Bundy brothers complain about lack of Internet service

[struggle4progress]

By Maxine Bernstein | The Oregonian/OregonLive
on May 28, 2016 at 7:00 AM
updated May 28, 2016 at 7:02 AM

Ammon Bundy, his brother Ryan Bundy and their co-defendants could have iPads in their jail cells, as long as their attorneys preload the devices with the discovery documents and videos they need to prepare for trial, according to the Multnomah County Sheriff's Office ...

But the jail won't allow Internet access

The Bundy brothers — who are among 26 defendants indicted on federal conspiracy and weapons charges — contend that's insufficient to allow them to prepare for a Sept .7 trial, and suggested in a court filing this week that they may take legal action in state court, alleging violation of their civil rights.

Without the Internet, it would be impossible to access the web-based program Relativity that's being used to review case evidence, the court document says ...

http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/05/bundy_brothers_in_jail_complai.html

[Different Drummer]

1. Playing a very small violin for them. n/t

[underpants]

2. Hold it. People in jail may be hampered in their attempts to get out?

It's like the whole system is stacked against them.

[Nirgendwo]

12. They aren't allowed to have their guns while in jail either. Bummer!

[Wellstone ruled]

3. You can not make this stuff up.

These folks are for real and there are a ton of them in and around Southern Utah and Clark County Nevada. If anyone has encountered this folks,you know were I am coming from. You just can not fix stupid.

[WhiteTara]

4. I guess they don't know being in jail means

you are restricted from your old way of life without many/any privileges. Too bad, boys.

[OldHippieChick]

5. I work w/ Relativity nearly everyday

and though one needs internet access, they can be precluded from using the internet for anything but reviewing their own documents. We all know what they really want, but there is an obvious compromise if the prosecution knows a good tech.

[csziggy]

9. Is there internet in that jail at all - or would it have to be installed?

If as a standard thing there is no internet service in the jail - or maybe no wifi - should the taxpayers have to install it just for the benefit of the Bundys?

What do the other inmates do to see the documents from their attorneys? Apparently this hasn't been an issue before now.

If the software is proprietary and only accessible online can't their lawyers save the documents in a more standard format such as PDF and use what we called sneaker net to carry them in? We did it with floppies, zip drives and CDRs, now it's done with thumb drives.

Why isn't that good enough for the Bundys and their attorneys?

[OldHippieChick]

11. I don't disagree w/ any of your suggestions.

Each jail probably has it's own rules re: internet access.

Yes, Relativity is proprietary and has a serious cost per user, but that could be on the lawyers.

The documents are most probably already in a Word/Excel format and I am hardly expert enough to know the most cost-effective way to view them.

Methinks they simply want internet access to get to their supporters and I was only suggesting there might be a way to have them view Relativity but not allow full internet access. That would resolve any potential Constitutional issues, but keep them from their hidden agenda.

[safeinOhio]

6. Conviction will mean a lifetime

of no internet.

[kentauros]

7. Of that title, "Bundy brothers complain" is all we need to know.

They appear to want to garner the prize for the world's biggest whiners.

[Aristus]

8. These are the red-blooded, ruggedly individualistic, rootin'-tootin', boot-strappin'

Murikkkan males they claim to be?

Jesus, what pathetic whiners...

[Lint Head]

10. Po ittiy bittiy pity for the ittiy bitty Bundys.

[jmowreader]

13. Without the Internet, it will be impossible to rally thousands of sovereign citizens

Let's see...they want guns, the Internet, are probably going to be filing a suit claiming the State of Oregon is violating their God-Given Right to Travel. If I didn't know any better I'd say they're planning to break out of jail and are demanding the state give them the tools to do it.

[meow2u3]

14. Poor widdle insuwwectionists

My hemorrhoids bleed for youse.