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Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 02:32 PM Jul 2016

Hey! Media dicks, why don't you take some notes and

devise a template to question Trump using the dogged persistence with which you're interrogating the State Department Spokesman who's currently being questioned about the massive email scandal (that's how they're treating it)?

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Hey! Media dicks, why don't you take some notes and (Original Post) Gabi Hayes Jul 2016 OP
They won't do that PJMcK Jul 2016 #1
speaking of dicks, whatever happened to Jeff Gerth? Gabi Hayes Jul 2016 #4
Yeah, I'd forgotten about him PJMcK Jul 2016 #6
take some time and read the link I provided above. it DETAILS Gabi Hayes Jul 2016 #9
I did read the article PJMcK Jul 2016 #11
you so BAD! Gabi Hayes Jul 2016 #12
Bush the Lesser would never have been president PJMcK Jul 2016 #13
thanks. you, too. excellent post. and about Carter.... Gabi Hayes Jul 2016 #18
they are in awe of trump cause he's really, really rich. spanone Jul 2016 #2
HOW? underpants Jul 2016 #3
you mean his lean mean ground machine of 30 campaign workers Gabi Hayes Jul 2016 #5
For the campaign yes underpants Jul 2016 #7
Donald Trump lies even when he's lying PJMcK Jul 2016 #15
this is their chance to knock the anti-semitism of trump off the news cycle spanone Jul 2016 #8
Katy Tur was talking about this, even going to the point of Gabi Hayes Jul 2016 #10
+1,000 malaise Jul 2016 #14
so true treestar Jul 2016 #16
K n R flamingdem Jul 2016 #17
little baby dik diks: Gabi Hayes Jul 2016 #19
They make themselves look ridiculous flamingdem Jul 2016 #20
surely you mean redickulous? Gabi Hayes Jul 2016 #21
 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
4. speaking of dicks, whatever happened to Jeff Gerth?
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 02:43 PM
Jul 2016

blast from past, for those who never read, or recall what a giant tub of media generated feces the entire Whitewater 'scandal' was:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/arkansas/whitewater/lyonsarticle.html

PJMcK

(22,037 posts)
6. Yeah, I'd forgotten about him
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 02:57 PM
Jul 2016

Here are three quotes from his Wikipedia entry:

"He won a Pulitzer Prize in 1999 for covering the transfer of American satellite-launch technology to China. He came under fire for stories about the Whitewater controversy and the Chinese scientist Wen Ho Lee."

"Although he wrote some of the paper's most visible stories, Gerth himself kept a low profile. Balding and professorial, he shunned interviews, refused to give speeches and declined TV talk show appearances."

"With his former colleague at the Times, Don Van Natta, Jr., Gerth wrote an investigative biography about Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton entitled, Her Way: The Hopes and Ambitions of Hillary Rodham Clinton. It was published in June 2007 by Little, Brown and Company."

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
9. take some time and read the link I provided above. it DETAILS
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 03:24 PM
Jul 2016

what a PURPOSELY biased, misleading case the NYT did in manufacturing the faux whitewater scandal. Gerth was the helmsman; his counterparts at the Washington Post were Susan Schmidt, and Michael Weisskopf. some great karma caught up with you, eh, Michael?

I actually got to speak with her on CSPAN way back when, and she LIED her ass off about the congressional testimony of Jean Lewis, one of the chief instigators of the 'scandal', and whose infamous swoon, (and subsequent failure to return to complete her testimony) went unreported by both her and the NYT

I taped it, and briefly corresponded with Joe Conason about sending it to him, but he got a copy from CSPAN, and blah blah blah. fun times!

PJMcK

(22,037 posts)
11. I did read the article
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 03:31 PM
Jul 2016

Thanks for posting the link, Gabi Hayes. It was fascinating to read which I did before looking up Mr. Gerth's information.

By the way, your rhetorical question to Michael Weisskopf earns today's one-handed applause.

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
12. you so BAD!
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 04:20 PM
Jul 2016

he brought it on himself, by smearing Gore with the Clinton 'scandals,' without which the phony Iraq war never would have happened, right?

