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http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-camp-accidentally-emails-reporter-plan-hit-clinton-whitewaterA Trump campaign plan to target Hillary Clinton over the decades-old Whitewater real estate scandal was made public on Wednesday afternoon when a Trump spokeswoman accidentally included a Politico reporter on the email thread.
According to Politicos report, Trump campaign adviser Michael Caputo emailed a researcher at the Republican National Committee asking him to work up information on HRC/Whitewater as soon as possible. This is for immediate use and for the afternoon talking points process.
Trump campaign spokeswoman Hope Hicks, who was cced on Caputos email, accidentally responded to Politico reporter Marc Caputo instead, making the entire email exchange visible.
RNC chief strategist Sean Spicer defended his committees research team as the best in the business in a statement to Politico.
The Whitewater request, Spicer said in the statement, was just another example of Republican campaigns up and down the ballot looking to us for the best information. Whether its the Trump campaign or top Senate, House or down ballot candidates we will consistently provide them with the resources they need to win.
more at the link
emulatorloo
(44,164 posts)winstars
(4,220 posts)Egnever
(21,506 posts)not because they leak stuff supposedly accidentally but because the only things they have are all old news that has been rehashed a million times. People largely already know most of this stuff and have made up their minds on it. That is why Clintons negative possitive numbers are relatively stable and have been for years.
Trump on the other hand has reams of abhorrent shit in his past that is about to hit him smack in the face, and people largely know none of it. Lots of room to bring him down and he is already in bad shape.
Trump is about to have all his old crap dug up and presented to the world mostly for the first time. Clinton's stuff is mostly old news.
Jackie Wilson Said
(4,176 posts)life or death campaign.
Drumpf will win with the help of millions of obstructed attempted votes if we are not careful.
yellowcanine
(35,701 posts)So far Trump has been skating along on his reputation as a good businessman. But a fair part of his base supporters were likely hurt by the 2008 meltdown. When some of them find out he not only profited on the backs of foreclosed individuals but also actually publicly wished for the crash and then likely ended up paying little or no taxes over the past number of years it is going to bite him.
47of74
(18,470 posts)His reputation as a good businessman is not worth the fools gold he uses to gold plate his shits with. I wish people would see this.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)and a huge reason for his support, I'm sure we'll do our best. The MSM weigh heavily in for the party that is strongly anti-government regulation and taxes, though, which of course means the GOP.
Among all those falling in line behind Trump are undoubtedly most or all of those at the top of the media conglomerates.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)behind the quarter-century-long string of "scandals." For instance so-called "Judicial Watch" funded by the Scaife Foundation that mainly "watches" the Clintons and other liberals by manufacturing whole strings of these things. The Heritage Foundation's involvement, the same one now doing the work of the Kochtopus of hundreds of billionaire/megamillionaires and their organizations, that's supposed to choose our next Supreme Court justices.
Maybe people bored with the scandals themselves might become interested in this giant conspiracy instead.
PJMcK
(22,040 posts)But we've been told by Republicans that we're ridiculous and that there isn't a vast, right-wing conspiracy! (wink)
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)The commercial media's control over the national conservation is broken. Much of the break is filled with propaganda disinformation, of course.
trueblue2007
(17,234 posts)Rump is so stupid.
spanone
(135,857 posts)gratuitous
(82,849 posts)And they'll act like it's the first time they've ever heard of it, and spend a lot of time Demanding Answers (!) from the Clintons, who have never fully explained any of this, and nobody's ever investigated any of it, and there are so many Unanswered Questions that Some People are Just Asking.
If this doesn't revive Ann Coulter's career, nothing will.
titaniumsalute
(4,742 posts)Revealed in 1992. First off the US has short attention spans. In 1992 I was 17 years old. Now I'm 41. I was aware of the whole Whitewater deal mainly because I was a news nerd and listened to talk radio back then. But most people my age and younger have NO IDEA nor do they care about Whitewater.
