What we (not Tweety) here knew about Shrub+everything &Iraq contemporaneously. Warning:Graphic image

[UTUSN]

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http://www.texasmonthly.com/politics/decision-points-versus-new-bush-biography/
[font size=5]Mission Admonished[/font]
A new biography takes a hard look at our forty-third president’s foreign policy record, with assessments that often stand in stark contrast with Bush’s own verdict on his presidency.

By Jeff Salamon

No matter who takes the oath of office next January, he or she will inherit from Barack Obama what Obama inherited from George W. Bush: a seemingly never-ending military engagement in Iraq. So it’s no surprise that thirteen years after the United States invaded Iraq, scholars are still debating that fateful move. The latest entry in that debate is the historian Jean Edward Smith’s presidential biography, Bush (Simon & Schuster, July 5), which largely focuses on our forty-third president’s foreign policy record. In many places, Smith’s judgments stand in stark contrast with Bush’s own verdict on his presidency, as presented in his 2010 memoir, Decision Points. Here are a few examples of how the two men’s views differ. ....


“George W. Bush’s decision to invade Iraq will likely go down in history as the worst foreign policy decision ever made by an American president.”

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[annabanana]

1. What was not on TV in 2003:

Seven Hundred Thousand people marching right by the headquarters of every damn network in NY.. (not a peep on the air)

[MagickMuffin]

3. Well at least C-SPAN carried it live

I recorded all of it. Which I still have btw! It was a sight to behold. I felt like I was there!

The networks decided long ago they would not cover protest, stating it would only encourage more people to do it. But hey give them old grannies with teabags stapled to their hats and the networks are ALL over it. Wall to wall coverage, along with interviews.

No danger to showcase teabaggers!

[malaise]

8. Not only that

They also decided not to show the returning dead bodies of innocent young men and women slaughtered for a few to enrich themselves

[trc]

13. There was a policy put in place by Bush I in 1991 that banned the press from

from broadcasting the returning war dead. That policy was lifted by Obama in 2009 and left to the families to decide...most chose privacy. So this was not negligence on the part of the press, but they have been negligent in so many other ways...

[malaise]

16. That was because the press was pliant and willing to allow them to cover up the real cost of war -

those expendable bodies of innocent brainwashed young men and women.
I maintain that it was negligence

[lunatica]

26. The press was 'embedded' too

There wasn't much news coming out of that press.

[TrollBuster9090]

5. +1000

Amazing, isn't it? A few hundred obese geriatric white people show up on Capitol Hill in yellow T-shirts, waving Gadsden flags, to protest paying the taxes that pay for their own Medicare and Social Security; and it gets wall to wall coverage on cable news. Several hundred thousand people show up with "No Blood for Oil" signs, to prevent a war that hasn't started yet; and it's totally ignored.

Sadly, Rumsfeld and Cheney knew exactly what they were doing when they decided to have reporters embedded with the invading army. It allowed a whole bunch of reporters to play "macho man," and thus CHEERLEAD for the war.

I'm thinking, next time there is a serious PEACE movement, we should have embedded reporters, too!

[Martin Eden]

9. That kinda puts the lie to the meme that a senator from NY had to vote for the IWR ...

... because 9/11 happened in NYC and New Yorkers were gung ho for invading Iraq.

[arcane1]

30. Blood is on the hands of everyone who repeated Bush's lies n/t

[gratuitous]

10. We had a lot of people in the streets, too

The local paper spent a good third or more of its story disputing the claimed number of demonstrators, and the "official" lower police count. The Oregonian even went so far as to hire aerial photography to "prove" that there weren't nearly as many protestors in the street as organizers or the police claimed. Shortly after the March 2003 demonstration, the Portland Police Bureau announced they were getting out of the business of estimating crowd sizes.

But all the major media agreed that all those millions of people were just a focus group, dirty fucking hippies, and terrorist dupes and appeasers not worth listening to.