PJMcK

(22,037 posts)
13. Bush the Lesser would never have been president
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 04:45 PM
Jul 2016

It's been said that "Clinton Fatigue" was part of the reason that Al Gore didn't win decisively which would have prevented the electoral debacle in Florida. Even if Mr. Gore was a one-term president, our country would be in a vastly different and better place.

Think of how many times our nation's history has pivoted because one person won the presidency and the other one lost. Being a lifelong Democrat, the elections of Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush were disastrous and set our country on paths that we may never recover from. What if Jimmy Carter had been reelected? What if John Kerry had unseated President Bush? So much would have been different.

Have a lovely evening, Gabi Hayes.

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
18. thanks. you, too. excellent post. and about Carter....
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 05:07 PM
Jul 2016

his administration was undone even before he took office by his OWN party, led by Tip Oneill and Robert Byrd.

think I'm nuts? well, that may be true, but since you read the lyons/whitewater thing, when you have some time try this, or better yet the book:

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Walter_Karp/Reaction_Launched_LUS.html

THE REACTION IS LAUNCHED

p6
They had the best of reasons for dismay. The interventionist system had been the political establishment's single most powerful prop. It had imposed upon the country an iron discipline. With the "national security" of the country perpetually at hazard, "loyalty" to the national leadership had become the citizens' chief virtue, servility the new patriotism.

Dissent was deemed guilty until it proved itself innocent of weakening the country. "Perhaps it is a universal truth,' James Madison had written to Jefferson in 1798, "that the loss of liberty at home is to be charged to provisions against danger, real or pretended, from abroad."

The interventionist system had amply attested to that truth, for it was used for three decades to justify repression, to justify official secrecy, to justify tapped telephones, police spies and agent-provocateurs. The system justified unchecked and overwhelming executive power; it inspired American Presidents to claim the power to wage war at will under their inherent authority as Commander-in-Chief, a claim without the slightest constitutional foundation.

p6
Senator J. William Fulbright, in 1969 was frantically warning the Senate that "our government will soon become what it is already a long way toward becoming, an elective dictatorship."


Carter was prescient in many ways, perhaps chief amongst them was his energy speech from 1977, the proposed policies which which dems torpedoed:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/primary-resources/carter-energy/

ten points therein, perhaps only the clean coal bit being, as seen today, not such a good idea

spanone

(135,844 posts)
2. they are in awe of trump cause he's really, really rich.
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 02:35 PM
Jul 2016

and he shits on the media....so they take it in stride.

underpants

(182,829 posts)
3. HOW?
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 02:39 PM
Jul 2016

After everything he says the first question should be "HOW are you going to do that" followed up with "WHO are 'your people'?"

underpants

(182,829 posts)
7. For the campaign yes
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 02:57 PM
Jul 2016

As for his um policies he repeatedly says "My people will do that" much like his investigators in Hawaii.

PJMcK

(22,037 posts)
15. Donald Trump lies even when he's lying
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 04:49 PM
Jul 2016

Note: I posted these thoughts in another thread but they're appropriate to share here.

Back when Donald Trump was "investigating" President Obama's birthplace, apparently he lied about sending investigators to Hawaii.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trumps-birther-crusade-was-scam-wrapped-con?cid=eml_mra_20160705

So, he was lying about his lie. This man just cannot help himself.

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
10. Katy Tur was talking about this, even going to the point of
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 03:27 PM
Jul 2016

mentioning something like, the first time is a mistake, the second time is a (can't remember the word she used), the third, fourth, and fifth time is a pattern.

she may have been paraphrasing the anti-defamation league, but I can't remember. I was just surprised at how they spent enough time on it to show the tweet, and detail where it came from, as long as some previous ones, making the link to white supremacy sites.

got to give credit when it's due

treestar

(82,383 posts)
16. so true
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 05:02 PM
Jul 2016

why don't they investigate this person who wants to be POTUS? Find out if he has good judgment or not.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
20. They make themselves look ridiculous
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 06:07 PM
Jul 2016

taking him seriously - but in the end great to see which ones are the worst dicks!

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
21. surely you mean redickulous?
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 06:19 PM
Jul 2016

wolf b is actually going after Reince P, axing him if he really believes there's a conspiracy to let Hillary off the hook, emails-wise

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