's attention as a precursor to terrorism -- until she mentioned it to a friend who freaked out and said she should have reported it immediately. Muslim phobia is rampant.

Person 2713

(3,263 posts)
28. I am sure math is unrecognizable and scary to some and he had dark curly hair so that right there
Sat May 7, 2016, 03:51 PM
May 2016

Morans
Trump loves the uneducated so maybe the guy is right about that

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