Pro-Brexit politicians admit that campaign-promises were lies and won't be fulfilled.

[DetlefK]

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/nigel-farage-good-morning-britain-eu-referendum-brexit-350-nhs_uk_576d0aa3e4b08d2c5638fc17?sv5nrk9

A key promise was that the UK would save 350 million per week if it were to leave the EU and that this money would be put into healthcare and schools. (The claim was repeatedly disputed by several economic experts.)
That slogan was printed on the fucking campaign-bus.

Yeah... No... Nigel Farage admitted on TV that this promise was bullshit.

Another key promise was that the UK would be able to drastically reduce immigration.

Yeah... No... Brexit-supporting parliamentarian Daniel Hannan has admitted that immigration won't actually go down after the Brexit.

[uponit7771]

1. yeap, just posted an OP along these lines... tRump and Putin supported Brexit that's all

... some people need to know about it.

Both of those guys are fuckin grifty human supremacist type of folk

[DemonGoddess]

2. Of course they admit it now after they won n/t

[Raster]

3. Isn't that always the way it goes?

Smooth talk, clever lies and half-truths obfuscate the reality... until of course THEY get what they want...

[sendero]

4. They couldn't have out-lied..

... the Bremain folks if they tried.

Look, I know it sucks when the people win and the oligarchs, bureaucrats and media liars lose, but the universe favors the righteous from time to time.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

8. Come on, cough up some facts & credible references for your outrageous statement about lieing.

The OP has facts and credible references.

Ball is in your court. If you have any facts & credible references to back up your opinion.

Further, there is nothing righteous about right-wing anti-immigrant fear-mongering and us-versus-them anti-cooperation.

[sendero]

9. Idiotic...

... claims of massive depression, unemployment etc. Pure lies. No one know what will actually happen, least of all fuckwad politicians whose only reason to wish to Bremain is their own self interest.

Seriously, if you think the Bremain forces did less blatant fearmongering than the Brexit folks, you really were not paying attention. The BBC and virtually all MSM were trumpeting Bremain 24/7 and 90% of their message was fear.

It's all out there, Google it.

[DetlefK]

11. And what is that "self-interest" of politicians that you bemoan?

Why would it make a difference for politicians? How are they personally invested in the outcome of this?



And for the economic issue:
How will the economic uncertainty from now until the real Brexit influence the british economy?
How will the british economy fare once the UK has succeeded in making it harder to trade with the EU?
How will the british economy fare in trading with the EU once the UK no longer has a vote on the trading-regulations of the EU?

[sendero]

12. Who knows who cares...

... these folks prove time and again, similarly to our politicians, that their interests lie with big money and big business and no where else. And the bigger the political system the more they can just do whatever and pretend its all out of their control.

You know what I think all these folks are scared of? They are afraid that Greece, Spain, Italy and Portugal are going to tell the EU to get stuffed as they should.

That's what is really driving the panic over Brexit, the banksters are worried.

As for Britain and trade, they have just as much likelihood of coming out better once the dust settles than coming out worse. Britain is a large economy and it will have zero problem finding trade partners IMHO.

[DetlefK]

19. Do you have more to offer than guilt-by-association? Anything???

1.
You know, unlike the US, other countries actually prefer to run their democratic elections in a transparent fashion.
Unlike the US, other countries actually have laws about campaign-donations.
Unlike the US, other countries actually have laws about an intermingling of politics and business.

2.
Pray tell, where would Greece, Spain, Italy and Portugal be without financial support from the EU?

3.
Oh, it was the banksters! Everything is the fault of the banksters!
I'm slowly coming to the conclusion that this preference for partisanship and demonization isn't exclusive to Republicans.

4.
And how did you calculate that both probabilities are equally high? Please describe a scenario in which Britain will be better off and how it will be better off.
Britain is a large economy, but just like the US it is focused on financial markets and a major importer. So far, the EU made it possible for the EU-companies to access the marketplace London in a convenient fashion. What will happen once there are regulatory barriers between the EU and London? How will this affect trade?

Which EU-companies will be willing to jump through the regulatory hoops of the EU and of Britain, when they could find a simpler alternative on the EU-mainland?

And who will those magical new trade-partners be? The US? Switzerland? Russia, Africa, China, India, South-America?

[1StrongBlackMan]

26. Interesting ...

Idiotic ... claims of massive depression, unemployment etc. Pure lies. No one know what will actually happen

How can it, both, be a "lie" AND "No one know what will actually happen"?

Does calling a call about the future a "lie", pre-suppose that the one calling the claim a lie knows what will happen?

[Stellar]

5. Van Jones saw it this way...listen to his video...

https://www.facebook.com/vanjones/videos/vb.30042869909/10154278077469910/?type=2&theater

[LittleGirl]

7. awesome rant, Van Jones. eom

[Stellar]

10. All the polls thought it would NOT happen. All the polls said that Romney would be

the President in 2012. Both polls were wrong. As crazy as Van sounded to me, it says that we should not become complacent. We still need to be reminded that no matter how crazy Trump sounds...there is alway a chance that he could win. We still need to GET OUT THE VOTE!

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

14. Actually, the polls said Obama would win in 2012

Pretty consistently from September on....

[annominous]

22. Yes that's what happened but the goopers fooled themselves

and some of the rest of us by "unskewing" the polls. They really believed their "unskewing" was going to lead them to victory, but they just ended up skewing themselves. Heh. I really enjoyed the outcome in the end, but wasn't sure they were wrong till FoxNews called Ohio for Obama. Ah, the sweet sight of a turdblossom in extremis. I never will forget that moment. Still makes me happy just remembering it. Willard hadn't even prepared a concession speech, that's how skewed he was. Nowadays he's still trying to take the role of White Horse Saviour of the gop. Odd times.

[Stellar]

23. I stand corrected...

I think that there were two polls that had Obama in the win column towards the end and they were the PPP and five thirty-eight polls, right? I just recall watching Rachel Maddow's show, and they were all laughing at the people over at FOX thinking Mitt would win (really too funny), and they kept checking the polls/ the outcome and refreshing their screen.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

25. 538 doesn't do polls

They are a calculation of the polls themselves in the aggregate, which showed Obama winning across the board.

[Bucky]

18. Tho it was only Fox polls predicting a Romney squeaker, your basic point is right

Those low info voters have a tendency to stampede if the right demagogue gets 'em riled up.

[Stellar]

24. hear, hear! nt

[mountain grammy]

13. He sees it and he says it.. Van Jones is the smartest man in America

with this rant. Oh please, people, listen to this!

[Craig234]

16. Van Jones was wrong about the polls

They said the vote was too close to call, not strongly 'no'.

[Native]

6. Oh man, this is becoming exponentially more interesting!

[zentrum]

15. None of them admit their role

Will none of the Brexiter's mention the real reason for the huge number of immigrants? It's the Blair-Bush War in Iraq. That War created a power vacuum into which rushed ISIS, civil war, instability and massive displacement. There wouldn't be these waves of desperate people without the hideous USA/England lead destruction in the Middle East.

This is the blow back, the chickens coming home to roost—of Britain's own meddling. The Brexit's refuse to deal with a mess of their own creation.

[Craig234]

20. To be fair

Iraq was happening with or without Britain.

[NewJeffCT]

17. They're also going to build a wall around England

and have France pay for it.

[The Animator]

21. I think it would be easier for them to build a moat...

... oh wait...

^Seen earlier on FB and had to steal for the occasion...