It pains me to say this, but what the hell did they expect?

[Photographer]

So many killings with no one held accountable and later justified for wanton killings/executions....

The pressure has been building for years now and it's time to address the reasons behind the anger that took lives in Dallas last night.

[brush]

1. Unfortunately for the innocent Dallas cops, but the justice system can't just keep . . .

killing people and exonerating them and not get some push back.

[leeroysphitz]

3. "Innocent cops"... n/t

[Demonaut]

7. fucked up reply, they were innocent

[brush]

11. Those cops in Dallas were. I do know that "innocent cops" is usually an oxymoron.

Not the case there though.

[Nitram]

67. Maybe they were and maybe they weren't innocent.

We'll never know because they all, "guilty" and "innocent" help to cover up every crime the "guilty" ones commit. And in that, they all share a collective blame for a corrupt and toxic law enforcement culture.

[Action_Patrol]

77. No they don't. You're awful.

People are dead. What a disgusting reply.

[Hoppy]

102. There is truth in the post... just not a broad brush truth.

Nitrams's post reflects information that was first brought about with Serpico's story. Serpico is alive, living in upper New York State and receives death threats to this day. His crime was exposing fellow officers.

Video cameras today are exposing the brutality and murder that is being committed by cops. They go on to expose the cover-ups that take place until fellow officers are indicted and convicted for filing false reports.

It is knows as the "Blue Wall of Silence."

Few officers commit murder or fuck things up while on duty. The question for the "good" cops is, "If your partner committed a crime or fucked up, what would you do?"

[840high]

115. Agreed.

[puffy socks]

81. That's the harsh and brutal truth.

The good cops get purged.

[baldguy]

111. Dallas Officer-Involved Shootings Have Rapidly Declined In Recent Years

After a deliberate shift in police training, excessive force complaints against the Dallas Police Department dropped by 64% between 2009 and 2014. The number of arrests and officer-involved shootings also declined in recent years.

...
“This police department trained in de-escalation far before cities across America did it,” Mayor Mike Rawlings told reporters on Friday morning. “We’re one of the premier community policing cities in the country and this year we have the fewest police officer-related shootings than any large city in America.”

Dallas Police Department Chief David Brown has credited this progress to a shift in training and practices, which put greater emphasis on de-escalation and community policing.

As the Dallas Morning News reported last year, instructors taught officers to “slow down” when engaging with a suspect and to speak calmly rather than immediately shouting. The department has also doubled the amount of training for officers on patrol.

more
https://www.buzzfeed.com/albertsamaha/dallas-police-numbers?utm_term=.ore71RO8J#.roaG56wLp

[LuvNewcastle]

88. Yes. Sooner or later

it was going to happen. And it could have been just about anywhere.

[Dreamer Tatum]

2. I'm guessing they expected to protect the peaceful BLM assembly

without getting shot by snipers.

[MillennialDem]

6. OP has a point. At some point, the legal system fails (ie people lose faith in it). We can argue

whether that threshold has been reached or not, but at some point people will have enough and go to extrajudicial means to settle grievances.

[Dreamer Tatum]

12. Sounds like those Dallas cops should have turned their guns on themselves.

Can you tell me where the next place is that cops should damn well expect to be filled full of lead?

[MillennialDem]

25. Wow, nice strawman and red herring all in one.

[Dreamer Tatum]

27. It's just the logical extension of the argument that the cops had it coming.

And yes, the implicit argument being made is that the cops had it coming.

[MillennialDem]

29. No, it isn't but nice try. I never said cops had it coming, I said OP had a point that

if the justice system doesn't work for you, why the hell follow it?

[1StrongBlackMan]

40. No ... No ... No ...

only economic system failure should elicit an expressively outraged response. (See: the "populist" movements of Brexit ... and trump ... and, well ...)

[smirkymonkey]

106. Unfortunate, but true.

People will only put up with so much for so long before taking things into their own hands.

[1StrongBlackMan]

33. I wonder ...

were they there to "protect peaceful BLM assembly"? Or, were they there to protect the property, if the assembly turned non-peaceful?

[socialist_n_TN]

39. I would guess the latter as that's what their main function is........

in today's society.

[1StrongBlackMan]

43. I agree; but, when has their function EVER been differently focused?

[socialist_n_TN]

49. True. From their inception as "slave patrols" protecting the .......

private property of the slave owners, that IS their function.

