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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI finally found a picture of Denny Hastert (ReTHUGs longest serving Speaker of the House)
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being wheeled into prison - good read as well
I hope Dems have ads in November with Denny Hastert
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-dennis-hastert-reports-to-prison-met-20160622-story.html
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The multibuilding Rochester facility sits on a sprawling campus and was once home to former U.S. Rep. Dan Rostenkowski, television evangelist Jim Bakker and Bob Probert, the former Chicago Blackhawks enforcer
It is one of only five such prison hospitals that serve male inmates at all security levels. Besides Hastert, the most recognizable inmate currently housed there is Jared Loughner, the perpetrator of the 2011 Tucson, Ariz., shooting that killed six people and injured then-U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords.
Although it is a federal prison, the tranquil location has more of a hospital-like setting. Security is focused around the perimeter and inmates may move around outside of designated count times with relative freedom. Staff is not armed within the buildings.
PJMcK
(22,037 posts)Any Democratic candidate for office, from the presidency down to the lowest local office, has so much honest, factual and provable information to campaign with that it will be unbelievable if we don't see an electoral blowout.
but I'd milk this one...dry
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)If Democratic candidates use Hastert as a reason we shouldn't vote for Repubs, it will make them appear desperate. Hastert looks like a sad and dilapidated man in that wheelchair. Besides, the Repubs will come back with their own ads that will target Dems that haven't been exactly "clean", and guess which side the M$M will take and give the best exposure to under the guise of "news"?
I think it's a better strategy to have Democratic Party-supporting PACS make ads using Hastert IF they choose to take that route. Remember, it weren't Democrats who took the "47%" video of Mitt Romney. It were Democratic Party friendly operatives who did. And it crushed Romney in the G.E. because it had legitimacy.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)to add a touch of warmth and cheeriness to a scene.
malaise
(269,004 posts)Did you notice his camouflage pants? Tough guy has arrived
TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)We can still see him.
Marie Marie
(9,999 posts)Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)jmowreader
(50,557 posts)And after the shit he did, I can understand why.
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Hekate
(90,690 posts)....thoroughly taught by those of us who had to live through it. Every fricking one of Bill's accusers was a sexual miscreant himself, plus rolling in the mud of financial and political corruption.
All they've heard in their young lives is the RW version; I plead with them to listen to us.
Dems and other Lefts who are well old enough to remember and still choose to carry water for the RW should be called out for what they are, but I leave it to you to decide what that is.
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Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)will not show in a Campaign. For some inane reason,the consultant's hired to run Democratic Campaigns,for the most part shy away from using hard nose tactics or titillating stories. When you have the facts,run with it.
malaise
(269,004 posts)Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Grew up in the Upper Midwest,and this turn the other cheek crap in our Democratic Party used to really bite. Party Leaders were so damn afraid to ruffle the Rethugs feathers with facts. You never know,they might use something against us. Well,they make crap up out of whole cloth and through at us every friggin day.
malaise
(269,004 posts)they make up. Just imagine if Ensign or Hastert were Dems - this would be all they discuss
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)the Democratic Party gave Ensign a big wet kiss. And of course the local press would not go there and never once did Harry Reid really challenge Ensign. So the Rethugs just moved another POS into his spot to fill out his term. Smells to high hell on that one.
malaise
(269,004 posts)I never heard a word about Ensign from Dems
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)left. Seems to me he had a sugar daddy that cleaned up his mess. Not a word of as to the Guy the Rethugs selected to replace him. Heard scuttle butt about a Ensign Reid connection in Henderson,nobody will verify it. Interesting how things work out,old Harry got the knife and he finally figured out who his real friends are. No more Mr.Nice Guy,and the Dems here are not messing around and calling their opponents to task.
MagickMuffin
(15,943 posts)But, prison experts said, make no mistake: Hastert will be subject to traditional prison rules and regulations that include a strip search upon entry, random shakedown searches, urine testing for drugs and he will have to submit a DNA sample. He won't be kept in a locked cell and rarely would be handcuffed or shackled, but Hastert will have to follow regulations that dictate when he eats, sleeps and showers.
He may speak on the phone for up to 300 minutes per month and share an embrace with loved ones on designated visiting days each week. He'll have access to a shared television room, newspapers, a law library, and indoor and outdoor fitness and recreation.
Sounds like a country club prison to me!
malaise
(269,004 posts)but I'm not sure I'd want to be around him or fellow prisoner Jared Loughner.
MagickMuffin
(15,943 posts)wouldn't want to be around either one of them!
LuvNewcastle
(16,846 posts)why don't they bring a little boy in for him to fondle once a week? They wouldn't want to be insensitive to his needs, would they?
TexasProgresive
(12,157 posts)Why was he tried in federal court? Did some of the incidents cross state lines?
Here's your pic. Some image links need to have jpeg added to the end. and some still won't show. I always do a preview to check.
malaise
(269,004 posts)That's a good question
onethatcares
(16,168 posts)like he's too damn stupid to use the sidewalks.
