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a question adressed to the UK Duers: Re brexit (Original Post) DonCoquixote Jun 2016 OP
My two cents.. pkdu Jun 2016 #1
It's not England Corporate666 Jun 2016 #2
1) slightly under 50% chance of leaving muriel_volestrangler Jun 2016 #3
Almost exactly 50/50; in a couple of years time. Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2016 #4

pkdu

(3,977 posts)
1. My two cents..
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 06:42 PM
Jun 2016

a. It could pass the referendum ...its polling 50/50 so will likely be close...will it actually happen - No , pretty sure it wont because..
b. Absolute Chaos - Scotland would demand another referendum on leaving the UK ( and staying in Europe) - Passports , Border controls , Tariffs , International Trade costs , EU Banking and Trading center would move to Frankfurt....as I said , chaos.

Corporate666

(587 posts)
2. It's not England
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 07:32 PM
Jun 2016

It's BRITAIN.

England is to Britain what California is to the USA.

The vote is close. The polls mostly show leaving will win by a narrow margin, although the odds makers show remaining is favored. We will know in a day or two.

As for what happens, if they vote to leave, a process will begin for them to exit the EU. Not very much will change - the UK existed before the EU and if will exist the same post-EU, if it happens.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,322 posts)
3. 1) slightly under 50% chance of leaving
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 07:37 PM
Jun 2016

The polls tend to point to Leave winning; but it's hard to calibrate them since they can't compare to a previous referendum on such a topic, in the internet age. Phone and online polls have usually differed, with online looking more like a Leave win, but with both trending that way:



but betting/prognosticating has consistently thought Remain will win. See http://predictwise.com/politics/uk-politics (they put 'Remain' as 'Yes', and has been between 60% and 80%, currently at 75%).

2) Nobody knows. The way for a country to leave the EU is meant to be a formal declaration of intent, which kicks off a 2 year long negotiation on how it all happens, which can only be prolonged if every single member country agrees to. Cameron, the PM, said he'd make the declaration quickly if he lost the referendum.

Scotland might demand another referendum on independence if they are significantly in favour of the EU but the overall UK votes Leave. There's a good chance Cameron will resign or get kicked out by the Tories, and Boris Johnson is the bookies' favourite to be next Tory leader, and thus PM, if that happens (which was once seen as a literal joke. Until people realised it might happen). Who knows what happens to TTIP negotiations; many of the Brexit leaders are insanely pro-free trade, as long as they don't have to let EU workers into the UK. Multinational companies won't see the UK as a convenient English-speaking base for the EU, so will stop setting up branches here. Trade with the EU could get completely fucked up, or could continue almost as if nothing had changed. Nobody knows.

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