[white_wolf]

55. I believe there was even a Supreme Court case that discussed this.

Not this particular issue, but one that basically ruled the function of the police was to protect property and they had no obligation to place themselves in harms way to protect others. It's beyond fucked up and in a just society we'd already be looking at major reforms within the police and wider criminal justice system.

[passiveporcupine]

78. ^^This^^

Violence is never the answer, but sometimes it's the only way an issue can see daylight and get the attention it needs.

Unfortunately, the wrong (innocent people) can die for someone else's crime...just like innocent black people keep dying because of injustice in our police and legal systems.

This Philando Castile killing is especially egregious, because he did not have a record..he .owned and carried a gun legally, and was complying with the officer's demands, when after willingly informing the officer he had a concealed weapon, to prevent anything going awry, the officer overreacted and immediately assumed a threat and shot him in supposed "self defense".

If this is not a clear cut case of what our whole system is about today and how it targets innocent blacks, I don't know what could do that.

I know this officer shot out of fear for his own life, but it was unjustified and based entirely on his assumption that a black man with a gun is going to try to kill him.

I feel so defeated and hopeless. How the hell can we stop this? As long as this country has people running around with open carry or concealed carry and our police force assumes blacks are guilty, this will never ever end.

[adigal]

118. Someone on television said that protestors can't be allowed to behave

The way they did in NYC yesterday, blocking good folks from getting home and all. Need to get permits and permission.

Yes, we must follow the rules.

[Chemisse]

92. +1000

[840high]

116. I expect you are right.

[still_one]

4. uh, no. This was a very unstable person who decided to randomly shoot police, that most likely

had no record of abuse, to demonstrate what?

[passiveporcupine]

89. They were targeted just the way black men are

His "people" are being killed just for being black.

Innocent blacks are targeted and killed for their skin color, so his revenge was to kill some of the white police officers who have been killing blacks.

The blacks being killed, like Philando Castile, are just as innocent as these cops were.

Yes, unstable people are often the perpetrators of random killings. But this was no random killing.

[socialist_n_TN]

5. I agree. This is the pushback you get for killing people..........

and getting away with murder. OVER AND OVER AGAIN. It's understandable. But it is counterproductive.

Trotsky talked about random acts of anarchistic violence way back in 1909. It does nothing to get at the actual systemic reasons for the oppression and provides the police with a reason to further oppress and repress.

[Dreamer Tatum]

15. Oh, well, if TROTSKY said it...

...golly, why couldn't those cops have read up on their Trotsky? Might have helped them and their families deal with the
justice meted out by that righteous sniper.

[socialist_n_TN]

30. Well if you knew anything about Trotsky, you would know.......

that he would have been opposed to the killing of the cops. It's counterproductive.

First they ignore you.
Then they ridicule you.
Then they fight you.
Then you win.

Apparently Trotskyists are at stage II now. Better than being ignored I guess.

[still_one]

31. There is absolutely no justification to what happened in Dallas, just as there is no justification

for the killing of African Americans by some police officers.

[KingCharlemagne]

22. Trotsky in 1932:

"The worker who becomes a policeman in the service of the capitalist state, is a bourgeois cop, not a worker."

https://www.marxists.org/archive/trotsky/works/1944/1944-fas.htm#p5

[socialist_n_TN]

28. Yep. Which means that cops don't belong in the labor movement.........

The function of the police in capitalist society is NOT to "serve and protect" the people, but to "serve and protect" private property.

[KingCharlemagne]

32. All anyone needed to do was go to an Occupy camp to see this principle on

full display. The cops in LA were far more concerned with protecting the Bank of America and Chase buildings than they were with making sure that Occupy Los Angeles Occupiers had adequate food, water and shelter.

[1StrongBlackMan]

48. Well ...

The cops in LA were far more concerned with protecting the Bank of America and Chase buildings than they were with making sure that Occupy Los Angeles Occupiers had adequate food, water and shelter.

Is the latter a traditional role for cops? I would have been happy if they had just not facilitated, then, accommodated, the violence committed.

[KingCharlemagne]

51. That's exactly the point that Socialist_n-TN is making: the cops in today's society

are there to protect and serve the interests of capital, not the interests of the people.

[socialist_n_TN]

58. Yep, you've got it KC. And as I said above.......

that actually has always been their function. From their start as slave patrols to return the escaped "property" of the slave owners to today. The function doesn't change.

