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roody

(10,849 posts)
Sun May 22, 2016, 11:29 PM May 2016

The word "douche'

To a woman suffering an itchy yeast infection, a douche is a wonderful relief. A douche is a good thing and so is the douche bag you can use to give yourself a douche. A douche is also a shower. Using this word to insult is stupid and sexist. I guess a douche is bad because it touches a woman's vagina.

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The word "douche' (Original Post) roody May 2016 OP
Would "used douche" be acceptable? JackInGreen May 2016 #1
Used douche is the water that has roody May 2016 #5
If I'm calling them used vaginal wash water JackInGreen May 2016 #11
It's a shame Mike Huckabee isn't saltpoint May 2016 #2
Can't we at least call him a dick? Major Nikon May 2016 #4
: ) eom saltpoint May 2016 #7
No. Douching is bad because it washes away normal vaginal flora. Aristus May 2016 #3
Flora kinda sounds like potpourri Major Nikon May 2016 #6
I haven't needed it for many years, roody May 2016 #8
That's correct, it's just not an accepted practice anymore. And douche, in the rest of the world underahedgerow May 2016 #17
A friend of mine lives in Germany. Hassin Bin Sober May 2016 #18
Ineffective at best, harmful at worst. Lilyhoney May 2016 #32
I'll refer you to Janeane Garofolo. roamer65 May 2016 #9
WTF? abelenkpe May 2016 #10
I think it's gaining in popularity with the Trump campaign Major Nikon May 2016 #12
nobody calls anyone a douche, people like Trump are a douchebag snooper2 May 2016 #21
whatever................. Demonaut May 2016 #13
It's not what you think. herding cats May 2016 #14
anything specifically female is a guaranteed insult among lots of folks. nothing new there. nt TheFrenchRazor May 2016 #15
I had been reluctant to reference South Park's... moriah May 2016 #16
I resolve to use "dirtbag" in the future as the need arises. yellowcanine May 2016 #19
Nope blogslut May 2016 #20
Not sexist. Don't care who thinks it is. Still using it. phleshdef May 2016 #22
I blame conversations about sexism and word usage on the mythical 'word police' as well. LanternWaste May 2016 #23
a douche is never good. it's not good for your health. La Lioness Priyanka May 2016 #24
Words have multiple meanings! Blue_Adept May 2016 #25
Epithet used in WWII MosheFeingold May 2016 #26
For further meaning MosheFeingold May 2016 #28
thanks...ya learn something new everyday nt. Jack Bone May 2016 #29
Fascinating word history. 3catwoman3 May 2016 #30
To stir things up MosheFeingold May 2016 #31
I will give myself props for knowing the meaning of... 3catwoman3 May 2016 #33
What a wonderfully... 3catwoman3 May 2016 #36
I have a pretty thick accent MosheFeingold May 2016 #39
We are on the brink of having trump fuck our country up, Iraq is fighting hard in fallujah The Straight Story May 2016 #27
Can't... resist... urge... to... post... Gidney N Cloyd May 2016 #34
Agreed. milestogo May 2016 #35
"...since there can be nothing more disgusting that a woman's vagina." 3catwoman3 May 2016 #37
Like MosheFeingold May 2016 #38
99.9% of people are throwing around the douchebag insult milestogo May 2016 #40

roody

(10,849 posts)
5. Used douche is the water that has
Sun May 22, 2016, 11:39 PM
May 2016

cleaned a vagina and carries away the yeasties and bacteria. Is that what you want to call someone?

saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
2. It's a shame Mike Huckabee isn't
Sun May 22, 2016, 11:36 PM
May 2016

still in the Republican primary race. It would be illuminating to ask him about this at a town hall.

Aristus

(66,388 posts)
3. No. Douching is bad because it washes away normal vaginal flora.
Sun May 22, 2016, 11:36 PM
May 2016

Flora is good bacteria. In clinical medicine, we call it 'flora' because if we call it bacteria, people freak out.

But it's good bacteria. You want it to be there. It keeps bad bacteria away. Douching can leave you vulnerable to all kinds of vaginal infections; UTI's, bacterial vaginosis, and even yeast infections. When you have a yeast infection, douching is like adding fuel to the fire (or technically, eliminating something that can put out the fire, or keep it from becoming worse.) If you have adverse vaginal symptoms, don't douche. Go to the clinic and get examined. They'll put you on the appropriate treatment. And if they are as good at practicing clinical medicine as I am, they'll also tell you to stop douching.

underahedgerow

(1,232 posts)
17. That's correct, it's just not an accepted practice anymore. And douche, in the rest of the world
Mon May 23, 2016, 03:49 AM
May 2016

is just French for 'shower'.

But I guess it's always ok to try to shame anyone for anything relating to genitals, for some reason. Shame on women for having vaginas!!!! Bad, bad women for having vaginas!

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,330 posts)
18. A friend of mine lives in Germany.
Mon May 23, 2016, 04:08 AM
May 2016

He says "Vom douche" is an insult. It means you take warm showers. Tough crowd those Germans.

Lilyhoney

(1,985 posts)
32. Ineffective at best, harmful at worst.
Mon May 23, 2016, 12:07 PM
May 2016

This is my understanding of the current reason to call someone a douche.