Roy Rolling
(6,925 posts)Those who do remember, the Whitewater prosecutor was Ken Starr, who recently lost his position at Baylor for a sex scandal coverup. Go ahead, Republicans. Remind people of Whitewater and then let Clinton update the story with Ken Starr's updated resume.
Step in it again...
titaniumsalute
(4,742 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Beaverhausen
(24,470 posts)ThoughtCriminal
(14,047 posts)Yeah, right. Right?
RockaFowler
(7,429 posts)I'm glad that Hillary went after him for his own words and hoping for a recession in 2006
He's the one who is a serial philanderer
He's the one who has bankrupted 4 times
He's the one who defrauded investors
He's the one who used people to get them to go to his Trump University
This man is so Crooked (as he calls Hillary) I'm amazed that he anyone likes him!!!
snooper2
(30,151 posts)LOL-
Spokeswoman Hope Hicks-
AntiBank
(1,339 posts)Last August, she went in-house at the Trump Organization, where Trump eventually chose her for campaign work from the staff of his daughter, Ivanka. (Hicks is currently employed by both the Trump Organization and the political operation, a situation the campaign said was in line with Federal Election Committee rules and guidelines from Trumps attorneys.)
In some ways, Hicks is following in the footsteps of her former boss, Matthew Hiltzik. A Democratic PR operative known for his ties in both politics and the world of Hollywood celebrity, he has worked for both Hillary Clinton and film producer Harvey Weinstein.
The family has important roots in D.C. Hope Hickss maternal grandfather, G.W.F. Dutch Cavender, was assistant administrator for the Department of Agriculture during the Johnson and Nixon administrations, while her maternal grandmother was a bureaucrat at the Department of Transportation.
Her four years of leadership, as captain, provided the groundwork for our program, e-mailed Liz Holmes, Hickss former Lacrosse coach. She is highly intelligent and brought that to the field in every game
Jackie Wilson Said
(4,176 posts)If not, defending Drumpf is all I see.
AntiBank
(1,339 posts)to you whatsoever to call out implied sexism. Trying to coerce me into public disclosure is surely against TOS. You are disgraceful.
Jackie Wilson Said
(4,176 posts)AntiBank
(1,339 posts)buzz off back to your cave
AntiBank
(1,339 posts)defending Trump in ANY fashion or manner. You really have lost the plot.
Darb
(2,807 posts)he hired her because she is attractive. Period. If you think otherwise, bully for you. That's all the above poster was saying. And quite frankly, your gumby twist is a bit telling, IMHO.
AntiBank
(1,339 posts)the statement "she was hired for her looks- period" and stick to that line after evidence of her qualifications is posited is foundationally sexist.
She went toe to toe in public with Trumpfs pit viper campaign head, Corey Lewandowski in a heated fight on a New York street and more than held her own. Lewandowski is a goon who has ran out multiple staffers, yet she remains firmly in place, so she is far from a pretty face helpless doe in the woods.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3600229/Senior-Trump-aides-argue-New-York-street-campaign-roles-Republican-frontrunner-s-team-says-ado-nothing.html
and ps. fuck Trump and bollocks to any bloody suggestion I am defending his trashy arse
Darb
(2,807 posts)IMHO. And with quite an attractive figure I should say, again, IMHO.
Believe whatever you want to, it neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg. I get it though, you are going to bat for women, which is cool. But take a look around at the Trump harem, errrrrrrrr, spokespeople, they are quite an attractive bunch. Of course they are not hired because they are pretty. Of course not. That has nothing at all to do with it. Nothing.
AntiBank
(1,339 posts)Trump is a sexist rotter, indeed, a pure boar. I just have went through this sort of thing in my real life with my partner, who was an international editorial and runway model whilst she went through A Levels, then university, and quit as she started her PhD programme in Econ History. The main reason she quit (at age 24, in the peak years), was to avoid the prejudice and stigma encountered even in academia, even here in Sweden, ffs, which is arguably the most feminist-centred country on the planet, as well as the business private sector, where her intellect was oft-times remarked upon in relation to her looks and her particular avocation.