[1StrongBlackMan]

61. That was also my point.

[frankieallen]

69. what are you saying, police were first create to catch escaped slaves? that is the

most ridiculous thing i have heard in a while.

[brush]

98. You should research it. There's some truth to that.

Here's a link. They became the police in many southern cities and towns after the Civil War.

Should explain some of the roots of racism towards blacks in many police departments.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slave_patrol

[frankieallen]

99. they created "slave patrols" to chase down runaways.

I don't doubt that, sick as it may be. But still, to say modern day "police" are a kind of "descendant" of these patrols is what i was commenting on.

[brush]

103. You must not have read all the way through

It says toward the end that they became the police in some southern cities and towns.

[AntiBank]

35. this^^^^^^^

[1StrongBlackMan]

45. +1 ... the violence just serves to deflect the cause and excuse the response.

[socialist_n_TN]

56. As Trotsky noted in this short piece in 1909........

against the anarchists of his time in Tsarist Russia. He said the same thing.

https://www.marxists.org/archive/trotsky/1911/11/tia09.htm

This is short and well worth reading. Believe it or not, the social forces and motives involved in the struggle against oppression hasn't really changed throughout history.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

60. I recall reading that.

thanks for the reminder.

[malaise]

93. Indeed

[still_one]

59. That is the problem. What happened in Dallas may now distract from the

killings of Alton Sterling, Philando Castile, Trayvon Martin, Freddie Gray, and others who have been wrongly killed and abused by some Police Officers, who should have never been part of a police force.

[1StrongBlackMan]

63. The problem is ... that is all bullshit ...

those being distracted didn't not give a damn, or at most, a passing thought about killings of Alton Sterling, Philando Castile, Trayvon Martin, Freddie Gray, and others who have been wrongly killed and abused ...

And, I suspect you know that.

[still_one]

68. Well if past history is any prediction of future events, then you are correct

I would like to think that things will get better though

[1StrongBlackMan]

90. I have no reason to think, or even hope, that ...

especially after reading some comments of the DUers that didn't give a damn about Trayvon Martin, Freddie Gray, and others who have been wrongly killed and abused ... are now being distracting from the recent killings because cops got shot, later.

[still_one]

100. gosh that's depressing

[1StrongBlackMan]

108. Yes ... I know. But, it is par for the course.

[Scootaloo]

75. It's not "may." It's "is."

I've heard nothing but Dallas cops all day long. The murders of black men by police in Louisna and Minnesota (and everywhere else) have just completely fallen off the radar.

[still_one]

86. That was my concern of what would happen

[melman]

8. I don't think it pains you

You and many others here seem eager to make excuses for this murderer.

[still_one]

10. Exactly. Whether it is the cold blooded murder of an African American for just being black,

or the random murder of a police officer for just being a police officer, and white, there is NO JUSTIFICATION for either one

[brush]

14. Did you post the same thing for the Baton Rouge and Minnesoto murderers?

And all the rest over the last couple of years?

[Photographer]

18. Yes, it does. The killings of five people last night in Dallas was terrible.

I make NO excuses for the murderer. I simply and not surprised this happened. I wish I was.

[Dreamer Tatum]

26. You implicitly excuse the murderer. You ABSOLUTELY do.

"So many killings with no one held accountable and later justified for wanton killings/executions....

The pressure has been building for years now and it's time to address the reasons behind the anger that took lives in Dallas last night."

Address the reasons? FUCK the reasons. There ARE no reasons. To say there ARE reasons is to justify its occurrence.

[Photographer]

36. No, I don't. The murderer should have been prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law

if he hadn't been blown up first. And if one cannot see reasons behind the attitudes of this deranged man, they appear to be deliberately obtuse.

[brush]

41. Give it a rest. You can't keep killing people year after year and no cop gets punished . . .

and not expect some blow back eventually.

Unfortunately for those Dallas cops, the guy who finally lost it over the years of killings of black men by cops with impunity, happened to live in Dallas and took it out on Dallas cops.

Our country is f_cked up in this regard. You kill enough people long enough, they get pissed and shoot back.

[1StrongBlackMan]

53. Some will understand what is being /has been said ... others will work hard to not understand ...

But, it's sad when any of the latter refer to themselves as liberals or progressives.

[smirkymonkey]

107. This!

Sometimes I really wonder what has happened to this place. I am constantly amazed by some of what I read here.

