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30 Worst Foods for Your Heart (Original Post) ailsagirl May 2016 OP
Damn. Beef jerky. Who knew? underpants May 2016 #1
Jerky has a metric shitload of salt in it. nt awoke_in_2003 May 2016 #7
The store bought stuff. hobbit709 May 2016 #42
It is about 2.5 % if done properly. Drahthaardogs May 2016 #46
K&R !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! n/t RKP5637 May 2016 #2
I'm gonna starve! Demonaut May 2016 #3
I just saw my diet wilt the stilt May 2016 #4
OMG I love 5 guys burgers and fries! leftofcool May 2016 #5
There is one 2 miles from me... awoke_in_2003 May 2016 #8
fried in peanut oil wilt the stilt May 2016 #15
You're not making this awoke_in_2003 May 2016 #16
hand cut fried to perfection wilt the stilt May 2016 #19
Ah yes, if it tastes good, it's bad for you... n/t backscatter712 May 2016 #6
In general terms, yes. randome May 2016 #14
Wow, I braced myself for the worst. yewberry May 2016 #9
I would rather have one rib eye a month awoke_in_2003 May 2016 #10
mmmm, ribeye! shanti May 2016 #23
No, I have not... awoke_in_2003 May 2016 #24
one more thing shanti May 2016 #25
Yeah, I need to find a butcher... awoke_in_2003 May 2016 #30
I'm gonna start adding frozen berries to my water after reading this article. stillwaiting May 2016 #11
So in other words...anything but water and lettuce... davidn3600 May 2016 #12
Noooooo... My life is over. Xyzse May 2016 #13
some of the items on the list are fine Mosby May 2016 #17
This link below is one of my favorites Person 2713 May 2016 #18
I hope I didn't ruin anyone's weekend ailsagirl May 2016 #20
You're going straight to hell for this!!! pinboy3niner May 2016 #31
Yikes!! ailsagirl May 2016 #33
Many of the items were on there because of salt Major Nikon May 2016 #21
I agree TexasBushwhacker May 2016 #39
We're all going to die. bigwillq May 2016 #22
I stopped reading after 12 itsrobert May 2016 #26
The First Rule of Healthy Eating: The Velveteen Ocelot May 2016 #27
Read nutrition labels where available, folks! nt SusanCalvin May 2016 #28
Goodbye Cruel World Feathery Scout May 2016 #29
ACK! There are only 6 things on that list I don't eat xloadiex May 2016 #32
Avoid trans fats, salt, and most sugar and you'll be just fine Warpy May 2016 #34
I agree with most of the items on that list. However... GliderGuider May 2016 #35
Cheese?! abelenkpe May 2016 #36
My 2 favorite... 3catwoman3 May 2016 #37
Lucky you, 3catwoman3! ailsagirl May 2016 #38
I will freely admit to some basic... 3catwoman3 May 2016 #48
Beginning in 2018, there will be new nutrition labels required dixiegrrrrl May 2016 #40
The food police have another list again. hobbit709 May 2016 #41
Fuck. flying rabbit May 2016 #43
Damn. I'm about 24 out of 30. aikoaiko May 2016 #44
Since when is cottage cheese a "breakfast staple"? Scuba May 2016 #45
I have never eaten it for breakfast kdmorris May 2016 #47

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
46. It is about 2.5 % if done properly.
Sun May 22, 2016, 08:43 AM
May 2016

I make lots of cured meats like salami and bresoala, even pancetta.

The thing is, these products were made to be eaten in small portions by design.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
14. In general terms, yes.
Sat May 21, 2016, 05:29 PM
May 2016

Too many are addicted to their taste buds. They lust after food in the same way a gambler lusts after the money wheel.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

yewberry

(6,530 posts)
9. Wow, I braced myself for the worst.
Sat May 21, 2016, 04:49 PM
May 2016

There's almost nothing on that list that I would eat. No that you'd know it by my blood pressure...

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
10. I would rather have one rib eye a month
Sat May 21, 2016, 04:56 PM
May 2016

than six sirloins a month. The only steaks I eat are rib eye, but I only have one every 2 months or so. Ketchup, however, I use a lot.

shanti

(21,675 posts)
23. mmmm, ribeye!
Sat May 21, 2016, 07:13 PM
May 2016

my favorite cut of beef. have you ever had a chuck eye steak? just about as tender as a ribeye, but much cheaper. check it out sometime...

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
24. No, I have not...
Sat May 21, 2016, 07:27 PM
May 2016

I will be on the lookout for it. Ribeye prices are getting out of control, which is the main reason I scaled back on them. I am going to pick up some skirt steak for fajitas tomorrow, so I will keep an eye out for chuck eye.

shanti

(21,675 posts)
25. one more thing
Sat May 21, 2016, 07:30 PM
May 2016

it's not particularly easy to find, so if you don't see it, ask the butcher. i was told that it is a cut that the butchers don't often sell, but keep for themselves. that says a lot!

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
30. Yeah, I need to find a butcher...
Sat May 21, 2016, 07:39 PM
May 2016

someone told me about hanger steak, but none of the grocery stores have it. Thanks for the info

Mosby

(16,328 posts)
17. some of the items on the list are fine
Sat May 21, 2016, 05:55 PM
May 2016

Cottage cheese is good for you, it's a prebiotic.

French fries, steak, cheeses and juices just need to be eaten in moderation.

And there is not a damn thing wrong with white rice.

ailsagirl

(22,897 posts)
20. I hope I didn't ruin anyone's weekend
Sat May 21, 2016, 06:37 PM
May 2016

I did see some items I do eat:

potato chips (I've loved them for many years-- too late to stop now)

cold cuts (very occasionally)

french fries (I love but rarely have them)

It's a good website with lots of interesting info.