Darb
(2,807 posts)Attractive people are attractive. Trump wears it on his sleeve. It is obvious that there is a connection with him and his preference for attractive women. He's married three of them and talks about his daughter like she is a race horse.
AntiBank
(1,339 posts)somewhat (even if at a subconscious level) participatory in the "woman as god's sacred vessel" christian claptrap.
http://www.juliabettencourt.com/dev/vesselsdev.html
"...a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use,
and prepared unto every good work." 2 Timothy 2:21
BigDemVoter
(4,154 posts)The entire shebang ended with questions about blow jobs, cigars, and a blue dress. It was a blatant waste of taxpayer money and a bald attempt to make Bill and Hillary look bad.
Bill and Hillary can be rightfully accused of a lot of things, but they were exonerated of any and all accusations relating to financial malfeasance in the Whitewater non-issue.
bjo59
(1,166 posts)Kingofalldems
(38,468 posts)I hope they do bring up Whitewater, an absolute non scandal hyped by Rove and Co.
A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)in fertile minds. If Bernie loses the nomination there are going to be millions and millions of young voters that don't have a candidate and most likely have never heard many of the Clinton stories.
Trump isn't as dumb as many on DU think he is.
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)libodem
(19,288 posts)The Clintons were dogged to death, on this, in the white house.
It's like a mental flogging. Why were Democrats not devious enough to do this to Duyba, night and day while he was in office. Maybe he couldn't have damaged the country as bad if he'd been fighting off countless investigations.
Swear the people must call for endless investigation of Trump should he enter the Whitehouse. His hands must be tied. He can not run amuck like Cheney, with capitalistic plans, for Haliburtons and Blackwaters.
ffr
(22,671 posts)Whitewater now too?
Johonny
(20,872 posts)They found nothing then and we still don't care now.
Democat
(11,617 posts)Or at least Trump's supporters on DU. There are people here who are sure that Clinton killed Vince Foster.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Sorry, but some of the pages linked which provide details of Trumps' scandals have disappeared from the web. Some of my best compilations on DU have also ben scrubbed, but this one is still there. Save it while you can: Bush vs. Gore, the 'Arkansas Project,' the USA firings, and the Swiftboat Admiral
Roger Stone, Iran-Contra, NCPAC, Blackwell, Buchanan, Rove, Sex & Trump's Money ...
How GOP operative Roger Stone destroyed the Reform Party in the 2000 presidential campaign
by Wayne Barrett with special reporting by Jessie Singer
May 18th, 2004 10:00 AM
http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0420,barrett,53586,6.h...
Pat Buchanan ... seized control of ... the Reform Party ... became the party's presidential nominee ... (and) mysteriously disappeared, getting 2.4 million votes less than Ralph Nader, 80,000 less in Florida alone. ... Stone and Buchanan were aides to Nixon and Reagan, and Stone, also a Bush I campaign veteran, was rewarded for his subterranean 2000 efforts with an appointment to the Department of Interior transition team, which he parlayed into a multimillion dollar business as an Indian gaming consultant ....Buchanan's vanishing actafter Stone cajoled him to run Reformleft nearly a dozen party leaders contacted by the Voice convinced that he and Stone were conscious agents of doom. ...
... "Buchanan hospitality suite" at the Dearborn, Michigan, convention hotelwith soda and hamburgers and occasional champagne"was paid for by Roger, who, in turn, said he was covering it with Trump's money." .....
Stone(s) ... sacking of the Reform Party may be his lasting legacy.
Donald Trump, Roger Stone, Jack Abramoff, Gaming Gaming and Scalping the Tribes.
funding of campaigns, one a political dirty trickster who stays behind the scenes and
the other a felonious convict linked to the White House political office, each manage
to garner tens of millions of dollars from Indian tribes in the gaming rackets? By
working both sides at once, of course. And, how is it that one gets convicted and goes
to jail while the other keeps getting paid? Who is scalping whom for how much, who has
lost their scalp, who still has theirs, and will Donald Trump's hair survive the scandals?
