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ProudProgressiveNow

(6,129 posts)
Mon May 30, 2016, 06:32 PM May 2016

Godwin's law should be officially suspended during this general election

Godwin's law itself can be used as a distraction, diversion or even as censorship, fallaciously miscasting arguments against Trump as hyperbole when the comparisons to Trump are actually appropriate.

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Godwin's law should be officially suspended during this general election (Original Post) ProudProgressiveNow May 2016 OP
The inventor of "Godwin's Law" says: annabanana May 2016 #1
"... they're not always inappropriate.". Especially when Trump's ex-wife claims ... 99th_Monkey May 2016 #2
"My New Order" ProudProgressiveNow May 2016 #8
A Lot of People Will be Making Comparisons to Hitler This Campaign Season On the Road May 2016 #3
I've never felt any pressure to obey Godwin's law rock May 2016 #4
+1 nt ProudProgressiveNow May 2016 #5
I do appreciate it rock May 2016 #7
No argument here... Wounded Bear May 2016 #6
I'm sure Hitler would have suspended Godwin's law ... JustABozoOnThisBus May 2016 #9

annabanana

(52,791 posts)
1. The inventor of "Godwin's Law" says:
Mon May 30, 2016, 06:38 PM
May 2016
https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/12/14/sure-call-trump-a-nazi-just-make-sure-you-know-what-youre-talking-about/

Sure, call Trump a Nazi. Just make sure you know what you’re talking about.

The inventor of "Godwin's Law" about Hitler comparisons on the Internet says they're not always inappropriate.
 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
2. "... they're not always inappropriate.". Especially when Trump's ex-wife claims ...
Mon May 30, 2016, 07:02 PM
May 2016

that during their time together, Trump had a book that was his favorite and usual
bed-time reader, called "The Complete Collection of Hitler's Speeches", or some such.

It was NOT Mein Kampf. I'm sure he'd read that long ago .. but damn, knowing this
about The Donald really creeps me out.

This --together with Trump's well-known ties to the mob-- does not paint a hopeful
picture, and Hillary is no great shakes either.

Not to damn with faint praise, but she's certainly better than a Nazi-loving borderline
mobster.

On the Road

(20,783 posts)
3. A Lot of People Will be Making Comparisons to Hitler This Campaign Season
Mon May 30, 2016, 08:30 PM
May 2016

despite anything anyone writes.

The effect of these comparisons will depend on whether more people by into them. Perhaps there will be a Daisy Girl ad which blows Trump's chances out of the water. Problem is, many Republicans demonized Trump during the primaries, but failed and may have actually helped Trump win the nomination. Maybe it will be different in the general, but who knows?.

Accusations of the kind we're seeing have historically made by third parties and marginal groups against mainstream candidates. Accusers may think they've hit their mark, but if their audience thinks it's overblown, the speaker just appears small and panicked. NBC, CBS, ABC, and CNN have been painfully evenhanded during most elections, but if this is a common theme they pretty much turn into Fox.



rock

(13,218 posts)
4. I've never felt any pressure to obey Godwin's law
Mon May 30, 2016, 09:32 PM
May 2016

And in fact, I try to work Hitler into an argument as soon as possible. He's the most egregious example of anything I can think of.

Wounded Bear

(58,670 posts)
6. No argument here...
Mon May 30, 2016, 09:51 PM
May 2016

Although I think the proper comparison is to Mussolini. If you look at videos of the two together, you see a lot of the same gestures and mannerisms. Berlusconi comes to mind as well. Trump would probably be more purely fascistic than Nazi-istic IMHO. But that's like the difference between getting your throat cut or your head chopped off. Not much good to be said about either.

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