Boy, with the GOP all solidifying under Trump and the Dems flying all to pieces...

[Kablooie]

I really fear that we will get a Trump presidency.

He's going to say a hell of a lot of things that Americans want to hear. You know and I know they are all lies and he plans to do something totally different if he wins but that won't make any difference to most of the voters. They will hear what they want to hear and it will be trumpeted over and over again by the media until it seems like common knowledge.

On the other side the Dems will probably have a fractured message coming from different factions.
Then Hillary will play the experienced traditional politician which is exactly what nobody wants right now.

Trump will dump on all her weaknesses and discredit her experience while all Hillary can do in response is attack Trump personally since he has no past political record.
It will be very difficult for her to overcome the excitement Trump instills in his followers and soon the whole GOP. An excitement that's only temporary and based on meaningless words but it only has to last until the election. After that Trump will be free to do whatever he wants because voters won't matter to him anymore.

I Just don't have a good feeling about this election.

[vadermike]

1. Ugh

That's what ha me worried too .... Ugh I am scared as all get out Are we toast ?

[Fumesucker]

2. There is one Democratic candidate who isn't a personal friend of Trump

Amazing how connected the top strata in our society is, they all know each other and do each other favors.

[Kablooie]

4. I agree he would be a much better opposition to Trump.

But the chances of him winning at this point are increasingly small.
Not impossible but winning the lottery isn't impossible either but you cant count on it.

[Warren DeMontague]

3. He's got big problems, in that he has alienated a whole shitload of people.

But I agree, we need our nominee- whoever she is, right?- to do more than run on "I'm not Trump" and phone it in with a lot of tired, poll-tested pablum.

Real leadership on everything from the minimum wage to cannabis is what is required IMHO.

[Fumesucker]

5. Cali has a post up mocking a Trump speech

The problem is that a standard American political speech has very little more meaning than a Trump speech does, they are a little more artful but the actual semantic content of the usual American political speech, particularly of Democrats, is as close to zero as the speaker thinks she or he can get away with. I'm looking at you, Hillary.

The politicians have treated the public like fools for most if not all of my adult life and now are wringing their hands that the same public can no longer discern the difference between regular shit, Trump shit and Shinola colored shit?

[Warren DeMontague]

7. My totally unprofessional early assesment is that "I'm not Trump" MAY be enough to get her in the WH

it's hardly the extent of what I'm looking for in a leader, and it's not exactly the most inspiring thing to think about; but like I said, Trump has alienated a metric shit-ton of people. Latinos, for one, are pretty guaranteed to turn out in ridiculous numbers against the guy. And this is the group that Karl Rove was counting on to demographically save the GOP, only 10 or so years ago.

Women, too- Trump is going to have real, serious problems with women, and they do make up a fairly good slice of the electorate, so I'm told.

I don't think there's a good case for either Pollyanna OR Cassandra in this scenario, at least not yet- like I said, way too early- but there is a reason why a lot of GOP poobahs regarded nominating Trump as nothing short of a disaster, to the point where George Will is already talking about 2020.

[Fumesucker]

8. I have no idea why the DU Hillary supporters want to clear the decks so badly

That's exactly what Trump is waiting for, he wants Sanders out of the way before he unloads on Hillary and I bet his oppo research is top drawer.

On the other hand I'm not entirely convinced that Hillary will be the Dem candidate in the general. The PTB know what's happening in the FBI, someone always talks, and if it looks bad for HRC you can bet any portion of your anatomy you wish that Plans Are Being Made for a negative eventuality.

So I understand the establishment desire to get Sanders out but why HRC's supporters do here is a complete mystery.

[brush]

6. Step back and relax, people. Clinton will wipe the floor with Trump.

And so would Sanders but he can't beat her.

The debates will be a shambles for Trump. He knows nothing about nothing but trying to ridicule his opponent. It won't work against Clinton. We saw how calmly she swatted all the repug attacks right back them in the 11 hours of the last Benghazi hearings. It'll be almost comical against Trump.

And are you forgetting the Obama coalition of voters who elected Obama twice?

Sensible progressive whites who don't want Trump appointing the next 3 SCOTUS justices, Latino Americans, African Americans, Asian Americans, gays, Native Americans, women, disabled Americans, sensible left-leaning and moderate independents who also don't want Trump appointing the next 3 SCOTUS justices — these demographic groups will turn out and turn Trump away, just as they did for Obama.

Relax, folks. Get your popcorn ready for the real nominee versus Trump debates, and be sure to turn out and vote in November.

We got this.

[Kablooie]

9. People voted FOR Obama. They will be voting AGAINST Trump.

I'm not sure those two are equivalent.

But I hope it will be apparent soon that you are right.
It's just that American's gullibility has shown itself to be formidable in the past.

[brush]

11. We outnumber them. Just as we did against Romney and his majority of . . .

of the angry, racist vote.

[highprincipleswork]

10. If it's Hillary, almost sure 2 be a disaster. Doesn't have 2 be Hillary, and the voting is not done.

You are right. So easy for Donald Trump to counter program against Hillary.

[pnwmom]

12. A lot of WOMEN WHO VOTE are ready for a smart, "traditional," woman President.

All we have to do is hold the Obama coalition together. And to remind you, Obama won even though majorities of both white men and women went to the GOP.

White women will choose Hillary this time, as long as we don't convince ourselves that her "damn emails" are as important as the future of the planet.

[davidn3600]

14. If Hillary doesn't fix her problem with men...she's toast.

One recent ABC poll shows only 34% of men support Hillary. Even if Hillary runs up the women's vote to 60%, she's going to lose if 70% of men vote against her.

You are assuming the same people who voted for Obama will automatically vote for Hillary. Politics doesn't work that way. Obama lost men by 7 points. Right now Hillary is losing men by 16.

[pnwmom]

15. I'd like to take a look at that poll, if you can locate it. But I think Hillary

getting 70% of the women's vote is just as possible as Trump getting the large majority of men. And there are more women than men voters, so that would mean a win for Hillary.

[davidn3600]

17. Link

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/post-primary-rally-boosts-trump-albeit-challenges-aplenty/story?id=39265102

Clinton has actually LOST support among women over the past few months. And her support among men has plummeted. She's also doing horribly with whites. She's falling behind what Obama got in both demographics. You got that plus a divided Democratic party right now. You don't have the Obama coalition still together. It's falling apart.

[Arkansas Granny]

16. If Dems solidify behind HRC, we'll have nothing to worry about.

Trump is so unpopular with women and minorities that it could be a real upset for the GOP. I also think the many Republicans are going to be very reluctant to vote for Trump, so they either don't vote or they vote for Hillary.