With all the attention to Abramoff defrauding the Tribes, why isn't there more attention on
who else is involved in all of gaming's political machinations and influence peddling?
Who has lucrative contracts to receive a percentage of the gross from Indian casinos, and
how did they obtain it? Where is all that money going? How much ends up in the coffers of
politicos like Sen. John McCain, and why? Who else is scalping the Tribes?
And how much of the scalping goes to legal and illegal campaign contributions?
Questions to be answered.
Inside Bush's BIA - A labyrinth manufacturing millions $$$ - Trump, Rove, Norton, Barbour, Brulte
by Wayne Barrett with special reporting by Jennifer Suh
April 27th, 2004 12:20 PM
http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0417,barrett,53013,1.html
... Wayne Smith ... the '90s, he'd been chief deputy to California's Republican attorney general ... at 52, he was assistant deputy secretary at Interior, managing the $3.5 billion budget of the Bureau of Indian Affairs (BIA) and overseeing the hotly politicized Indian casino industry ...
... in his new jobwhich he got on the recommendation of a colleague from his AG days, Sue Wooldridge, top aide to Secretary of the Interior Gale Norton. Neal McCaleb, who was Smith's immediate boss and ran BIA, put him in charge of gaming ... BIA remained a bureaucratic land where the only chiefs are buttoned-down lobbyists, raking in millions from tribes whose casinos are virtually franchises to print influence-peddling largesse.
Smith was troubled early ... his office was lobbied on behalf of two tribes by Diane Allbaugh, the wife of Joe Allbaugh, head of the Federal Emergency Management Agency and the 2000 national campaign manager for Bush. Diane Allbaugh, who worked at a firm headed by former Republican National Committee chair Haley Barbour, appeared on behalf of a Louisiana casino developer under contract with the Jena Band of Choctaw Indians and the Paucatuck Eastern Pequots, a Connecticut tribe then tied to Donald Trump. McCaleb urged Smith to take her calls, explaining that he and Joe Allbaugh were old Oklahoma friends and that Allbaugh had "helped convince the White House" to install him at BIA.
... lobbyist who concerned Smith more than any other ... he'd been on the transition working group for Interior, staffing the agency. The dark force of Indian gaming, retained as a hidden consultant by tribes and developers across the country, was Roger Stone, a veteran of eight Republican presidential campaigns and star of the Miami/Dade recount shutdown. Scott Reed is often his up-front lobbyist face.
... Reed began leaning on Smith in late January 2002. Smith even got a note supporting the Stone faction from the Republican leader of the California state senate, Jim Brulte. Stone had recommended the retention of a consulting firm owned by Brulte's former chief of staff, Tom Ross, and Ross wrote the memo summarizing the Buena Vista case that Brulte enclosed. Later in 2002, Stone would host a fundraiser for Brulte at his 40 Central Park South apartment and take Brulte to visit Stone's longtime client Donald Trump. The Brulte intervention sent a particularly strong message to Smith because he'd attended a 2001 Palm Springs meeting involving Karl Rove and a dozen tribes, where Brulte was introduced as "the administration's main man in Californiaespecially for Indian matters." ...
Swiftboating Al Gore from Argentina, SIDE, Israeli wire transfers, spy files, forgery, Bush & Menem
First get some spy files from Israel, alter them to look like Argentine spy files, make them implicate Bush and Menem in corruption, blame Gore for the forged documents. Sound familiar. Did I mention blackmailing bribed journalists and, of course, the perennial covert Republican dirty tricksters. This genre of dirty trick came to be known as "swiftboating" when done to Kerry four years later by the same players!!
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http://pacer.ca4.uscourts.gov/opinion.pdf/041901.P.pdf
Olavar (Triumph Communications International Group, Plaintiffs-Appellants, v.
Santibañes, Defendant-Appellee, and Ikon Holdings, Inc., t/a Ikon Public Affairs, Dick Morris, Roger Stone, Eileen McGann, John Does, Defendants.
