REPORT:OFFICERS SHOT IN BATON ROUGE

[DemocratSinceBirth]

SMH/SIGH/VIOLENCE BEGETS VIOLENCE

[Chemisse]

1. Not good. Not good at all. n/t

[EL34x4]

2. Sigh...

It's gonna be a long summer.

[loyalsister]

13. As soon as they ruled

that there is a right to own weapons designed to kill people, they enumerated a right to kill.

[Marengo]

36. Does that include law enforcement and the armed forces?

[EL34x4]

52. That genie is out of the bottle.

200+ million privately owned firearms in America and they're not going anywhere.

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

3. Just broke on msnbc

"multiple people shot in Baton Rouge"

[Ilsa]

7. I think protest groups should ignore the RNC convention.

I worry that violence and making trouble will get them more sympathy, more attention, and distract from the pathetic convention they are trying to hold.

Let their delegates fight and shoot it out amongst themselves.

[Dreamer Tatum]

10. No kidding. Nt

[Marengo]

16. What a vile thing to say. What is your agenda?

[Statistical]

32. "I just want the racism in this country to stop!" Oh the irony. n/t

[calendargirl]

34. Praying that a white person committed this murder is racist

Who cares? Innocent people were just murdered.

[Joe the Revelator]

59. Don't cut yourself on all this edge...

[treestar]

81. The fall out is another issue

How people react will depend on who did it. Not a wrong issue to discuss.

[Chemisse]

83. But bad timing, really.

I'm self-deleting my posts. It's a discussion for another day, I think.

[enid602]

97. Old Hammond

I googled 'Old Hammond area of Baton Rouge,' then clicked on images. It is a very upscale neighborhood. Seems very random.

[Nancyswidower]

19. Mayor Holden says they were ambushed

[Calculating]

20. You hope the shooter is white>?

That's messed up.

[Ace Rothstein]

22. Par for the course for some posters around here.

[cherokeeprogressive]

67. Not that it's any excuse... but

I got out of bed just a few minutes after your post, turned on the TV, and when I heard the news I came to DU the way I always do, expecting to see better (aggregated) information than I normally get on the tube. Yours was the first post that stood out when I logged on. I'm sorry if I went overboard, and in retrospect I now completely understand why you posted what you did.

Please accept my apology. As I said, there's really no excuse for the way I responded and I'm sorry.

[Chemisse]

77. Omg - thank-you.

I am not used to being the focus of this level of wrath on DU, and it really bothers me.

But I totally understand that in the horror of first hearing of this, the last thing you want to see is a (seemingly) cold-hearted discussion of the racial implications. I should have been more careful with my words.

I hope the day gets better - for all of us.

[pintobean]

79. I'm glad that worked out.

You're both good people.

[cherokeeprogressive]

86. I think it just did.

[Ilsa]

5. oh, no.

This solves nothing. Only gets sympathy for LEOs, even those who cross the line. It steals attention from the cause of BLM, IMO.

[Marengo]

17. Is that all you care about, the diversion of attention? Fuck the families of the dead, right?

[Ilsa]

100. No of course not.

I thought the sympathy for the dead and their families would be obvious, especially for anyone who has survived DU as long as I have, but I guess everyone replying here needs to go thru the whole "thoughts and prayers" spiel to make sure everyone says the same obvious thing that politicians spew in public. I suppose it might be because DU is contaminated with vermin who do think, "Fuck the dead," but not me. This isn't just a good wishes message board, it's a place to discuss policy.

So no, I didn't say "fuck the dead."

[B2G]

21. Disgusting post. nt

[Ilsa]

101. No.

I thought the sympathy for the dead and their families would be obvious, especially for anyone who has survived DU as long as I have, but I guess everyone replying here needs to go thru the whole "thoughts and prayers" spiel to make sure everyone says the same obvious thing that politicians spew in public. I suppose it might be because DU is contaminated with vermin who do think, "Fuck the dead," but not me. This isn't just a good wishes message board, it's a place to discuss policy.

So no, I didn't say "fuck the dead."