Wouldn't that be easier than wheelchairing over grass?
malaise
(269,004 posts)Boomer
(4,168 posts)Hastert isn't imprisoned because he's a sexual predator, he's in prison because he broke federal financial regulations. The sexual exploitation of minors happened too long ago to be prosecuted.
TexasProgresive
(12,157 posts)I wonder why there are limits on prosecuting sexual assault. Those boys, now men are still suffering. He should at least be punished for them.
jmowreader
(50,557 posts)Using a bank to structure his hush money payments throws this into the federal court system.
TexasProgresive
(12,157 posts)This is a case of Al Capone- couldn't get him on his most heinous crimes so got him on tax evasion.
jmowreader
(50,557 posts)Al Capone needed to go to jail for a really long time. The feds knew he'd done a LOT of things - tax evasion, Volstead Act, Mann Act (one of his first jobs was as an enforcer in a brothel that was built half in Illinois and half in Indiana; when cops from one state came to raid the place everyone ran to the side in the other state), quite a few murders, rapes, robberies, protection rackets...you name it and he'd done it. They also knew Capone had bought his way out of beefs for a long time, and if they tried him on everything at once there was a chance he'd beat it all, and then...
So, different tactics were employed: They broke the Capone case up into chunks - tax evasion was a case, Volstead Act was one, murder, and so on - with plans to haul him back to court until they were able to put him away. Fortunately for the feds, they got a conviction the first time they tried.
asiliveandbreathe
(8,203 posts)the halls of congress???- Now that would be news....
malaise
(269,004 posts)still rules ReTHUG thinking.
BumRushDaShow
(129,023 posts)Cheeto refused to do it but Eddie Munster did as soon he was elected Speaker believe it or not.
jmowreader
(50,557 posts)I think they should put that sumbitch right on the wall in very plain sight, and add a sign that says what he did and where he wound up.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)he might be doing 10 years or more.
Boomer
(4,168 posts)Hastert is not in prison for child molestation. He's in prison for breaking financial regulations concerning the movement of money. During that investigation, it was revealed that he was a sexual abuser, but the statue of limitations ran out on that transgression.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)And I suspect if he had had some pot plants in his basement, the statute of limitations wouldn't be so lenient.
http://www.wptv.com/news/region-martin-county/stuart/stuart-woman-faces-10-years-in-prison-in-medical-marijuana-case
(yes. I realize I'm comparing apples to wheelbarrows, but the fact of the matter is we let violent criminals out of prison to make room for non-violent drug offenders)
Rex
(65,616 posts)Nobody on this forum would get that kind of treatment, good thing he wasn't growing weed out in the back yard.
Notice how some people hate hearing that?
maindawg
(1,151 posts)He is in prison because he lied for he FBI ? And they cannot charge him with molesting children ? I thought there was no limit on that crime .
And that is not a prison. I would like to book a month there myself.
Rex
(65,616 posts)and raped young men in his charge when he was a wrestling coach. Of all those, he only faced fraud charges. You, me and anyone else on this forum would have been thrown in prison for at least 25 years.
Plus he gets all the benefits of being a congress person. He got off easy, because of his huge political-business footprint.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)If he had grown a pot plant, though, they could probably still charge him.
kairos12
(12,862 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)nt
spanone
(135,838 posts)enid602
(8,620 posts)I think that the Hastert case is particularly timely, especially when you consider that the then 13 year old girl's rape lawsuit against Trump, which was thrown out of court in May in California for technical reasons, was re filed again in New York 13 days ago.
malaise
(269,004 posts)Too soon to see if the lawsuit has no merit or if it has wings. If it has wings, Donald can't really settle without creating an uproar. Apparently, Epstein has already settled out of court with regard to two other similar cases.
IllinoisBirdWatcher
(2,315 posts)invoke their self-proclaimed Hastert "rule" to deny votes on serious issues.
Since they don't seem to call their "rule" by name these days, we should constantly remind the general public how they celebrate their hero worship of a serial child abuser.
Hastert and his "rule" should be a major issue in this campaign.
PatrickforO
(14,574 posts)and were confined to a wheelchair like he is, I suspect the justice system would take a giant shit on us.
Since a wheelchair is dangerous because you could conceivably make a weapon out of parts of it, they would confiscate it. Same with walkers, crutches, canes, etc. Nope, could be a weapon!
So we'd get to CRAWL for the five or ten years we'd get instead of the lightweight sentence Hastert got.
This is pretty fucked up.
I think Congress should have to abide by the same crap they foist off on us. Same healthcare. Same Social Security. Same 'justice' system.
malaise
(269,004 posts)Sure looks like he's taking all his stuff
Solly Mack
(90,767 posts)Doesn't matter how long he stays in prison or even if he dies there. I believe there are more victims. The Illinois General Assembly had a Legislative Staff Intern Program when he was a state rep and the House had a page program when he was first elected to Congress.
He also lead a Boy Scout group.
No one will ever convince me he just stopped.