[1StrongBlackMan]

113. What has happened? ... Simple ...

Economic populism, happened.

[AntiBank]

44. of course there are reasons. Coppers are murdering people, especially

PoC, in fucking cold blood.

People are going to snap at some point and start killing back. It's basic human nature.

[still_one]

62. What justified the Zebra killings in the Bay Area in the seventies?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zebra_murders

Boston Marathon Bombers
San Bernardino killings
9/11
Alton Sterling
Philando Castil
Trayvon Martin
Freddie Gray

and thousands of other events where killing was used as justification

[AntiBank]

64. you seem to think I am calling the killings justified. I am not.

I am simply saying that when murder enough people of a certain typology, members of that group are going to kill back.

[still_one]

66. ok. Then I would suggest a qualification, that SOME police are killing and abusing African

Americans, and POC

[AntiBank]

74. I never said ACAB

I don't make rudimentary absolutist statements.

[still_one]

85. Then I read it wrong, and obviously misrepresented it in my exchange with you. Appreciate the

clarification, and sorry for my error

[Springslips]

121. Cause and effect.

You made a clear argument of cause and effect, not justification. People who can't see this are being willfully obtuse.

[mythology]

79. I think this view is really short sighted

If we make an effort to figure out was makes people commit violence, we can better attempt to protect against it. Not doing so under the guise of calling it excuse making just puts off finding a root cause that is more useful than hoping to not be the next victim.

One example of this is knowing that being the victim of child abuse are more likely to go on to commit violent crime or abuse their own children doesn't excuse their behavior, but it does give us a place to start trying to prevent child abuse in the future.

[Dreamer Tatum]

82. I do not recall such sophistry in the analysis of Dylann Roof.

What's that? Roof was driven by racism and hatred, and that's it?

So was this guy.

[rollin74]

9. "they"?

not all cops are responsible for what happened in Baton Rouge and elsewhere

the Dallas officers didn't deserve to die

[still_one]

13. absolutely. That is the same mind set the racists use when they abuse people of color.

[Photographer]

19. I guess I used "they" as a collective "we" as in American society.

[KingCharlemagne]

16. "All oppression breeds resistance." ~Mao - nt

[still_one]

37. Mao, a real humanitarian. The Cultural Revolution was a wonderful idea

and of course Mao was not oppressive

[AntiBank]

50. the statement is still true, regardless of the sourcing

[B2G]

17. I know, right?

I mean, they were out there doing their jobs, protecting a large group of people who where there protesting their very existence, and were shot in cold blood for their efforts.

I mean, what were they thinking??

[Photographer]

21. Pls see reply 19 above.

[Ash_F]

24. I take exception to your assertion that we were protesting their existence

See post #20

[rbrnmw]

47. Nobody was protesting Police existence

[AntiBank]

54. they were protesting racially targeted murder-by-cop

[Ash_F]

20. While DPD has serious problems, it is not like a lot of police forces that end up on the news

[bullsnarfle]

23. I think it goes way beyond

blowing folks away at traffic stops, etc. (and thanks to the proliferation of phone cameras we are able to actually see what has been happening on the low-down for a very long time).

I can't remember how many hundreds of times I have seen things like a black child gone missing and it seems no one (especially the fuzz) gives a rats ass. But just watch a blond/blue-eyed kid go missing and All Hell Breaks Loose!

Same thing if it's, say, a teenager getting shot. If the teen is black, well, meh, they were probably a hoodlum anyway, right? If the teen is white it's a Horrible Tragedy Oh My God The Humanity!

Been watching that sh*t all my life, and it just keeps getting suckier.

[KingCharlemagne]

34. ^^TRUTH^^ - nt

[jonno99]

57. Of course then there are these guys:

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/talks-suicidal-man-ledge-manhattan-bridge-drama-article-1.2701252

[Chemisse]

94. Amazing - and heartwarming n/t

[jonno99]

97. Yes. Sadly I think situations like this would be more the norm except for lack of trust

- coupled with (or driven by) fear.

We as a society have gotten ourselves into a viscous cycle; how to get out of it I don't know...

[Bradical79]

38. Yeah, unfortunately it is kind of inevitabile

Black people being murdered by police with no justice served, lax gun laws, right wing politicians talking about race wars and second amendment solutions, demonization of a non-violent protest movement... it's a powder keg.

