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"10 Reasons Why I Don’t Know What Century I’m In" (Original Post) muriel_volestrangler Jun 2012 OP
This is incredible. Thank you for posting. yardwork Jun 2012 #1
Well, that's just fucking depressing. progressoid Jun 2012 #2
Thank you for posting this. snacker Jun 2012 #3
That is unconscionable at any time, let alone after all this time of working to rectify the RC Jun 2012 #4
This is why it is so excellent that there is an internet truedelphi Jun 2012 #5
Sadly, chervilant Jun 2012 #20
I am sure you are in good company. truedelphi Jun 2012 #21
Indeed... chervilant Jun 2012 #29
Amazing how many men are experts on every facet of a woman's life. BlueJazz Jun 2012 #6
It's authoritarian abuse and discrimination. The country is so damn RKP5637 Jun 2012 #7
Recommending this thread and article citysyde Jun 2012 #8
USA Today isn't a newspaper. HopeHoops Jun 2012 #9
Except that both of those media sources have a huge... citysyde Jun 2012 #10
So does "Hustler", but is it "art"? HopeHoops Jun 2012 #11
Point well taken! I just worry, like you do.. citysyde Jun 2012 #12
"This really happened..." HopeHoops Jun 2012 #13
The gender war is manufactured to keep us divided too. lunatica Jun 2012 #14
This nation belongs to very wealthy and politically powerful white men. hunter Jun 2012 #15
Agree with all your points, but some women are not truedelphi Jun 2012 #26
Just flat out awful... horseshoecrab Jun 2012 #16
K&R! gateley Jun 2012 #17
Hey,if you combine the 4 donut graphs, women are represented 88% of the time. So what's the problem? Orrex Jun 2012 #18
That just shows that women aren't speaking up. TahitiNut Jun 2012 #19
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jun 2012 #22
Can you imagine Maddow guest hosting Meet The Press? Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2012 #23
Yikes! That would be so amazing. n/t truedelphi Jun 2012 #27
MSMedia = pure propaganda, they have no interest in any actual discussions or truth just1voice Jun 2012 #24
So what else is new? This has been reported on since the 1960s happyslug Jun 2012 #25
Am enjoying your analysis. Thank you! n/t truedelphi Jun 2012 #28
 

RC

(25,592 posts)
4. That is unconscionable at any time, let alone after all this time of working to rectify the
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 03:23 PM
Jun 2012
equitably
Basically, this implies that women are still only good for serfs and servants. No, they're not. They are the mothers, sisters, daughters, wifes, friends, neighbors, to the fathers, brothers, sons, husbands, friends, neighbors. There is no real reason why we cannot all have the same Rights.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
5. This is why it is so excellent that there is an internet
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 03:30 PM
Jun 2012

up and running. the internet is blind to your family connections. It is blind to your wealth or lack of wealth.

And it could care less about gender.



chervilant

(8,267 posts)
20. Sadly,
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 09:32 AM
Jun 2012

and ironically, whenever I make a cogent argument online, I am perceived to be a man. When I self-identify as a woman to those who are engaged in the argument, I usually get called a cunt.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
21. I am sure you are in good company.
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 01:38 PM
Jun 2012

I can only imagine what Ariana of Huffington Post gets called, or Joan Walsh.

Of course, Rachel Maddow can handle the discourse so brilliantly that she probably tosses any insults right back at 'em, before they know what hit them.

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
29. Indeed...
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 07:32 AM
Jun 2012

In fact, one of my original 'insults' resulted in my first 'hidden post' (a rather ineffective slap on the wrist, methinks, since all can still see these hidden posts).

BTW, I have remarked before on the sexism and misogyny that is seldom addressed here on DU. In fact, remarking on the sexism and misogyny on DU brings out the rabid deniers, who expend incredible amounts of energy denigrating anyone who suggests that DU has its fair share of sexism or misogyny. Sadly, the irony escapes them...

 

BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
6. Amazing how many men are experts on every facet of a woman's life.
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 03:43 PM
Jun 2012

They know all, see all and (try) to control all.

On a much harsher and funnier note, I like what Richard Pryor said about women who have little power.

"Look.. you sons-a-bitches...we got all the pussy and from now on you do things
OUR way, which includes no war, farting and belching or sleep on the fucking couch"

RKP5637

(67,108 posts)
7. It's authoritarian abuse and discrimination. The country is so damn
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 04:11 PM
Jun 2012

backward in so many ways. It's a country that has a history of authoritarian abuse and discrimination against many people, and then brags about equality to the rest of the world. It's often an absolute load of BS, all of this equality crap. Bigotry and discrimination run far and wide in the US.



