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womanofthehills

(8,709 posts)
Sat May 7, 2016, 08:19 PM May 2016

Levaquin, Cipro, Avelox - now linked to aortic defect - even past users

Each year, more than 20 million prescriptions are written for high-potency antibiotics that have been linked to deadly heart problems. Big Pharma has tried to keep these dangers out of the public spotlight, but as the death toll continues to climb, that’s becoming harder and harder.

A new case has emerged with Levaquin, which possibly causes permanent heart damage. America’s Lawyer, Mike Papantonio, discusses this with attorney Bryan Aylstock…


http://trofire.com/2016/05/04/popular-anti-biotics-may-cause-severe-heart-damage-fda-nothing1/

First it was peripheral neuropathy, nerve damage, tendon ruptures, etc. from these drugs - now they are linked to damage in the lining of the aorta. Researcher say they are over-prescribed for minor issues. Dr Mahyar Etminan, Univ of British Columbia : " told The New York Times that overusing these drugs is like “trying to kill a fly with an automatic weapon.”

https://www.drugwatch.com/cipro-levaquin-avelox/











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Levaquin, Cipro, Avelox - now linked to aortic defect - even past users (Original Post) womanofthehills May 2016 OP
I was significantly "floxed" in 2013. roamer65 May 2016 #1
Glad to hear you are recovering - many don't. womanofthehills May 2016 #5
I was on it longer duration and know of what you speak. roamer65 May 2016 #6
Why should we surprised that antibiotics cause tissue damage? leveymg May 2016 #2
The quinolone core of the antibiotic has a very unique side effect. roamer65 May 2016 #4
So, potent antibiotics also attack brain tissue? leveymg May 2016 #14
Ruptured achilles from levaquin happened to one of my family members. Dont call me Shirley May 2016 #3
I was prescribed Cipro when I was sickened by Camplobacter - a type of snagglepuss May 2016 #7
I took Cipro once - LiberalElite May 2016 #8
But, but - didn't our wise and incorruptible FDA approve these!? forest444 May 2016 #9
Two years ago I took Levaquin nevergiveup May 2016 #10
Stop continuing to ask for antibiotics even after we tell you you don't need them. Aristus May 2016 #11
My mom couldn't walk for over a year because of Levaquin. cwydro May 2016 #12
In the tropical world, CIPRO is the goto drug for when you are infected JCMach1 May 2016 #13
2007 Levaquin .so many side effects I don't have time . Over prescribed and should never be the Person 2713 May 2016 #15
Watch your back, Tom Brokaw! KamaAina May 2016 #16
Well shit Marrah_G May 2016 #17
Documents show the side effects are very well known by mnftr. But Pharm reps don't tell Person 2713 May 2016 #18

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
1. I was significantly "floxed" in 2013.
Sat May 7, 2016, 08:28 PM
May 2016

Last edited Sat May 7, 2016, 09:20 PM - Edit history (1)

I am still recovering from it. I am lucky, some do not recover from their encounter with this class of "antibiotics".

Do your research...folks, you will find that the fluoroquinolone class of antibiotics was original designed to be a chemotherapy drug.

This class of drug is also used in veterinary medicine, known as Baytril. It is just as toxic to pets as it is to humans. It also means it is in the food supply.

womanofthehills

(8,709 posts)
5. Glad to hear you are recovering - many don't.
Sat May 7, 2016, 09:06 PM
May 2016

My boyfriend is one who didn't - he now has peripheral neuropathy from Cipro.

Another side effect is suicidal ideation. I had a friend who has never been suicidal, call me up saying she wanted to kill herself. She said she was on Cipro for a urinary infection. We looked up the side effects and there it was. She actually didn't even have an infection - she had eaten lots of beets and thought she was urinating blood. The doc prescribed it over the phone.

Central Nervous System:

added .....convulsive seizures (including status epilepticus), grand mal convulsion, paranoia, toxic psychosis, depression (potentially culminating in self-injurious behavior, such as suicidal ideations/thoughts and attempted or completed suicide) .....


http://www.fda.gov/Safety/MedWatch/SafetyInformation/ucm338803.htm

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
6. I was on it longer duration and know of what you speak.
Sat May 7, 2016, 09:17 PM
May 2016

Luckily I realized before it was too late and put an end to the "exposure". My sympathies to your boyfriend and your friend. I wish them recovery!

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
2. Why should we surprised that antibiotics cause tissue damage?
Sat May 7, 2016, 08:30 PM
May 2016

Weren't they designed to kill cellular matter?

