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applegrove

(118,696 posts)
Mon May 23, 2016, 07:53 PM May 2016

One Of The Most Aggressive Gerrymanders In The Country Just Lost In The Supreme Court

One Of The Most Aggressive Gerrymanders In The Country Just Lost In The Supreme Court

by Ian Millhiser at Think Progress

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2016/05/23/3780855/one-aggressive-gerrymanders-country-just-lost-supreme-court/

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Nearly two years ago, a federal court struck down Virginia’s congressional maps, finding that state lawmakers engaged in an unconstitutional racial gerrymander when they packed tens of thousands of African-American voters into the already strongly Democratic district represented by Rep. Bobby Scott (D-VA) — thus effectively diluting the impact of black voters in the state. In 2012, the year of the last presidential race, the state’s gerrymandered maps allowed Republicans to capture 8 of the state’s 11 congressional seats, despite the fact that President Obama won the state by 3 points.

On Monday, the Supreme Court dismissed an appeal brought by three Republican members of Congress who hoped to maintain the old maps. Though the Court’s decision in Wittman v. Personhuballah expresses no view on the merits of the case, it effectively allows the lower court’s order to stand.

That’s good news for Democrats, but also probably not earth-shattering news. In January, the lower court drew new maps for the state that corrects the racial gerrymander in Scott’s district by redrawing that district and a few that surround it. The primary impact of these new maps will be felt in the state’s fourth congressional district, currently represented by Rep. Randy Forbes (R-VA).

According to Forbes’ attorneys, this district will be “completely transform[ed] from a 48% Democratic district into a safe 60% Democratic district.” So that almost certainly means an additional Democratic member of Congress under the new maps.




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One Of The Most Aggressive Gerrymanders In The Country Just Lost In The Supreme Court (Original Post) applegrove May 2016 OP
Thank you SCOTUS and thank you lower Court underthematrix May 2016 #1
And thank you, Fat Tony Scaliar, for leaving this world when you did. forest444 May 2016 #17
Sick of this crap. tazkcmo May 2016 #2
Rather unsubtle! Obvious gerrymander is obvious! MADem May 2016 #3
My congressional... 3catwoman3 May 2016 #4
Roskam is a sort of giant rodent pscot May 2016 #8
Do you live in this... 3catwoman3 May 2016 #10
I used to live in McHenry pscot May 2016 #12
We have lived in... 3catwoman3 May 2016 #13
We used to eat at Simonini's pscot May 2016 #18
This should be a national law, not piecemeal, district by district, state by state. nt procon May 2016 #5
Good point, should be a National Law.Republicans take advantage of slow courts, gerrymander for yrs. Sunlei May 2016 #6
I learned in political science class... RoccoRyg May 2016 #7
Why wouldn't this be a guiding ruling for other gerrymandering cases up and down the ancianita May 2016 #9
Because they didn't issue a ruling, just dismissed the case and allowed wildeyed May 2016 #20
I see. Thank you. ancianita May 2016 #21
1 down. 375 rigged districts to fix. TeamPooka May 2016 #11
Screwing Democrats Out Of Their Vote ---> It's How They Roll scottie55 May 2016 #14
Duplicate subject matter from yesterday. happyslug May 2016 #15
Yes it only righted one wrong sunnystarr May 2016 #22
I think Gerrymanders would be a good name for oddly shaped space alien invaders. tclambert May 2016 #16
This is great news! wildeyed May 2016 #19

forest444

(5,902 posts)
17. And thank you, Fat Tony Scaliar, for leaving this world when you did.
Tue May 24, 2016, 03:12 PM
May 2016

Best thing you ever did for your country, pal.

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tazkcmo

(7,300 posts)
2. Sick of this crap.
Mon May 23, 2016, 08:00 PM
May 2016

Be it Democrats or Republicans doing this, I hate it. If one needs to cheat to win, one needs to do a serious reevaluation of one's self. Thank you for the article.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
3. Rather unsubtle! Obvious gerrymander is obvious!
Mon May 23, 2016, 08:08 PM
May 2016


How nice that the Supremes went along with the lower court!!!

3catwoman3

(24,007 posts)
4. My congressional...
Mon May 23, 2016, 08:17 PM
May 2016

...district, Illinois 6th, looks like a giant jagged letter C that a rodent has been chewing on.

3catwoman3

(24,007 posts)
10. Do you live in this...
Tue May 24, 2016, 12:11 AM
May 2016

...district too?

Apologies to rats - it is an insult to them to compare them to Roskam.

3catwoman3

(24,007 posts)
13. We have lived in...
Tue May 24, 2016, 11:28 AM
May 2016

...Algonquin for 22 years. We moved here from the Wash DC area. Quite the change in terms of diversity, or lack thereof, to be more accurate.

pscot

(21,024 posts)
18. We used to eat at Simonini's
Tue May 24, 2016, 03:30 PM
May 2016

once in a while. I live in the Northwest now. Haven't been back to Illinois in a very long time.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
6. Good point, should be a National Law.Republicans take advantage of slow courts, gerrymander for yrs.
Mon May 23, 2016, 08:41 PM
May 2016

RoccoRyg

(260 posts)
7. I learned in political science class...
Mon May 23, 2016, 08:50 PM
May 2016

That there's two forms of gerrymandering, cracking and packing. Cracking it when you split the voters into separate districts dominated by other types of voters, thus diluting their votes. Packing is when you fit as many of one kind of voter into one district as you can, ensuring the district will go to your party every time. The Supreme Court sometimes throws out maps that show a lot of cracking, but in the past they were more tolerant of packing. It makes you wonder if creating a truly fair district is really possible.

ancianita

(36,095 posts)
9. Why wouldn't this be a guiding ruling for other gerrymandering cases up and down the
Mon May 23, 2016, 09:30 PM
May 2016

judicial circuits' dockets? And thus support all other court re-drawn maps?

If it's a pretty important ruling for other pending cases, it seems pretty important for the General Election, imo.

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
20. Because they didn't issue a ruling, just dismissed the case and allowed
Tue May 24, 2016, 04:09 PM
May 2016

the lower court ruling to stand. Even if they did issue a ruling, it would not be considered precedent because they are one justice short. But it is still VERY good news.

 

scottie55

(1,400 posts)
14. Screwing Democrats Out Of Their Vote ---> It's How They Roll
Tue May 24, 2016, 11:43 AM
May 2016


Absolute Bullshit.

Have a computer draw the maps.
 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
15. Duplicate subject matter from yesterday.
Tue May 24, 2016, 01:44 PM
May 2016
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141461578

If you had gone to that thread, you would have found out the issue was one of STANDING not the merits. The Attorney General of Virginia had REFUSED to file the appeal, and the Supreme Court ruled no one else had standing to continue the case thus dismissed the case.

sunnystarr

(2,638 posts)
22. Yes it only righted one wrong
Tue May 24, 2016, 04:30 PM
May 2016
It is unlikely, however, that this decision will do much to deter future gerrymanders. The state drew unconstitutionally gerrymandered maps, and yet it still got to run two entire elections under those maps. If it takes courts this long to respond to illegal gerrymanders, lawmakers still have a strong incentive to keep drawing unconstitutional maps.
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2016/05/23/3780855/one-aggressive-gerrymanders-country-just-lost-supreme-court/


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