Thank you for your comment on douching.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
9. I'll refer you to Janeane Garofolo.
Sun May 22, 2016, 11:43 PM
May 2016

She loved to use that word when referring to the "moron formerly known as President".

abelenkpe

(9,933 posts)
10. WTF?
Sun May 22, 2016, 11:45 PM
May 2016

No.

Do not douche. It's not a relief. It's bad for you.

What rock have been hiding under that you A. Did not know that and B. Have not heard people call someone a douche.

herding cats

(19,565 posts)
14. It's not what you think.
Mon May 23, 2016, 12:02 AM
May 2016

It's an outdated concept which has nothing to do with feminine hygiene in this day and age. It also causes yeast infections, it doesn't help them.

Catch up. It's an increasingly antiquated phrase, since most women 40 and below don't have any personal reference for the phrase.

moriah

(8,311 posts)
16. I had been reluctant to reference South Park's...
Mon May 23, 2016, 03:43 AM
May 2016

"Douche and Turd" episode, despite the fact the likely unpopularity contest in the GE makes it remarkably appropriate, because of potential sexism.

However, douching excessively is unhealthy as the body can clear up even a yeast infection with other medications besides vinegar and water stripping natural lubrication from the vagina. So even if it's sexist because it references something that touches a vajayjay, douches are NOT recommended by any reputable gynecological agency.

But if you'll understand why these snippets are meant, and not be terribly offended....



blogslut

(38,002 posts)
20. Nope
Mon May 23, 2016, 10:58 AM
May 2016

Douching is bad. The whole concept is based in making woman feel shame about their vaginas. If you get a yeast infection there are plenty of topical OTC products that will alleviate discomfort.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
23. I blame conversations about sexism and word usage on the mythical 'word police' as well.
Mon May 23, 2016, 11:31 AM
May 2016

I blame conversations about sexism and word usage on the mythical 'word police' as well. Granted, there's no evidence to really support our allegation, but ours is a battle of righteousness and freedom and doesn't require logic, rational thought or tolerance for anyone.

MosheFeingold

(3,051 posts)
26. Epithet used in WWII
Mon May 23, 2016, 11:41 AM
May 2016

I can't believe I am this old, but no. I was on the ground floor of this insult and saw it grow.

It's a WWII insult, the origin of which was when a quartermaster (or someone) ordered thousands of douche bags instead of whatever he was supposed to order (I think some sort of rubber thing that inflated to stop bleeding), which was obviously next to useless in a military that was 99% male.

It came to mean "unfit for military service" and was applied to recruits that were unfit, usually due to bad attitude, in contrast to 4F, which was physically unable.

After the war, it came to represent men who were unfit for anything serious, generally due to crappy attitude.

So, no, it has only an indirect relation to a woman's vagina and should not be deemed sexist.

MosheFeingold

(3,051 posts)
28. For further meaning
Mon May 23, 2016, 11:43 AM
May 2016

It also just meant "wrong part."

As in, did you get the new head space tool for the Ma Duece?

"No, they just sent us a douche bag."

3catwoman3

(24,007 posts)
33. I will give myself props for knowing the meaning of...
Mon May 23, 2016, 12:09 PM
May 2016

...niggardly. It would be interesting to know what percent of the population does know this word - mighty few, I am guessing.

I once ended a dating relationship with a guy who told me I would "have to stop using such big words." I asked for clarification, and the example he gave was "ambivalent." I had been feeling rather ambivalent about him. After that, I no longer was.

3catwoman3

(24,007 posts)
36. What a wonderfully...
Mon May 23, 2016, 12:24 PM
May 2016

...well-written article in The Root. Thanks for that link.

I find myself, from time to time, dumbing down my vocabulary or my pronunciation, based on my expectation of people's lack of knowledge. I almost never pronounce "err" or "ideology" as they were originally intended, thinking my listeners will think I am the one in error.

MosheFeingold

(3,051 posts)
39. I have a pretty thick accent
Mon May 23, 2016, 12:36 PM
May 2016

Even after all these years. (I was a child in a Polish/German town prior to WWII.)

So I get a pass.

I can do a wonderful Henry Kissinger impression.

The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
27. We are on the brink of having trump fuck our country up, Iraq is fighting hard in fallujah
Mon May 23, 2016, 11:42 AM
May 2016

and you're focused on douches.

Yeah, our party is fucked.

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
35. Agreed.
Mon May 23, 2016, 12:14 PM
May 2016

But I've noticed that sexist remarks are heavily defended on DU. The greatest insult you can throw at a man is to call him a douchebag, since there can be nothing more disgusting that a woman's vagina...

3catwoman3

(24,007 posts)
37. "...since there can be nothing more disgusting that a woman's vagina."
Mon May 23, 2016, 12:27 PM
May 2016

Unless the man in question wants one of his body parts in one.

MosheFeingold

(3,051 posts)
38. Like
Mon May 23, 2016, 12:34 PM
May 2016

Putz, schmuck, tool, dick, etc. aren't also insults.

But, again, see post above explaining the actual etymology of the phrase/term "douche bag"

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
40. 99.9% of people are throwing around the douchebag insult
Mon May 23, 2016, 01:45 PM
May 2016

are associating it with the female body.

The fact that there are also male body part nicknames used as insults is no excuse.

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