Appeal from the United States District Court Decided: December 1, 2005
Triumph Communications International Group, Incorporated is a corporation that provides political consulting and public relations services and is owned and operated solely by Mattie Lolavar.
In early 2000, Miss Lolavar began discussions with defendant Dick Morris about the possibility of her working with Craig Snyder and defendant Roger Stone, who are partners in defendant IKON Holdings, Inc., another political consulting firm ... about the possibility of Triumph Communications assistance with work that IKON was doing for the government of Argentina.
These discussions lead to two contracts ... and provided that Triumph would act as a public relations consultant to "the Secretary of Intelligence of Argentina" as well as arrange various media events...
Miss Lolavar went to Argentina in August 2000 to assist de Santibañes with preparations for his testimony in Argentine congressional hearings inquiring into allegations that he and the Argentine intelligence agency, known as SIDE, were responsible for bribing various Argentine senators in exchange for political support. Morris and Stone assigned other tasks to Miss Lolavar while she was in Argentina. Among other acts, they instructed her to contact SIDE and obtain a list of journalists who accepted bribes from that organization in order to harm the credibility of those same journalists in reporting on a bribery scandal surrounding de Santibañes and President de la Rua, as well as requiring her to spread false information to the press concerning de la Ruas political opponent, Dr. Carlos Menem. The charges and counter-charges related here are from the papers in the court file, as are the other facts.
A request that occasioned controversy between Miss Lolavar and the defendants was Morris and Stones request that she serve as an intermediary in an anonymous wire transfer of funds to an official in Israel. These funds were to be paid to secure intelligence files from the Israeli government to assist de la Ruas political domestic disputes with Menem, and to imply a corrupt relationship between Menem and George W. Bush, who was then running against Albert Gore for the United States presidency. These files were to be altered by Miss Lolavar to appear to be SIDE documents.
When the defendants became concerned that this plot would be discovered and traced back to them, they ordered Miss Lolavar to orchestrate a press response to blame Vice President Gore for the dissemination of the documents, since it was known to them that the Gore campaign had been attempting to connect Menem with the Bush campaign.
elljay
(1,178 posts)because the targets are not the politically savvy, but the politically ignorant. There are millions of Americans who can name all the Kardashians but who have no idea what is going on in the election. They are not interested in the in-depth investigation of Whitewater, or of anything. They just want three word sound bites. Every single Clinton story, real or fake, will be trotted out this season. The same will happen with Trump. Core supporters will not be swayed at all. The play is for the uncommitted and uninvolved. It will be painful for the rest of us.
NoMoreRepugs
(9,451 posts)my only hope is that a fair portion of the uncommitted and un-involved have above average intelligence and realize this is nonsense
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)He wants to get the Republican red-meat base riled up at the Clintons again. it doesn't matter than the country spent 10s of millions investigating this and nothing came up related to either Clinton. It's to get that low information right winter out there angry enough to get out & vote.
Jeffersons Ghost
(15,235 posts)DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)I am not a friend of Hillary, but of all the dead horses to beat, that one is weak. The meat fell off those bones years ago.
Jackie Wilson Said
(4,176 posts)scandal on the Obama family or White House.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,189 posts)Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Smashing Pumpkins, Stone Temple Pilots, etc.
But Vince Foster and Whitewater?
That's like Jamie Walters and Urkel.
Darb
(2,807 posts)Good gawd they are full of shit. Can you imagine?
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)It's a decoy, made to lull Hillary into thinking all Trump has is old discredited nonsense.
Trump has videos of the Wall Street speeches; he has classified e-mails recovered from her hacked server; he has stuff we don't even know about.
The decoy "leaked" politico e-mail is no accident.
SmittynMo
(3,544 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Have an agenda, just a lying mouth, he is a terrible candidate. The Whitewater occurred before Bill Clinton was elected. Can you imagine the investigations into Trump's business operations?
beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)A game that won't help trump