 

citysyde

(74 posts)
8. Recommending this thread and article
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 04:45 PM
Jun 2012

The article is excellent in pointing out the shameful media we have in America.

That is what passes for legitimate media coverage?

I am embarrassed to be a man living in a nation with a biased media that does this to women.

 

citysyde

(74 posts)
10. Except that both of those media sources have a huge...
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 04:48 PM
Jun 2012

influence upon American voters, particularly men.

 

citysyde

(74 posts)
12. Point well taken! I just worry, like you do..
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 04:58 PM
Jun 2012

that Hustler magazine readers think they are in an art museum, to carry your point all the way.

No, obviously, poor journalism is just that. It misinforms millions of voters.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
14. The gender war is manufactured to keep us divided too.
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 05:03 PM
Jun 2012

It's part of their pining for the good old days when there was the much vaunted Battle of The Sexes. A phrase that oddly enough stopped when women were given equal rights. They want it back so their misogyny can be justified.

hunter

(38,313 posts)
15. This nation belongs to very wealthy and politically powerful white men.
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 05:38 PM
Jun 2012

We all serve at their pleasure.

You are free to say whatever you like so long as you cause them no trouble.

But if you start to cause them trouble they will buy you off or shut you out.

Women have been shut out.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
26. Agree with all your points, but some women are not
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 10:07 PM
Jun 2012

Shut out.

I mean, Michelle Bachman and Sarah Palin can be dumber than a bag of nails and mis-speak sixteen ways between Sundays, and yet their Party and the Republican-controlled media seems to encourage
them.

Orrex

(63,212 posts)
18. Hey,if you combine the 4 donut graphs, women are represented 88% of the time. So what's the problem?
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 06:43 AM
Jun 2012

Of course, that means that mean are represented 275% of the time, so...

 

just1voice

(1,362 posts)
24. MSMedia = pure propaganda, they have no interest in any actual discussions or truth
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 02:16 PM
Jun 2012

The MSMedia only cares about money and how much they can make for themselves.

 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
25. So what else is new? This has been reported on since the 1960s
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 05:31 PM
Jun 2012

When I was in Law School in the late 1980s it was reported that Professors were known to call on MALE more then FEMALES and that was true of even FEMALE Professors (And when a Pro Equal Rights female professor disagreed, was shown she did the same, even as she claimed she made a different effort to call on women, the results actual shocked her).

One of the problems is that when looking for assistance, people seem to instinctively go to taller people over shorter people, "Less fat" people over "fatter" people. Older people over younger people AND in the order I use, taller first, amount of fat second, older third.

It is unclear when being female or male fitted into this pattern. The reason being males tend to be taller, AND women tend to be 25% fat while males tend to be 15% if in top physical condition (Thus these two differences may explain why males are preferred over females independent of sex).

A major complication is that at that time (the 1980s) most of the older people in any profession were almost all males (All females did NOT drop out of the work force in the post-WWII era, but the trend was to reduce such female employment, this only changed in the 1960s, so a lot of "older" people in the 1960s to 1990s tended to be males, while less true today still a factor.

The above is known to most people in the Media and people who constantly use the Media. Thus it is NOT uncommon to have a front man being at least six feet tall (mostly men). There is a limit to tallness, it appears to be about 6 foot 4 inches, you start to get taller then that most people view of you as someone who they look up to declines. Similar problems with fat, if you go under the natural limits of fat (25% for Females, 15% for males), people's view as you being a person to be trusted declines, the same with old age, getting to old (80 plus) is more hindrance then a help.

Thus you MAY have an explanation for the above INDEPENDENT OF sex (through interrelated to sex). If that is the case HOW do you resolve the problem? i.e. how do you get people to listen to a SHORTER WOMAN over a TALLER MAN, when the trend is the opposite? Is an organization willing to give the opposition an edge, just because they also want to show they treat women equal to men?

Please note I did NOT mention that men have lower voices then women. While that use to be a MAJOR factor, since the invention of the microphone not much of a factor nowadays. Males lower voices carry further then women's high pitch thus in the days of pre-microphones an important advantage of males over females. Present theory states that males developed lower voices so to communicate over longer distances, while giving up the ability to be more precisely located. Women and children have higher pitch for higher pitch voices are quicker to locate.

Why males have lower voices then women is unimportant for this discussion, just pointing out the differences in HOW far the voice can carry do to its pitch was a major factor in premicrophone days, but is of much less importance today.

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