[Joe the Revelator]

61. Seriously? This post is disgusting.

[DrDan]

65. so sympathy for 3 dead police officers is a bad thing - how strange

[pintobean]

87. "It steals attention from the cause of BLM"

steals

As if all attention belongs to them?

[Still In Wisconsin]

93. So sympathy for murdered cops is a bad thing?

What an utterly heartless post.

[Ilsa]

103. No.

You can discuss sympathy if that's all DU stands for, but I think the conversation needs to be bigger than that.

I thought the sympathy for the dead and their families would be obvious, especially for anyone who has survived DU as long as I have, but I guess everyone replying here needs to go thru the whole "thoughts and prayers" spiel to make sure everyone says the same obvious thing that politicians spew in public. I suppose it might be because DU is contaminated with vermin who do think, "Fuck the dead," but not me. This isn't just a good wishes message board, it's a place to discuss policy.

So no, I didn't say "fuck the dead."

[Still In Wisconsin]

108. Your exact words: "Only gets sympathy for LEOs"

See, I can cut and paste too.

You made an insensitive garbage post and now you want a pass. Everyone says and types awful things every so often. You got called on it. Own it.

[puffy socks]

95. The problem with

just focusing on BLM right now should be obvious.


Imo, BLM got their message out. They can continue to focus on that message while showing genuine sympathy for these victims and their families.

The two are not mutually exclusive.

BLM needs to build and that means being inclusive and showing they care about all lives, or the movement will fade as it will be seen as racist.

[Ilsa]

104. Thank you. Excellent post. nt

[840high]

99. How about the dead and

their families?

[Ilsa]

105. So what are we doing here?

Acting like politicians who spend three minutes on "thoughts and prayers" and ignore issues and policies?

I thought the sympathy for the dead and their families would be obvious, especially for anyone who has survived DU as long as I have, but I guess everyone replying here needs to go thru the whole "thoughts and prayers" spiel to make sure everyone says the same obvious thing. I suppose it might be because DU is contaminated with vermin who do think, "Fuck the dead," but not me.
So no, I didn't say "fuck the dead." If that was what I thought, I wouldn't have bothered even reading the OP, much less reply to it.

[840high]

106. ok

[uponit7771]

109. Link and quote BLM ... ACTIVIST ... involved? tia

[Cooley Hurd]

6. Link:

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/baton-rouge-police-reports-multiple-officers-shot-n611101?cid=sm_tw



On edit: 7 officers shot, 3 dead per CNN

[Chemisse]

15. Omg. So sad. n/t

[In_The_Wind]

23. !

[calendargirl]

31. Vile is praying that the shooter is of a particular race nt.

[Cooley Hurd]

37. You're the ONLY one doing that...

[Cooley Hurd]

43. Not as a response to my post, no...

On edit: I see, upthread, there was a comment about a "disgruntled employee" that has since been edited.

[Cooley Hurd]

46. Since edited, to the credit of the poster.

[pintobean]

54. Really, to be fair

the qualifying reason given for that comment made it understandable (even if unwise). Maybe you missed it, because I never took you to be a person who would falsely insinuate something like that.

[cherokeeprogressive]

70. You could not be more correct. I completely overreacted, and have apologized. nt

[pintobean]

76. That's the cherokeeprogressive I know and respect.

[seabeyond]

80. +1. Nt

[Chemisse]

84. It was unwise - and insensitive.

Which I realized as soon as I got out of defensive mode.

I just did a whole lot of self-deletion - lol.

[Chemisse]

53. Yeah I edited it.

People really interpreted it in a way that I did not mean.

[Cooley Hurd]

55. No worries, my friend!

[Chemisse]

56. Thanks - you are kind. n/t

[democrattotheend]

82. I disagree

Obviously, this is a horrible tragedy no matter who did it. That goes without saying. But I found myself thinking the same thing, not because of the election but because I think it is bad for our country to have events like this reinforcing the stereotypes about blacks that lead to the violence on both sides. If the shooters were black it will probably just make cops more trigger-happy when they see black people they think are scary. On the other hand, if the shooters were white, it reinforces the case against racial profiling and targeting of blacks by law enforcement.