[AwakeAtLast]

11. My sig line for way too long

And I think I need to change the number.

[chapdrum]

31. That was their part of the mission to accomplish.

[Gabi Hayes]

2. he knew. just didn't fit his then 'sunny nobility' narrative

nothin but a puppet



they left out the codpiece!

[murpheeslaw]

12. It isn't that over sized oval thing

under his left arm? It looks exaggerated enough to have been worn in the Renaissance.

[lunatica]

25. My thought too

[FairWinds]

4. I agree that the invasion of Iraq was stupid and evil beyond belief . .

(and I wrote as much at that time)

And it was not just a "decision to invade." It also required an
avalanche of blatant, implausible lies.

But even that is not the end of the story . .

The Bush admin also intervened in the housing market
(as early as 2003) to make the financial meltdown much worse.

And the torture . . .

I really cannot think of anything of consequence that Dubya did
not screw up.

WORST. PREZ. EVER.

[jimmil]

6. I truly try not to hate....

I didn't think I could hate anyone as bad as I hated Ronald Reagan but GWB surpassed him. Reagan screwed up the US but Bush screwed up the world. I wish he could live in the crap he made. I'm sorry but I hate the guy.

[ffr]

7. I'm back, now after 10 minutes puking. Your warning wasn't adequate!

Next time, PLEASE, put a link to graphic pictures so as not to turn our stomachs.

If we want to see such things, makes us have to open it ourselves.

[hibbing]

14. "scholars are still debating"

You mean there are scholars that still are arguing that the invasion and occupation of Iraq was the right thing to do? Besides the esteemed Dr. Rice of course.


Peace

[mdbl]

24. you mean Dr

Kindasleeza Rice? She was in it for the money and prestige, or so she thought.

[CaptainTruth]

15. If it doesn't include a detailed history of the PNAC & their attempts to initiate...

... an invasion of Iraq before Bush was POTUS (2 letters to Clinton & 1 to Netanyahu, that we know of, & their desire for "a new Pearl Harbor" they could use as an excuse to invade Iraq ... & how PNAC members took over Bush's cabinet) ... without all of that in detail it will fall utterly short of telling the true story of GW Bush.

The decision to invade Iraq was made long before 9/11, they were just waiting for an excuse.

And I believe the LIHOP theory of 9/11 ... there's just too much evidence for it.

[KrazyinKS]

17. That's right they wanted to go into Irag before Bush-

then they managed to worm their way into his cabinet. I think this is the most under reported event in recent history. I think they destabilized the entire Mideast. Wasn't it Colin Powell who said "if you break it you own it" If I understand it correctly Bush and Cheney are no longer on speaking terms. People have such selective memories.

[Scuba]

18. Anyone who pushed for this war deserves our contempt.

[lonestarnot]

19. They have it!

[Scuba]

20. Not from everyone here. Many support some of the strongest advocates for the war.

[lonestarnot]

21. No those are roadkill trumplets.

[allan01]

22. bushco wanted a war so bad hed do anything . even lie

he was heard i waana war i wanna war. big lie , weapons of mass distruction , they were never found . a figment if his imagination. on of my friends sons said " they were smuggled out of the country.". yah right . were never there

[trumad]

23. Nuff Said!

[a kennedy]

27. Not sure if this is appropriate here.....but look at this picture and tell me

that it looks like shrub........I've mentioned it before but didn't get much response, so am trying it again.


http://www.nola.com/movies/index.ssf/2016/07/the_bfg_movie_review_steven_sp.html

[modestybl]

28. Let's not forget the Dems who enabled Bush...

... if Robert Kagan is now running fundraisers for the Dem frontrunner, we can only expect more of the same - unless we push back hard.

[chapdrum]

29. But so what?

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Vincent Bugliosi (the Manson prosecutor) produced an epic volume titled "The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder."
He lays out a very comprehensive case, taking up hundreds of pages.

You can guess how well that book sold.