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struggle4progress

(118,290 posts)
Fri May 13, 2016, 12:01 AM May 2016

Malheur refuge standoff defendant can be his own lawyer

By The Associated Press
8:36 A.M., MAY 12, 2016

... Judge Anna Brown allowed Jason Patrick to be his own lawyer Wednesday, but not without questioning his ability to act appropriately without legal counsel ... She appointed Andrew Kohlmetz .. standby attorney.

In previous court appearances, Patrick has been scolded for making outbursts and speaking out of turn.

The 44-year-old roofer from Georgia is now the third co-defendant in the case to represent himself. A request from a fourth defendant, Duane Ehmer, is pending ...


http://registerguard.com/rg/news/local/34362781-75/malheur-refuge-standoff-defendant-can-be-his-own-lawyer.html.csp

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Monk06

(7,675 posts)
3. His first motion will be to try to remove the judge for treason or lack of legal authority or some
Fri May 13, 2016, 12:10 AM
May 2016

other made up legal argument

Aristus

(66,380 posts)
4. Because GOLD FRINGE! That's why!
Fri May 13, 2016, 12:16 AM
May 2016


Right there! Gold fringe! That proves....something. I think.

Or disproves...well...something, I guess...

jmowreader

(50,559 posts)
7. You don't know your sovereign citizens very well
Fri May 13, 2016, 01:35 AM
May 2016

Sovereign citizens believe if the flag in a courtroom has gold fringe on it, the court is operating under Maritime Admiralty Martial Law Jurisdiction and is ineligible to try people who aren't in the military.

Your sovereign citizen believes the Constitution only allows two types of courts: Common Law courts and Admiralty courts. They also believe statute law and codified law are both invalid - the only legitimate law in America is common law. Since their version of common law says nothing is illegal if no victim is created, sovereign citizens can never be guilty of anything. (This version of common law ALSO says, if anyone does anything to a sovereign citizen the SC is completely entitled to file a retaliatory lien against the person, send a 1099 to the IRS claiming millions of dollars in payments were made so the person gets audited, and all sorts of OTHER fun things.)

If I was a judge, I'd have been kicked off the bench by now for ordering bailiffs to take sovereign citizens out back and shoot them. They are worthless people - much worse than Republicans.

Monk06

(7,675 posts)
13. Your summery of sovereign citizen legalistic zanyness if word perfect You should C&P it into every
Fri May 13, 2016, 09:53 PM
May 2016

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post related to teabagger Pennsylvania lawyers, Federalist Papers obsessives and Vattelite Natural Law fart sniffers

According to the Maritime Law originalists the US is a boat and only the law of the Captain is relevent to any matter of crime and jurisdiction

That's why they worship that modern captain Bly, Donald Drumph

So damn the torpedos fully steam ahead, and other assorted middle school social studies jibberish

Maru Kitteh

(28,340 posts)
8. Huh. I'm not familiar with this particular brain surgeon.
Fri May 13, 2016, 01:45 AM
May 2016

Perhaps he didn't get enough attention at the big skadoo and now he's looking to make up for lost time.

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