You know somebody is going to snap and do something crazy. You can't look at any specific incident and say it was predictable, but in broad terms you know a crime like this was going to happen eventually.

[Photographer]

42. spot on.

[KingCharlemagne]

52. Christopher Dorner was prologue and prophetic. - nt

[MuttLikeMe]

110. Agreed.

[coco77]

46. The killing of black people has been

Going on for decades by police many are not reported many are unseen many know about it now because of cell phones and other technology.

[Nitram]

70. Reminds me if the Israelis vs the Palestinians.

[JCMach1]

71. Dallas was one of the places trying to get it right...

[lark]

72. Exactly!

Chief of Police in Dallas said people need to be careful what they say, need to support the police, police live in fear, etc. etc. Boo hoo, crocodile tears all around. If police acted respectful, they'd get respect. Instead they kill black people and rape women and treat brown minorities poorly, then want to whine when the guns are turned on them for a change. If police were treated like people by courts instead of like Gods, this wouldn't have happened. If police cared about others, this wouldn't have happened. Folks can only get pushed so far then snap. Unfortunately, now, police have a reason to fear so more people (especially black and brown folks) will get murdered for no reason. So sad, such a violent upward spiral of hate. I just kept thinking last night of what the fallout would be from this and it will not be anything good, I fear.

[WillowTree]

73. Predictably the "Two Wrongs Make a Right" contingent is out in force today. Sad. Really sad.

[840high]

117. Very sad. Bodies barely cold.

[elleng]

76. 'They' who?

Isn't 'they' really WE?

[frankieallen]

80. Psychotic asshole cowards who wanted to "kill white people", especially white officers.

You have to be a complete nut case to shoot 12 people, they is no better than any other of the murdering fucks that commit mass shootings all to often in this country. None of these police officers ever indiscriminately killed a black person, i'm sure that would of come out by now.
This incident does nothing to help the cause, in fact we will probably see more killings because of this. What were these people thinking they were going to accomplish? I can see the headlines now, "12 officers shot, 5 killed at Black Lives Matter protest"
Fuck'em, one is a stain on the sidewalk now, and the other 2 they caught will probably be put to death. Black people should not be happy about this, cops will be extra quick to pull the trigger now, they can use this as an excuse.

[YOHABLO]

83. murder is murder

[loyalsister]

87. It's possible to be horrified

and comprehend that the source of anger is real and legitimate. It's not unlike the blowback from Charlie Wilson's War and more recent recruitment success of youth whose parents, uncles, brothers..... have been killed in our war of choice. In both cases I can intellectually understand that the pain and anger must be unbearable. I find it comprehensible and unsurprising that people would respond with violence.
I am desperately hoping that we don't see more police targeted or police retaliation. If people of color were afraid before, now they are living in terror.

[annabanana]

96. thank you

Unfortunately the "fixes" for this horrible mess are slow and require education, regular, non-confrontational contact between people, honest good will and an ability to look unsparingly at oneself and one's expectations.

[Dworkin]

105. Blowback

...and comprehend that the source of anger is real and legitimate. It's not unlike the blowback from Charlie Wilson's War and more recent recruitment success of youth whose parents, uncles, brothers..... have been killed in our war of choice. In both cases I can intellectually understand that the pain and anger must be unbearable. I find it comprehensible and unsurprising that people would respond with violence.
I am desperately hoping that we don't see more police targeted or police retaliation. If people of color were afraid before, now they are living in terror.

loyal,

The thing with 'blowback' is that it is just that. It is a 'blow' back of exactly the same kind as the original blow. Some people call it action and reaction, cause and effect, payback... but the authoritarians know exactly what it is. That's why they never name it.

D.

[loyalsister]

109. I assume you're operating with a literal definition?

Blowback is a word that has been used metaphorocally to describe unintended consequences and or responses not predicted (although they may have been reasonably predictable).

