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Yavin4

(35,442 posts)
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 03:40 PM Jul 2016

Simple solutions to the whole Hillary email story

1. Don't allow government officials on any level to use personal devices nor personal emails to conduct official government business. They can only use government issued devices.

2. Build a robust data management system(retention, back-up, disaster recovery, archiving, data security, etc.) for all user generated data.

Problem solved. Move on.

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Simple solutions to the whole Hillary email story (Original Post) Yavin4 Jul 2016 OP
Hindsight is always 20/20. If the government hadn't had antiquated hardware . . . brush Jul 2016 #1
True. But it should be standard policy. Yavin4 Jul 2016 #3
#1 was solved when President Obama issued order in 2014 that forbids the use of underthematrix Jul 2016 #2
This is the federal government that we're talking about. They have the money. Yavin4 Jul 2016 #5
We also have a Republican congress sharp_stick Jul 2016 #6
The GOP Congress refused to budget any money to update ANYTHING for the State Department MohRokTah Jul 2016 #9
You do realize that federal budgets are not like a underthematrix Jul 2016 #14
One problem PJMcK Jul 2016 #4
This wouldn't take much of an investment to build. Yavin4 Jul 2016 #7
Republicans are notoriously penny-wise and pound-foolish. SunSeeker Jul 2016 #8
Th email system at State has been problematic since at least the first Clinton administration. baldguy Jul 2016 #22
That's beyond ridiculous in this day and age. Yavin4 Jul 2016 #23
That's the GOP for you. baldguy Jul 2016 #24
It's also impossible to monitor. randome Jul 2016 #10
Answers Yavin4 Jul 2016 #12
So you make a damn app on whatever device. joshcryer Jul 2016 #16
And how would the app know which calling phone # was personal or government? randome Jul 2016 #17
You don't allow the people to install any apps or software on any govt issued device. Yavin4 Jul 2016 #21
GOP reps won't vote to fund a modernized system. nt tblue37 Jul 2016 #11
If so, they're hampering national security by not funding it. n/t Yavin4 Jul 2016 #13
The Republicans' budget cuts reduced security for embassy staff csziggy Jul 2016 #19
This requires legislation and funding. joshcryer Jul 2016 #15
3. Realize the backend system and the devices will be the lowest bid possible..... Rosco T. Jul 2016 #18
She asked for a secure Blackberry, like Obama had. They lacked the budget. pnwmom Jul 2016 #20

brush

(53,791 posts)
1. Hindsight is always 20/20. If the government hadn't had antiquated hardware . . .
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 03:43 PM
Jul 2016

back then none of it would have happened.

Yavin4

(35,442 posts)
3. True. But it should be standard policy.
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 03:44 PM
Jul 2016

My suggestions are pretty standard for most companies that handle sensitive information. It's kind of shocking that the State Dept was so lax.

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
2. #1 was solved when President Obama issued order in 2014 that forbids the use of
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 03:44 PM
Jul 2016

of private email to conduct official business. #2 requires funding

Yavin4

(35,442 posts)
5. This is the federal government that we're talking about. They have the money.
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 03:46 PM
Jul 2016

This isn't Little Sisters of the Poor.

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)
6. We also have a Republican congress
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 03:53 PM
Jul 2016

that won't allow anything to be funded unless it includes tax cuts for the rich and / or the permanent defunding of Planned Parenthood.

The amount of money required to actually do this might force them to buy one or two fewer F-35's and you can't have that.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
9. The GOP Congress refused to budget any money to update ANYTHING for the State Department
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 04:01 PM
Jul 2016

so there goes #2.

What you are saying is, the Secretary of State should have had no email communication whatsoever for over 200 days each year, which is about how many days Hillary spent on the road out of each year and would have had no access to a State Department email account since the ancient infrastructure COULD NOT BE ACCESSED OUTSIDE THE PRIVATE STATE DEPARTMENT NETWORK!

PJMcK

(22,037 posts)
4. One problem
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 03:44 PM
Jul 2016

Who will budget the money to pay for it. Republicans don't do infrastructure, you know.

