'Kill Zone'? Were these killers military trained?

[RandySF]

The more I hear, the more I think the bastards were well trained in this kind of mayhem.

[Meldread]

1. Yeah, I felt early on that whoever is involved has military training.

It was obviously coordinated, planned, and clearly targeted.

[uponit7771]

2. I just posted something like this in another site, the vid of the cop being shot in the back close

... range the shooter was NOT someone who just grabbed a gun and went nuts.

He moved viewing through gun site like he KNEW what he was doing... military like, shooting around the corner like a pro and getting out of the area.

They KNEW what they were doing and timed it perfect, it HAD to be someone who KNEW the path of the protest and where the DFW LEOS were going to be.

This was NO small event

[alcibiades_mystery]

5. Trained, organized, disciplined. Revved up the op in hours

Would certainly bet former military, probably with urban combat experience.

[KittyWampus]

46. I am very busy and trying to keep up w/this story. I respect you and the previous poster…

so your opinion the killers were trained and possibly military is taken as a real possibility.

Thanks for your input.

[Nevernose]

3. Either military or a whole lot of paintball n/t

[uponit7771]

5. +1

[Cali_Democrat]

4. They probably had AR-15's

Why are weapons of war even legal?

We are a dumb fucking country.

[uponit7771]

7. Yeap, stupid shit... a device DESIGNED to kill as many humans as possible is available

[JonathanRackham]

37. A scoped hunting rifle would be a snipers tool.

[rufus dog]

8. it will take some time to unwind this whole mess

Does seem very well coordinated, did it jell in the last 24 to 48 hours or was it planned waiting for an event to occur to take the plan to action?

[HamiltonSwan]

16. From the PD chief's comments the demonstration was planned

He made a reference to Dallas police attending planning meetings with the event organizers beforehand which is fairly common for events of all kinds in large cities where there is potential for a lot of people to be in one place at one time.

[rufus dog]

19. I'm questioning the planning of the shooters

Seems like more than a few people involved and planning involved to maximize carnage.

[HamiltonSwan]

20. Oh yes, no doubt about it. Sorry i misread your post.

[AntiBank]

9. I have been saying this since it started. No civilians hit that I

know of other than one minor injury. All in a hyper stressful crowed action theatre. It reeks of paramilitary. The videos I have seen of one of the perps drawing out and executing a cop is done with such precision he has to be military or ex mil.

[gwheezie]

10. Now reporting bombs placed all over dallas

This is not a bunch of amateurs

[AntiBank]

12. active negotiations with one of the shooters atm. El Centro

garage. One of the possible suspects is female too.

[uponit7771]

13. +1

[NutmegYankee]

17. CBS is interviewing family of a protestor who was shot - so there are civilian casualties

[AntiBank]

21. read my post. there was one that I know of

[NutmegYankee]

24. The civilian will be in surgery for hours - not a minor injury.

In fact, the injury as described by her sister may require a lot of work for recovery.

[AntiBank]

25. the local and national streams called it minor. I hope they

fully recover as it seems to be worse.

[ecstatic]

11. Look at how the discussion has changed. Now cops want their military

equipment reinstated, and for President Obama and everyone protesting to sit down and STFU. This was clearly a well coordinated, pre-planned attack. That's why the "suspects" are still in the run. Since when do protesters have bombs, BTW?

[sarisataka]

14. So are you thinking

this is a false flag op?

[AntiBank]

15. beat me to it

I am not that ready to put on the tin foil yet.

[ecstatic]

18. Nope. I believe the reports that say that 4 officers died.

I'm referring to the motives behind the attack.

[AntiBank]

23. that is what the poster meant

False flag is when you stage a real attack for ulterior motives and also usually use patsies as public perp cover for the real actors

[ecstatic]

26. I thought with false flag ops, the victims don't really exist

And the witnesses and/or families are "crisis" actors?

Anyway, I have no idea what's going on, but I have opinions, like everyone else. While most assume this was a revenge attack, I see it as a "get back in line" attack. It boils down to trust and credibility.

[AntiBank]

27. No no. Not necessarily. Crisis actors are IMHO total fiction.

Flase flags are almost always real impact and have been around for thousands of years.

[BlueNoMatterWho]

29. Yep. And in fact you can find footage on YouTube of actual crisis actors in action.

[AntiBank]

31. I think most of that isnt real. IF it is we are way more fucked

than the limits of this board permit to be discussed.

[BlueNoMatterWho]

32. The crisis actors I was referring to took place in Egypt and other places. Not Dallas.

[AntiBank]

33. Some of the vids I have seen revolve around US mass shootings or the Boston

Bombing. The Alex Jones crew, neo nazi scum, lunatic fringe alt-right and alt-left eat that shit up like manna. I don't traffic in their uber paranoia and or schizophrenia.

[BlueNoMatterWho]

34. Neither do I.

[Nevernose]

22. There haven't been any bombs yet

Just the threat of bombs.

[BlueNoMatterWho]

28. No panic from the shooter. Not the first time he's been under fire.

[uponit7771]

30. +1

[Hoyt]

35. This kind of training is popular among gun fanciers. Here's tactical training place right in Dallas.

http://vxmarksmanship.com/

[hobbit709]

38. No amount of training substitutes for the real thing.

first time under real fire the initial reaction is to freeze or panic.

[uponit7771]

40. +1, the shooter who executed the cop on the ground didn't freeze at all... no doubt they had enough

... training not to freeze up.

This guy wasn't shaken at all by what was happening

[anoNY42]

36. Honestly (as a vet)

It doesn't take much training to set up an ambush.

[Ex Lurker]

39. A lot of this stuff can be learned from first-person shooter games

and I am not joking.

[anoNY42]

42. The best games try to get as close as possible to the real thing.

Then there is Duke Nukem, where I learned that my friend had memorized the spots where other players would appear when they came back to life, and would meet them with a rocket already on the way.

[uponit7771]

41. The vid of the cop execution on the ground was by someone who knew what they were doing...

... this wasn't video game level actions by a wanna be, this person had enough near live practice to move without flinching one bit

[tblue37]

43. Sounds like militia members with military experience. Sovereign citizen types. nt

[adigal]

44. I thought the same thing with their tactics

These people are trained in killing. What the hell happened to their brains to justify this?

[Javaman]

45. of course they were trained...

no untrained person could do that kind of damage with that kind of accuracy in that short of period of time.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

47. Not trained well enough to evade capture though.