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all i have been seeing today is a bunch of crap about Hillary and the deaths of the 4 in Benghazi
i want to blast them on all the embassy deaths no one gave a shit about..
Control-Z
(15,682 posts)Where are you seeing the Benghazi crap? I'm sincerely hoping you don't say you're seeing it here on DU.
spanone
(135,832 posts)"During the George W. Bush period, there were 13 attacks on various embassies and consulates around the world. Sixty people died."
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2014/may/12/john-garamendi/prior-benghazi-were-there-13-attacks-embassies-and/
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)SANAA! ISTANBUL! KABUL!
http://www.politifact.com/embassyattacks/
spanone
(135,832 posts)deathrind
(1,786 posts)There were multiple embassy deaths under w and republicans did not say a word about any of them.
HuckleB
(35,773 posts)csziggy
(34,136 posts)Of these 39 attacks, 20 resulted in at least one fatality. (Our complete list is here.) This is higher than Garamendi's claim, though if you only count attacks on embassy and consular property, there were 13.
Garamendi also understated the number of deaths. In the 20 incidents with at least one fatality, the total death toll was 87 -- quite a few more than the 60 Garamendi cited. If you only count those at embassies and consulates proper, the number of deaths drops to 66.
We should note that the vast majority of these deaths were not Americans. We counted 63 deaths that were either of non-Americans or of people whose nationality is unknown. Another three were U.S. civilians. Another 21 were workers at the U.S embassy or consulate, either of American or foreign nationality.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2014/may/12/john-garamendi/prior-benghazi-were-there-13-attacks-embassies-and/
The article does note that there is a major difference - the ambassador died - but it does not count the number of Americans versus embassy staff.
Glamrock
(11,800 posts)but, if memory serves, those killed under W. we're not U.S. citizens....so they obviously don't count in the land of conservabots.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)March 2006 suicide car bombing in Karachi, Pakistan, 20 yards from US Embassy resulted in death of US Ambassador David Foy.
Glamrock
(11,800 posts)Grassy ass
Socal31
(2,484 posts)An increase in discussion of that incident was inevitable. It will fade.
napkinz
(17,199 posts)Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)demtenjeep
(31,997 posts)thank you
spanone
(135,832 posts)how many died for a 'fake' war?
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,412 posts)it only matters when bad stuff happens under Democrats. Does anybody here REALLY think that they wouldn't have demanded impeachment for Al Gore if 9/11 (and all of those embassy attacks) happened on HIS watch? They would be calling for his head if he tried to invade Iraq under flaky pretenses and couldn't find any WMD once we went in. They would have strung him up for the Katrina debacle. The WORST thing that they have on Obama are the Benghazi attacks, which they seem to have elevated beyond even 9/11 and only 4 (count'em 4) people died as opposed to 3000 for 9/11 (and another 4000 to invade, blast apart, and attempt to rebuild Iraq with only the imprisonment/execution of Saddam Hussein to show for it).
napkinz
(17,199 posts)Proud Liberal Dem
(24,412 posts)pretty much sums it up.
trotsky
(49,533 posts)prepare yourself for 4 or 8 more years of this.
deaniac21
(6,747 posts)"Is Benghazi different? Absolutely," said Daveed Gartenstein-Ross, a senior fellow at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies and an adjunct assistant professor in Georgetown Universitys security studies program.
One reason, he said, is that an American ambassador died in the attack, which hadnt happened since the 1970s. Another relevant question, Gartenstein-Ross said, "is whether what happened was put to the American people in an honest manner, not just with respect to the administration, but also with respect to the intelligence community."