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niyad

(113,370 posts)
Mon May 23, 2016, 06:25 PM May 2016

WWII female pilots (WASPS) now can be buried at Arlington (but, there is NO war on women!!)

(the fact that it has taken THIS long, the fact that the patriarchal assholes in charge deemed their service "did not rise to the level required" is beyond disgusting. These women were true sheroes, and the treatment they received at the hands of the govt they served is a true obscenity_

WWII female pilots now can be buried at Arlington










WASPs Ann McClellan, Catherine Houser, Mary Jane Stephens, Lida Dunham and an unidentified woman in their barracks.


President Obama signed a measure allowing WWII female pilots to be buried at Arlington National Cemetery. In 2015, those in the WASP program were deemed ineligible to be buried at the Army-operated cemetery

(CNN)Women who served as pilots during World War II finally can be buried at Arlington National Cemetery, thanks to bipartisan efforts. President Barack Obama signed a bill into law allowing the ashes of woman who flew in the Women Airforce Service Pilots program (WASP) to be laid to rest at the military cemetery.

For Tiffany Miller, who launched an online petition last year to have her grandmother Danforth Harmon's ashes allowed into Arlington, the recent news has been overwhelming.
"It was her last wish to be in Arlington. We haven't been able to hold a funeral for her because we wanted to honor that wish," the 37-year-old told CNN. Harmon's grandmother was fresh out of college when she joined the WASP program in 1944, flying with male pilots who needed to go through instrument training. The 22-year-old was in the program for less than a year before it was dismantled, but the experience had a lasting impact, Miller said.

These original fly girls flew countless U.S. Army Air Forces planes for noncombat missions during the war in order to free up their male counterparts for combat. Between 1942 and 1944, they flew more than 60 million miles in bombers, transports and trainer aircraft.
In 1977, the female pilots were granted veteran status, but it wasn't until 2002 that they were able to be buried at Arlington, which falls under Army regulations, unlike cemeteries operated by the Department of Veterans Affairs.

In 2015, then-Army Secretary John McHugh revoked that right after lawyers determined that those in the WASP program, listed as "active duty designees," did not meet Army eligibility rules. That meant their ashes could no longer be placed in an above-ground structure at Arlington, according to a memo from McHugh that the Miller family obtained under the Freedom of Information Act.

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http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/21/politics/wwii-female-pilots-arlington-cemetery-irpt/

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colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
2. Finally!
Mon May 23, 2016, 08:21 PM
May 2016

Women were heroes too in WWll, making planes or flying them among other tasks. You go gals, wherever you are now!

One_Life_To_Give

(6,036 posts)
3. Honorable but Hero might be a bit much
Tue May 24, 2016, 12:03 AM
May 2016

Audie Murphy was a Hero. Many of the boys on Omaha beach were hero's. These women just like their male counterparts served honorably. But most were denied the opportunity to do something heroic. That makes them Honorable, deserving to be in Arlington, but not Hero's.

niyad

(113,370 posts)
10. wow, way to dismiss these brave women, just as the military has done.
Tue May 24, 2016, 11:43 AM
May 2016

perhaps you could study their records, their achievements, and then say that.

One_Life_To_Give

(6,036 posts)
17. Excuse me for lumping them with all the other Pilots and Air Crews
Thu May 26, 2016, 07:02 AM
May 2016

I hadn't realized they were flying a bomb and planned to parachute out over the target like Joe Kennedy. Or that they singlehandedly captured an enemy held hillside or jumped up on the back of a burning tank to use the Machine Gun to save their fellow soldiers.

Millions pf people served honorably during the war. Giving false valor to people only cheapens what a very few people actually did.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
8. Dogma often reduces a simplistic mind to merely two option
Tue May 24, 2016, 10:46 AM
May 2016

Dogma often reduces a simplistic mind to merely two options. The denial of both nuance and context is convenient for the simple... there's the rub.

 

Albertoo

(2,016 posts)
16. Sure, sure. It's just that the women I know are unaware of that war on them
Wed May 25, 2016, 09:40 AM
May 2016

Maybe because it's an imaginary war?

Orrex

(63,216 posts)
7. I recall your very solid earlier OP on this
Tue May 24, 2016, 07:57 AM
May 2016
HERE.

Seriously, WTF? What a load of unbelievable bullshit. Glad that's finally been remedied, but holy shit what took so long?!? (rhetorical question)

niyad

(113,370 posts)
9. thank you for the link to that previous thread. I did a bit more looking, and found this
Tue May 24, 2016, 11:42 AM
May 2016

interesting line (one wonders why the military felt that the records needed to be sealed.)

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All records of the WASP were classified and sealed for 35 years, so their contributions to the war effort were little known and inaccessible to historians. In 1975, under the leadership of Col. Bruce Arnold, son of General Hap Arnold, the WASP fought the "Battle of Congress" in Washington, D.C., to have the WASP recognized as veterans of World War II. They organized as a group again and tried to gain public support for their official veteran recognition. Finally in 1977, the records were unsealed after an Air Force press release erroneously stated the Air Force was training the first women to fly military aircraft for the U.S.[17]

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_Airforce_Service_Pilots

niyad

(113,370 posts)
11. for those interested in the WASPs, check out the official repository:
Tue May 24, 2016, 11:48 AM
May 2016
http://twudigital.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/landingpage/collection/p214coll2

excerpt fro hap arnold's speech to last class of WASPs

“You and more than 900 of your sisters have shown that you can fly wingtip to wingtip with your brothers. If ever there was a doubt in anyone’s mind that women can become skillful pilots, the WASPs have dispelled that doubt.”
- Gen. Hap Arnold, AAF, in a speech to the last class of WASPs, before the program was disbanded in December 1944.
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