I am white, in case that matters. But while I would have obviously greatly preferred that this didn't happen, since it did happen I hope it is not another racially charged incident that is only going to make things worse.

[Cooley Hurd]

30. WTFF???

[ChisolmTrailDem]

75. What did it say???

I really hate not being able to view a hidden post!

[Cooley Hurd]

78. It's complicated, but it was a response to a since-edited post

...that brought race into it.

[liberal N proud]

9. The Second Amendment has overridden the right to life.

[Cooley Hurd]

47. Even when Sixth Graders are massacred...

NOTHING overrides the Second Amendment.

[B2G]

11. Dear god. nt

[pintobean]

12. 7 shot, at least 3 dead - cnn

[Peacetrain]

25. Prayers sent for the families of the officers..

and those injured..

We do not know what caused this.. wait and see.. but the killing has to stop.. has to stop

[JaneyVee]

26. Repeal the 2nd Amendment.

No one really needs guns.

[Calculating]

27. Including the police?

Seems like a lot more citizens are killed by police, than the other way around.

[JaneyVee]

41. Eventually, yes.

[Joe the Revelator]

63. I'd argue that right now, it would seem that having a gun would be a great measure of protection.

[JaneyVee]

88. Protection from what?

[Joe the Revelator]

89. The world. Being in public.

[JaneyVee]

91. I've lived in NYC my whole life and never needed a gun.

Never even had to call the police.

[Joe the Revelator]

92. I sincerely hope your luck continues. nt

[Marengo]

96. Your experience is universally transferrable, to everyone?

[seabeyond]

102. Sheeeit, in 20's I was a bartender in Reno, playing in the early mornings and did not need nor

want a gun. Woman in my 20's not afraid. Yet, these men in totally low, very low to non existence risk situation so afraid, they must carry guns with them at all times. Makes no sense to me.

[Still In Wisconsin]

94. I wish you weren't right...

but I'm afraid you are.

[B2G]

28. Scanner saying 3 shooters reported

by witnesses, one with a cell phone video.

This is sounding like an ambush...possibly started with a 911 call.

[UnFettered]

38. Latest update, still on going situation.

http://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/news/crime_police/article_70595fc8-4c2a-11e6-8d54-8fde922185e6.html

[6chars]

39. Is this terrorism?

[UnFettered]

44. Not sure about whole story yet.

There have been conflicting reports of the incident.

Some say it might have been officers serving a drug search warrant. Other have said it may have been a ambush. A lot of officers hang out at that perticular B-Quick store. So a ambush may have been possible.

Some of the Facebook live streams have said they saw at least one man in a mask.

[maryellen99]

51. I'm to the point of losing faith in humanity/people

With all the violence/political upheaval plus finding out this week that my husband has cancer I'm ready to just hide.

[Marengo]

98. So sorry to hear that. It does seem to pile on, doesn't it?

[maryellen99]

107. Yep it does nt

[SMC22307]

110. Best wishes to you and your husband.

[maryellen99]

111. He goes to see his nephrologist tomorrow nt

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

57. MSNBC - State rep on phone says 4 officers killed, 3 shooters, 1 captured 2 on the loose

Unconfirmed by nbc.

[sofa king]

58. Oh god, please no!

My heart breaks again, and again I remind myself and everyone else that the cycle of violence stops only when people stop the violence.

[nitpicker]

60. Link to BBC

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-36820782

[hrmjustin]

62. My prayers for these officers and their families.

[Boudica the Lyoness]

66. Violents begets violents!!!???? What the fuck.

[jmg257]

69. That's it? 1 post and that's all ya got? nt

[Democat]

71. Yeah, like when 9/11 happened during Obama's presidency

Bye.

[Calculating]

72. Oh boy

You're gonna be real popular here.

[cherokeeprogressive]

73. A one-post flameout. My favorite kind.

[Ace Rothstein]

74. Just spent a week in Canada, ready to go back.

[pintobean]

85. WAFB - Revised, 6 shot, 3 dead.

[retrowire]

90. hmmm... nt