TexasBushwhacker

(20,205 posts)
39. I agree
Sat May 21, 2016, 10:29 PM
May 2016

In fact some people avoid sodium so much that they have too little and that can be as bad as too much. I do wish that they put the potassium content on foods as well as sodium. It's all about balance. Same goes for magnesium and calcium.

xloadiex

(628 posts)
32. ACK! There are only 6 things on that list I don't eat
Sat May 21, 2016, 07:43 PM
May 2016

Canned vegetables….though I do love cream corn but my husband doesn't.

Frozen dinners….never

Frozen Pies, I make my own but I will devour any bakery goods I can get my hands on.

Margarine…..Only butter for me.

bouillon cubes

Diet Soda…I rarely drink any kind of pop. even then it's just a few sips.


I'm a goner.





Warpy

(111,305 posts)
34. Avoid trans fats, salt, and most sugar and you'll be just fine
Sat May 21, 2016, 07:56 PM
May 2016

I do question some of them: white rice, diet soda, the blanket condemnation of Chinese food.

The latter is fine if you avoid the deep fried and most of the sweet and sour stuff. Most restaurants use soybean oil instead of heavier fats but you still want to avoid as much grease as possible, even good grease.

Diet soda only seems to be a problem for people who think it allows them to overindulge in other areas.

White rice isn't bad, it's vitamin fortified here in the US. What you put on it seems to be the problem. It's like saying bread and pasta are problems, it's what you put on them that matters.

I do notice butter is finally off the list and margarine is on it. I feel vindicated with that one.

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
35. I agree with most of the items on that list. However...
Sat May 21, 2016, 08:23 PM
May 2016

The condemnation of bacon, sausage and steak is based on debunked nutritional mythology. The 40 year old demonization of saturated fats that was rammed down the throats of Americans by Ancel Keys and George McGovern in the 1970s is coming to an ignominious end at long last.

As an aside, salt isn't an issue on a diet that's high in fatty meats and low in carbs. Such a diet stimulates natriuresis, the excretion of excess sodium.

Celery and beets, for instance, contain far more nitrates than are found in processed meat, and our saliva converts them to nitrites..

The Real Truth About Nitrates

Most people may assume nitrates are only found in processed or cured meats. The truth is that plant-based foods such as beets, celery, cabbage and other leafy greens account for 80% of the dietary intake of nitrates. And it is the consumption of these foods where research is looking for health benefits. Let’s face it – no one is going to research a hot dog for its health benefits.

So here is where it gets interesting. Nitrates are converted to nitrite by bacteria is our saliva and then is further converted to nitric oxide (NO) when mixed with our stomach acid. Nitric oxide is a potent vasodilator and has been linked to lowering blood pressure and increasing the response of the immune system. It also helps with sleep, lowering inflammation, assists gastric motility and improves our sense of smell. Nitric oxide can also be oxidized by enzymes and converted back to nitrite in the body which has been linked aiding athletic performance.

One study found that beetroot juice, high in nitrates, reduces the expenditure of oxygen and increased endurance in athletes when consumed over a six day period. Blood levels of nitrite were considerably higher on days 4-6 and systolic blood pressure was lower. So just to be clear, as the nitrate/nitrite thing gets confusing, they consumed nitrates in the beet juice but it was nitrite by the time it got into their blood.

It's the excessive consumption of sugars and starches that are killing us, not the meat.

3catwoman3

(24,023 posts)
37. My 2 favorite...
Sat May 21, 2016, 09:55 PM
May 2016

...indulgences are potato chips and shortbread cookies (Walker's from Scotland). Gotta go from something.

I walk 3-5 miles every day, and go to an exercise class 4 days a week, so I hope it all balances out.

ailsagirl

(22,897 posts)
38. Lucky you, 3catwoman3!
Sat May 21, 2016, 10:19 PM
May 2016

I bet you can eat any "forbidden" food with impunity!! Sounds like you have everything balanced.
I'm still working on that.

3catwoman3

(24,023 posts)
48. I will freely admit to some basic...
Mon May 23, 2016, 12:35 AM
May 2016

...genetic good luck in basic body type, but now that I am 65, I am having to work harder to maintain it. There is a sign up at the gym I go to that is very motivating -


You can't get
The ass you want
Sitting on
The ass you have.

So true, so true.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
40. Beginning in 2018, there will be new nutrition labels required
Sat May 21, 2016, 11:10 PM
May 2016

One of the changes will be listing of "added sugar"
I hope they are doing same with salt.

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
41. The food police have another list again.
Sat May 21, 2016, 11:17 PM
May 2016

The jerky my neighbor makes has hardly any salt but lots of ground chiles.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
45. Since when is cottage cheese a "breakfast staple"?
Sun May 22, 2016, 07:59 AM
May 2016

This list seems to be all about salt, which is necessary for life. If you have high blood pressure, limit your salt intake. Otherwise, enjoy.

kdmorris

(5,649 posts)
47. I have never eaten it for breakfast
Sun May 22, 2016, 09:43 AM
May 2016

and since when does it look like THAT? I once thought that salt was a bad thing and went on a low salt diet... with caused weirdness with my heart and super low blood pressure...92/52.


As you say, if your blood pressure is high... limit salt... otherwise, enjoy. It turns out that salt isn't really as bad for you as we've been led to believe:

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/its-time-to-end-the-war-on-salt/

Article doesn't seem to talk at all about cholesterol or carbohydrates - which, when not eaten in moderation, can also damage your heart, especially if you have Diabetes.

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