Two women killed this morning in Titusville hospital.

[lpbk2713]

Police call it a random shooting. It's hard to figure. Apparently some nut was wandering around with a gun at 2 AM on the third floor of a hospital and decided to shoot two people he didn't even know. Kudos to the two unarmed security guards who took him down.

Link: http://www.wftv.com/news/local/police-2-fatally-shot-at-titusville-hospital-gunman-arrested/404585248

[Ohioblue22]

1. No guns involved? Oh the gun worshippers aren't gonna be happy about that

[SheilaT]

2. The story says fatally shot.

Somehow, I may be going out on a limb here, but I'm going to make the wild guess that guns were involved.

[Warpy]

3. I've never seen hospital cops who weren't armed

but I've always worked in big city hospitals where things might be a bit different.

[SheilaT]

4. The security officers at the hospital in Santa Fe are not armed.

I would not want them to be.

I worked there for three and a half years, and saw several of them talk down some pretty sketchy patients/visitors. Much better way to deal with things.

[Warpy]

5. I agree and I've never worked where those weapons have been fired, only drawn.

I imagine the Santa Fe guys have pepper spray and a couple of other things on their belts.

However, they seem to have done a good job here of training the guys in threat reduction. That just doesn't stop them all.

[SheilaT]

6. I do not believe they have pepper spray.

Or if they do, they have never ever made use of that stuff.

To pepper spray someone in the ER, for instance, really, really wouldn't be a very good thing to do. Nor anywhere else in the hospital. And even drawing a weapon escalates things in a way generally inappropriate in a hospital.

When we have prisoners as inmates or in the ER, they are always accompanied by armed law enforcement. That's as much as is ever needed, in my opinion.

Several years back, after some shooting incident in some hospital elsewhere in the country, the CEO asked employees at various meetings if we wanted the security guys armed. The NO was practically unanimous.

[Warpy]

7. You also don't have the level of violence we do.

Our guards were armed.

Yeah, I know about all the junkies in Espanola and the gangs supplying them. Different thing, completely.

Inmates are usually the safest ones. Well, except for the guy from the Jamaican Dog Posse in Boston who had chest pains on his way to being deported after his sentence was served. Cops (two or three) had their hands on their weapons every time I went into his room.