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Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
Wed Jun 15, 2016, 07:21 AM Jun 2016

SCORECARD: Trump rips Obama, now John the Moustache rips Obama for ripping Trump

Because, you know, Trump never does any of that. And Trump is not Obama's "political opponent." Obama is President of the United States, while Trump is an orange guy who used to sell inedible steaks over the Internet.



"Snark is not an admirable trait and criticizing your political opponents in a speech to the nation at a time when they want to know what we're doing to protect ourselves from other attacks is beneath the dignity of the office. He's never been qualified to be commander-in-chief," he said.

Bolton argued that the country wants to hear answers from Obama on how future attacks are going to be stopped, not a "lecture" directed at his political rivals.

"I think that's un-presidential. I think it shows the president to be a small man," said Bolton, calling Obama "one of the most narcissistic individuals to ever hold that job."

http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/06/14/bolton-rips-obama-radical-islam-comments-small-man-whos-never-been-qualified
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SCORECARD: Trump rips Obama, now John the Moustache rips Obama for ripping Trump (Original Post) Miles Archer Jun 2016 OP
When GWB was sarcastically looking for WMDs under his desk for the cameras... DetlefK Jun 2016 #1
There's a big difference between "snark" and what Obama said in his speech. Miles Archer Jun 2016 #2
Trump & supporters operate from abusers playbook. Read Lundie Bancroft's work on battering. zazen Jun 2016 #3
fuck john bolton....he's salivating for more middle east war....FUCK HIM spanone Jun 2016 #4
goo goo gahjoob struggle4progress Jun 2016 #5

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
1. When GWB was sarcastically looking for WMDs under his desk for the cameras...
Wed Jun 15, 2016, 07:44 AM
Jun 2016

Did that show that GWB is a snarky, narcisstic man?

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
2. There's a big difference between "snark" and what Obama said in his speech.
Wed Jun 15, 2016, 08:00 AM
Jun 2016

When he made statements like "How is my saying the words "Islamic terrorism" going to change anything, how is that a solution," I didn't see it as snark, I saw it as an honest question.

The closest he came to "snark" was when he referred to Trump indirectly as "politicians who Tweet," because that's all Trump really is, and the whole "I'm going to build a wall between the U.S. and Mexico, and they're going to pay for it, and you'll see, it's going to be a beautiful wall. A beautiful wall" nonsense is nothing more than a relentless self-promoter doing what he does best...promoting himself.

And even with that, I didn't see it as snark, I saw it as "put up or shut up," an acknowledgement that if the only thing the Republicans have to bring to the table as a "solution" is to have Obama say the "magic words," well...he said them, now we can see just how well the Republican "strategy" works.

zazen

(2,978 posts)
3. Trump & supporters operate from abusers playbook. Read Lundie Bancroft's work on battering.
Wed Jun 15, 2016, 09:14 AM
Jun 2016

I grew up with a batterer who was an expert verbal abuser and I've worked in the battered women's movement.

Lundie Bancroft's work on abusive men in relationships (see Why Does He Do That) has been really groundbreaking and he breaks down every strategy they use and why they use it. Trump and his supporters follow it in everything they do.

This is a classic tactic of reversing and crazy making. Accuse her (it's usually her) of exactly what you've done to her when she tries to defend herself, and tell everyone else that lie too (usually in a much more rational, surprised, sensitive tone to suggest you're a harmed, well-meaning victim).

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