Originally, blowback was CIA internal coinage denoting the unintended, harmful consequences—to friendly populations and military forces—when a given weapon is used beyond its purpose as intended by the party supplying it. Examples include anti-Western religious figures (e.g. Osama bin Laden) who, in due course, attack foe and sponsor; right-wing counter-revolutionaries who sell drugs to their sponsor’s civil populace (see CIA and Contras cocaine trafficking in the US); and banana republic juntas (see Salvadoran Civil War) who kill American reporters or nuns (e.g. Dorothy Kazel).[citation needed]

In formal print usage, the term blowback first appeared in the Clandestine Service History—Overthrow of Premier Mossadeq of Iran—November 1952–August 1953, the CIA's internal history of the 1953 Iranian coup d'état, sponsored by the US and UK, which was published in March 1954.[2][3] Blowback from this operation would indeed occur with the Iranian Revolution and the Iran hostage crisis. Recent accounts of how blowback functioned in the War on Terror relation to US and UK intelligence and defense propaganda and became an important issue in a 21st Century media environment are discussed by Dr Emma Louise Briant in her book Propaganda and Counter-terrorism which presents first hand accounts and discussions of deliberate and unintended consequences of blowback, oversight and impacts for the public. [4] [5]

Afghanistan and Al Qaeda[edit]
Examples of blowback include the CIA’s financing and support for Afghan insurgents to fight an anti-Communist proxy guerilla war against the USSR in Afghanistan; some of the beneficiaries of this CIA support joined al-Qaeda's terrorist campaign against the United States.[13] In relation to US propaganda, where black propaganda for foreign audiences might enter the domestic media there is little to prevent this occurring and protections and oversight have been criticised by Dr Emma Louise Briant. [14]

Syria and ISIS[edit]
During the Syrian Civil War, United States and Saudi Arabia supported and aided anti-Assad armed groups.[15][16] Some of those groups later shifted loyalty to ISIS.[17]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blowback_(intelligence)

If you have a problem with the CIAs use of the word, take it up with them.

[The Wizard]

91. White supremacistswith badges and weapons

don't view minorities as human.

[applegrove]

95. As Van Jones just said on CNN you do not blame all Christians for what

some radical christian did to an abortion clinic last year. So too you do not tie BLM to the psychopath who went out and killed 5 police last night. They are not the same thing. And I say you don't shutdown protests because of a psychopath who killed 5 police last night just like you never shut down all lgbt night clubs or primary schools or cinemas after the mass shooting that took place in places like that.

[liberalmuse]

101. Not all cops are bad.

I have to admit, my experience (rare firsthand, plenty of second-hand) with cops as a law-abiding white female has been less than encouraging. I can't even imagine what it must be like for people who are specifically targeted because of skin color. I'm sickened about the deaths in Dallas. I'm sickened about the deaths in MN and LA. These men did not deserve to die at the hands of a self-proclaimed executioner. Nobody does.

When you take an oath as an officer, you know there is a possibility of your dying in the line of duty. Your wife or SO experiences a lot of sleepless nights thinking about the possibility. These were human beings that were loved, and who will leave behind widows and fatherless children. This is a tragedy on all accounts. Then there is the fact that they chose this line of work, not truly believing that they will be the ones to get gunned down during an altercation. As a police officer, you go through training and then are handed a gun and a badge that represents a helluva lot of power to enforce the law using both your interpretation and the legal interpretation, and if you fuck up, the odds are overwhelmingly on your side.

On the other hand, there are people born melanin-rich who are targets without their consent. They are trying to get by in a society where they are 1,000 steps behind at birth, and where most people have no fucking clue what it's like. Their moms also experience a lot of sleepless nights and are almost resigned to the fact that their sons will not live to give them grandchildren. They did not choose this. And not only do they have to worry about institutionalized racism cutting down their offspring, but they deal with denial and apathy, because a large number of white people refuse to even recognize that there is racism and that racism is ingrained in their minds from birth.

The solution is that we all need to recognize and stand up for what is right. We all know skin color or uniforms don't make the human being. We need to stand up to people who think they do, and let them know without any reservations that they're fucking wrong.

[bucolic_frolic]

104. The President's 2014 task force

on policing had recommendations, don't know how many departments
accepted them

Some cities have succeeded, or partially turned around their policing shortfalls,
notable NYC to some extent and Philadelphia

It takes disciplined standards. Accountability, enforcement, performance goals.

I think the public needs behavior guidance too. There are reasons the police are
afraid. If everyone has standards and abides by them, there would be fewer
acts of violence on both sides.

Sad that the peaceful demonstration in Dallas was spoiled. Citizens were peaceful
to that point, the police were professional. Then the world was changed by the
gunmen.

[Skittles]

114. nice stereotyping

you make me sick

[Photographer]

120. What? Who was stereotyped here?

[Matt_R]

119. Just another false flag operation to condemn the protesters.

Move along nothing to see here in the "not" police state "USA"