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struggle4progress

(118,290 posts)
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 03:11 PM Jul 2016

Motion for pretrial release previews Bundys' defense

By Maxine Bernstein | The Oregonian/OregonLive
on July 17, 2016 at 5:00 AM, updated July 17, 2016 at 10:30 AM

... "The specific steps and lengths to which these defendants endeavored, including the establishment of a perimeter, the changing of the sign and renaming of the facility, the taking over of routine maintenance and cleaning, and the managing and control of the property all show that this was no random or spontaneous act of dangerousness or recklessness, but that it was a careful attempt by citizens acting in good faith... and in lawful protest of their government's actions,'' the attorney wrote ...

Attached to the brief is 58 pages of statements from ... a Burns bartender who said business was good in town during the refuge takeover; a fifth-generation Harney County rancher who visited the refuge and said he heard Ammon Bundy lead prayer services, even calling for the safety of FBI agents and other federal officers; and the former Harney County fire chief who resigned during the occupation and stood in support of the Bundys ...

The Bundys' "lawful exercise of constitutional and statutory rights'' cannot be an unlawful conspiracy, Mumford wrote, as they were exercising their rights to free speech, assembly, and the right to bear arms ...

The Bundys were attempting what's called an "adverse possession claim'' to the refuge - the occupation of land to which another person has title with the intention of possessing it as one's own, the motion said ...


http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2016/07/ammon_bundys_motion_for_pretri.html

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Motion for pretrial release previews Bundys' defense (Original Post) struggle4progress Jul 2016 OP
They had every right to protest in assembly. Volaris Jul 2016 #1

Volaris

(10,271 posts)
1. They had every right to protest in assembly.
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 03:37 PM
Jul 2016

Doing so on Federal Property gets you arrested, because it's a crime..because it's FEDERAL PROPERTY.
See, the thing about Civil Disobedience thats usually effective is the DISOBEYING part...that means you know you're breaking the law and should expect to be arrested and face the consequences of your crime.

These illiterate babies wanted to disobey, but not suffer any consequences. Fuck them, if for no other reason than what is the point of having a Hobbesian Leviathan of a Government if it isn't given a massively large hammer to swing when it needs to?

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