Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
 

Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 06:38 PM Jun 2016

Suspension Upheld for Boy Who Chewed Pastry Into Gun Shape

ANNAPOLIS, Md. (AP) -- A judge has upheld the suspension of a Maryland elementary school student who chewed his breakfast pastry into the shape of a gun and pretended to shoot classmates.

Anne Arundel County Circuit Judge Ronald Silkworth ruled this week that the school system could reasonably consider the 7-year-old boy's actions disruptive and a two-day suspension was appropriate.

The Washington Post reports (http://wapo.st/1Q99eHh) that in March 2013 the Brooklyn Park second-grader nibbled his breakfast pastry into the shape of a gun and exclaimed: "Look, I made a gun!"

The incident occurred less than three months after the mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut.

The boy's father says he still want to clear the record of his son, who is now finishing fifth grade, and is considering his next step.

more...

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_PASTRY_GUN_SUSPENSION?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-06-16-17-19-39

30 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Suspension Upheld for Boy Who Chewed Pastry Into Gun Shape (Original Post) Purveyor Jun 2016 OP
When I was in elementary school the teachers ran "cowboys against Indians" games at recess. Nye Bevan Jun 2016 #1
Let me tell you, those of us who were ALWAYS the Indian did not find it much fun. CBGLuthier Jun 2016 #9
Very, very incorrect 1939 Jun 2016 #18
Hopefully this young man learned his lesson. philosslayer Jun 2016 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author Journeyman Jun 2016 #4
Indeed. They need to transfer him to a different school system. n/t PoliticAverse Jun 2016 #8
that'll learn him, darn criminal thug gangbangin 7 yr olds anyway /sarc /nt DustyJoe Jun 2016 #12
Yes, a child is never too young to learn that Nazi scumbags aren't just in black and white films. NutmegYankee Jun 2016 #16
Lesson being that pretend guns are serious business. Crunchy Frog Jun 2016 #19
He even said it was a gun! scscholar Jun 2016 #3
chewing pastry is no violence, shooting a real gun at people is violence /nt DustyJoe Jun 2016 #13
Only two days? sarisataka Jun 2016 #5
And do as the israelis do and bulldoze their house... eom Purveyor Jun 2016 #10
wow SuperDutyTX Jun 2016 #6
Personally, I find the suspension idiotic, but if their rules prohibited gun references, kid loses. Shrike47 Jun 2016 #7
Should only stand if he chewed it into an AR15 or SIG /nt DustyJoe Jun 2016 #11
Ban all guns. No seriously, ALL GUNS. Brickbat Jun 2016 #14
Agree, because it was not clear ... JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2016 #30
Schools have abandoned common sense and instead follow the restrictions to the letter. FLPanhandle Jun 2016 #15
Thinking invites lawsuits. EL34x4 Jun 2016 #21
On the bright side: this story will make a great college entrance essay in a few years. aikoaiko Jun 2016 #17
Come on. You KNOW why the school did this jmowreader Jun 2016 #20
Have to side with the school here. Dr. Strange Jun 2016 #22
That was a military-grade Pop Tart. NT Adrahil Jun 2016 #23
At least he didn't have a salt bagel. n/t PoliticAverse Jun 2016 #26
Our country needs to be ASHAMED of how we sometimes treat our children Stinky The Clown Jun 2016 #24
Damn. He would have gotten life in prison for these then... ChisolmTrailDem Jun 2016 #25
Oh, I miss the really old toys... backscatter712 Jun 2016 #27
So kids are not allowed to even THINK about guns, anymore? Odin2005 Jun 2016 #28
I swear every school administrator is a brain dead coward these days Lee-Lee Jun 2016 #29

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
1. When I was in elementary school the teachers ran "cowboys against Indians" games at recess.
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 06:42 PM
Jun 2016

I guess times have changed.

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
9. Let me tell you, those of us who were ALWAYS the Indian did not find it much fun.
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 07:02 PM
Jun 2016

Trouble with being a few shades redder than anyone else they knew. All the damn times they got cap guns and I got a shitty substitute for a bow and arrow.


But to be serious perhaps this violent culture that we all celebrated a few decades ago is actually not a healthy one.

Response to philosslayer (Reply #2)

NutmegYankee

(16,201 posts)
16. Yes, a child is never too young to learn that Nazi scumbags aren't just in black and white films.
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 08:05 PM
Jun 2016

Sometimes they run schools too.

sarisataka

(18,774 posts)
5. Only two days?
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 06:55 PM
Jun 2016

He should be expelled, his parents fired from their jobs and the family shunned by everyone. They have to learn early there is no tolerance for this sort of foolishness.

Teaching moments are last century. We want Draconian regulation in the 21st century.

SuperDutyTX

(79 posts)
6. wow
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 06:56 PM
Jun 2016

Suspending an (at the time) 2nd/3rd grader for chewing a poptart into the shape of a weapon seems like it would be dramatically more disruptive to the student than maybe sending them to talk with a teacher/admin, and explaining why that's inappropriate behavior.

Hopefully the father isn't dragging his kid through this silliness either.

Politics aside, we're dealing with a child's education here; it seems like a pretty significant over-rotation on the part of the school admins, unless there's something that's not reported in the link.

7 year olds are going to be 7 year olds; it's a time to teach, not expose them to zero tolerance.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,367 posts)
30. Agree, because it was not clear ...
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 09:20 AM
Jun 2016

... whether the kid chewed a pop-tart into the shape of a revolver, or a semi-automatic with high-capacity magazine.

Banning all guns, as well as pop-tarts (the raw material from which guns are made), is the only safe play. For the children.

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
15. Schools have abandoned common sense and instead follow the restrictions to the letter.
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 08:01 PM
Jun 2016

Sad. No thinking allow.

 

EL34x4

(2,003 posts)
21. Thinking invites lawsuits.
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 08:42 PM
Jun 2016

"How come my kid got suspended and that other kid didn't?"

Much easier to just kick 'em all out and still have a job at the end of the day.

jmowreader

(50,562 posts)
20. Come on. You KNOW why the school did this
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 08:35 PM
Jun 2016

If they don't suspend, or expel, THIS kid, they'll get sued if they expel the kid who brings a real gun to school.
"But you didn't take drastic action against Johnny Smith when he had a gun infraction. I'm going to own everything you have because I'm going to sue you for discrimination."
'Johnny Smith had a pop-tart and was pretending to shoot classmates. Your kid had a loaded Beretta and was going to kill them. Big difference.'
"No difference at all. Lawyer up."

Dr. Strange

(25,925 posts)
22. Have to side with the school here.
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 08:49 PM
Jun 2016

It was an assault pastry. We need to stand up to the National Pastry Association. Civilians don't need pop tarts--only cops should have donuts.

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
29. I swear every school administrator is a brain dead coward these days
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 08:58 AM
Jun 2016

No common sense. That same mentality is what leads to schools calling cops into the classroom to handle classroom discipline because the teachers and administrators are too chickenshit to do their jobs.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Suspension Upheld for Boy...