If we had a functioning government then your solutions would have already been implemented, Yavin4. Great ideas, though!

Yavin4

(35,442 posts)
7. This wouldn't take much of an investment to build.
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 03:55 PM
Jul 2016

Also, a robust data management system allows you to data mine information.

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
22. Th email system at State has been problematic since at least the first Clinton administration.
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 09:20 PM
Jul 2016

And you're assuming that the GOP Congress is interested in fixing it.

They're not.

They're much more interested in wasting money investigating any Democrat they can get their slmy little fingers on.

Yavin4

(35,442 posts)
23. That's beyond ridiculous in this day and age.
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 09:42 PM
Jul 2016

Valuable information could be lost because of sheer stupidity.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
10. It's also impossible to monitor.
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 04:04 PM
Jul 2016

Every government official will need to carry at least 2 devices with them at all times. Who decides whether something is personal or official business? Sometimes the line is blurred.

And sure, the ballpark figure to update all computer systems might be easy to acknowledge but who is going to do the archiving and security? What will they charge for that?

Then there is the baseline point that there may not be any problem to solve in the first place. Clinton never compromised national security. Nothing happened on her watch that endangered us so...

In a perfect world, we would have everything you list and I would agree with it but it's not going to happen.
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Yavin4

(35,442 posts)
12. Answers
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 04:20 PM
Jul 2016

1. People have to carry two devices? So what? They're adults. They can handle it. The policy is clear. If you use a personal device to conduct official business, you are in violation of the law.

2. There are hundreds of data management professionals that can set this up.

3. What I proposed is not something new. There are corporations that do this all of the time. They have to handle highly sensitive data (see health care and banks as examples).

4. Finally, not only should my solutions be mandated by law for security purposes, it also helps to make the State Dept. function better. Being able to search archived emails for information assists in handling world affairs.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
16. So you make a damn app on whatever device.
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 06:20 PM
Jul 2016

The app would act as an email/messaging app, and government related phone calls would go through the app.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
17. And how would the app know which calling phone # was personal or government?
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 08:01 PM
Jul 2016

What if some diplomat's wife calls from a restaurant to say her water just broke? Is that a personal call or a government call regardless of what number she calls?
[hr][font color="blue"][center]The truth doesn’t always set you free.
Sometimes it builds a bigger cage around the one you’re already in.
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csziggy

(34,136 posts)
19. The Republicans' budget cuts reduced security for embassy staff
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 08:33 PM
Jul 2016

Which was a contributing factor for what happened in Benghazi according to some sources.

The Republicans don't give a shit about hampering national security. All they care about is getting power into their hands and money into the hands of their cronies.

Rosco T.

(6,496 posts)
18. 3. Realize the backend system and the devices will be the lowest bid possible.....
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 08:09 PM
Jul 2016

... the poorest written and least supported software around and you end up with contractors to maintain it that will change out every year or so when the support contract comes up for bid again because gub'mint employees are bad and paying double the prevailing rate for the services is better because of the GOP that provides the funding

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
20. She asked for a secure Blackberry, like Obama had. They lacked the budget.
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 08:40 PM
Jul 2016
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/emails-show-nsa-rejected-hillary-clinton-request-for-secure-smartphone/

Newly released emails show a 2009 request to issue a secure government smartphone to then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton was denied by the National Security Agency.

The messages made public Wednesday were obtained by Judicial Watch, a conservative legal advocacy group that has filed numerous lawsuits seeking the release of federal documents related to Clinton's tenure as the nation's top diplomat.

The Democratic presidential front-runner has come under intense scrutiny for her decision to use a private email server located in the basement of her New York home to route messages, including some containing sensitive information. Security experts have raised concern the arrangement could have left the messages vulnerable to attack by hackers, including those working for foreign intelligence agencies.

SNIP

"We began examining options for (Secretary Clinton) with respect to secure 'BlackBerry-like' communications," wrote Donald R. Reid, the department's assistant director for security infrastructure. "The current state of the art is not too user friendly, has no infrastructure at State, and is very expensive."
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