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
4. The quinolone core of the antibiotic has a very unique side effect.
Sat May 7, 2016, 08:35 PM
May 2016

It dissolves the collagen matrix found in many of our tissues (i.e. cartilage, tendon, muscle fascia, etc)

The fluoroquinolones break into 4 active compounds shortly after ingestion. One of them is a potent neurotoxin...cyclopropyl, in addition to the quinolone core, carboxylic acid and a piperazin compound.

snagglepuss

(12,704 posts)
7. I was prescribed Cipro when I was sickened by Camplobacter - a type of
Sat May 7, 2016, 10:03 PM
May 2016

food poisoning. I avoid antibiotics however with Camplobacter symptoms often go away giving a false sense of security because it can stay dormant in the body and either cause death if I recall correctly or brain disease. I remember being shocked when I heard I had to take Cipro, however my doctor is very very cautious about prescribing drugs so I felt confident this was the right choice. It was my understanding that Cipro is the only antibiotic that works so to frighten people might not be wise.


FWIW That was 9 years ago and I have no heart problems whatsoever.

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
8. I took Cipro once -
Sat May 7, 2016, 10:25 PM
May 2016

after a few doses, I developed calf pain for no apparent reason. I called the M.D. immediately and she prescribed something else. I now have on my list of current meds that i show for every medical appointment "NO CIPRO".

forest444

(5,902 posts)
9. But, but - didn't our wise and incorruptible FDA approve these!?
Sat May 7, 2016, 10:25 PM
May 2016

And surely no one at the FDA who rubber-stamped these went through the revolving door into some 7-figure Big Phama plum job, right?

nevergiveup

(4,760 posts)
10. Two years ago I took Levaquin
Sat May 7, 2016, 10:51 PM
May 2016

for a serious case of Bronchitis and ended up with an aggressive rash on my feet and legs that within a few days became third degree burns. I barely escaped skin grafts but because of the resulting nerve damage in my calves and ankles I lost partial use of my right leg and my feet still hurt constantly.

Aristus

(66,369 posts)
11. Stop continuing to ask for antibiotics even after we tell you you don't need them.
Sat May 7, 2016, 11:02 PM
May 2016

I have a patient who insists he has a chronic sinus infection and demands antibiotics every time he comes in. I tell him to stop smoking two packs of cigarettes a day, and the problem may improve. He says: "That's not gonna happen. Can't you just give me antibiotics?" I'm guessing he'll eventually give up and go find an order-taking mediocrity with a medical license who will prescribe him what he wants.

I know there are unscrupulous quack providers out there who will throw pills at their patients just to get them to go away, and they are contributing to the rise of antimicrobial resistance. The greater the resistance in a pathogen, the fewer antibiotics there are that can treat them; usually the more powerful ones like those mentioned above, with worse potential side effects. Listen to us when we tell you that your cold virus is not going to get better with antibiotic treatment.

JCMach1

(27,558 posts)
13. In the tropical world, CIPRO is the goto drug for when you are infected
Sun May 8, 2016, 11:46 AM
May 2016

and they don't know WTF from.

So living in the UAE and travelling to Africa often, I have had CIPRO many times.

Person 2713

(3,263 posts)
15. 2007 Levaquin .so many side effects I don't have time . Over prescribed and should never be the
Tue May 10, 2016, 08:05 PM
May 2016

first choice drug IMO
Also using this as first defense leads to resistance besides all the health issues

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
17. Well shit
Tue May 10, 2016, 08:24 PM
May 2016

I had significant damage to my nerves from Cipro. Peripheral neuropathy in all four extremities, insomnia, anxiety attacks, memory loss. I was given heavy doses of a number of antibiotics to kill an infection that went septic. Without them I probably would have died.

My gripe is that the side effects were not very well known about, it took a week for the doctors to figure out why I couldn't move my limbs.

Person 2713

(3,263 posts)
18. Documents show the side effects are very well known by mnftr. But Pharm reps don't tell
Wed May 11, 2016, 12:44 PM
May 2016

the doctors when they visit to try to sell them on using them.
The consumer group, public citizen, had to sue the FDA to make the drug companies include a black box warning and add the additional side effects never included with the medication
However they are IMO overused for low end infection but with something very serious like sepsis , you probably were the kind of patient who should be prescribed theses drugs but also be made aware of the side effects although some do not pronounce until many months after use.
Of course I am sure I do not have to tell you that you would be pronounced dead if you didn't take some strong medication with regards to resistant sepsis!

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