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Youtube channel of Baton Rouge Shooter (Original Post) Joe the Revelator Jul 2016 OP
Scary stuff. Nt Dreamer Tatum Jul 2016 #1
The rest of his videos Joe the Revelator Jul 2016 #2
How many times are you going to post this crap? 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #3
If you don't like the content, don't blame me. Joe the Revelator Jul 2016 #4
But you are the guy that has been posting it all day ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #13
It just came out a half hour or so ago, so...i mean..already with the hyperbole. Joe the Revelator Jul 2016 #14
I don't mind you posting it metroins Jul 2016 #41
I hadn't seen it either DashOneBravo Jul 2016 #60
The OP has been attempting to push a narrative KMOD Jul 2016 #5
Facts are not a narrative.... Joe the Revelator Jul 2016 #8
If this has been confirmed, then it is quite apparent KMOD Jul 2016 #10
Or another young person radicalized nt Joe the Revelator Jul 2016 #11
In case you're implying that I'm making shit up, CBS confirms it's him Joe the Revelator Jul 2016 #6
No ... I am saying that you are pushing a narrative ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #24
Sure, we can talk about whatever you want Joe the Revelator Jul 2016 #26
LOL ... How is that related to ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #27
You're just playing games. If you want to explain to me how white people made this guy kill 3 police Joe the Revelator Jul 2016 #30
Before I engage your, "how is this white people's fault?" question ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #35
Thanks Socrates.. Joe the Revelator Jul 2016 #36
I'm not mad at you, just tired and somewhat bored ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #47
lol pintobean Jul 2016 #42
Yes. I do. 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #48
Right melman Jul 2016 #45
1SBM, why is it crap, exactly? Dreamer Tatum Jul 2016 #12
I think repeated, individual posts on the same topic is ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #15
Yes. But how does that make the content crap? Dreamer Tatum Jul 2016 #16
The crap is the over-kill and/or agenda pushing that you acknowledge. 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #18
Again, what agenda would I be pushing by posting the shooters own words? Joe the Revelator Jul 2016 #19
The very act of posting it at all is offensive to 1SBM. Because you simply posted it, you... ChisolmTrailDem Jul 2016 #38
Yep melman Jul 2016 #46
The only time I've posted it outside of this thread is when people are mistakenly saying... Joe the Revelator Jul 2016 #17
Yeah ... Okay! Remember, DU has a search function. 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #22
I suggest you use it. nt Joe the Revelator Jul 2016 #23
Find anything yet? Joe the Revelator Jul 2016 #32
We're waiting, please post the results of your DU search. nt ChisolmTrailDem Jul 2016 #39
This is the first OP on the videos ive seen yeoman6987 Jul 2016 #51
It's relevant Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #34
The 4th time? 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #37
Still using the search function to find where I posted this just BOOM! out of the blue? Joe the Revelator Jul 2016 #44
The scary thing is... philosslayer Jul 2016 #7
He has a video about good grocery stores to shop at and how to fit more vegetables into your diet Joe the Revelator Jul 2016 #9
So the guy is not a Sovereign Citizen? generalwoody Jul 2016 #20
The videos speak for themselves (in the man's own words) nt Joe the Revelator Jul 2016 #21
Did anyone actually watch the video?? generalwoody Jul 2016 #25
He also said he was a christian The Straight Story Jul 2016 #49
Not this video. You must be thinking of another one. kwassa Jul 2016 #52
He does identify his nationality as sovereign gwheezie Jul 2016 #54
A Lone Wolf bravenak Jul 2016 #28
or a crazy fox. JonathanRackham Jul 2016 #29
His Amazon page.Cosmo Setepenra's books grossproffit Jul 2016 #31
His amazon bio KMOD Jul 2016 #40
Good info. Thanks! BKH70041 Jul 2016 #33
The harsh truth is that people are fed up. Really really fed up. ecstatic Jul 2016 #43
Folks seemed really excited about claiming he was a white supremacist earlier in the day oberliner Jul 2016 #50
This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Jul 2016 #56
I watched this entire video. Why did you post it? kwassa Jul 2016 #53
Because it's newsworthy, it's the thoughts of a person who did a very terrible act... Joe the Revelator Jul 2016 #55
He talks about killing melman Jul 2016 #57
Malcolm X said "by any means necessary" StrictlyRockers Jul 2016 #58
I agree. Joe the Revelator Jul 2016 #59
 

Joe the Revelator

(14,915 posts)
14. It just came out a half hour or so ago, so...i mean..already with the hyperbole.
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 08:18 PM
Jul 2016

Seriously, it is what it is. Just facts, man.

metroins

(2,550 posts)
41. I don't mind you posting it
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 09:19 PM
Jul 2016

This is my first time seeing it, I was working all day.

This guy's fucking nuts though.

The victim mentality is strong with him.

 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
10. If this has been confirmed, then it is quite apparent
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 08:11 PM
Jul 2016

that we are dealing with another killer with mental health issues.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
24. No ... I am saying that you are pushing a narrative ...
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 08:35 PM
Jul 2016

Long was/is a bigot ... We got that.

Now ... can we talk about the white supremacist system in which he/we/I live, and how that might be relevant to Long's actions?

 

Joe the Revelator

(14,915 posts)
26. Sure, we can talk about whatever you want
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 08:37 PM
Jul 2016

Bigots get no excuses from me, no matter what color their skin is.

 

Joe the Revelator

(14,915 posts)
30. You're just playing games. If you want to explain to me how white people made this guy kill 3 police
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 08:46 PM
Jul 2016

then by all means, explain that to me and make all the excuses you want.

And I'm being transparent because I'm not trying to hide anything. Unlike you, I don't constantly play word games.

It is what it is, this was a radical black dude who hated white people and wanted other blacks to rise up in a revolution. Like other crackpots, he thought the best way to make that happen was to touch off the powder keg himself.

Now your turn, how is this white people's fault?

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
35. Before I engage your, "how is this white people's fault?" question ...
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 09:07 PM
Jul 2016

Let me ask ... what is your understanding of white supremacy? And, how do you imagine people suffering under such a system might respond?

To help you understand my point, please re-visit the "populist" election of 2016 arguments, the Brexit arguments, and all that is discussed in progressive spaces.

 

Joe the Revelator

(14,915 posts)
36. Thanks Socrates..
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 09:12 PM
Jul 2016

You get mad at me for not starting the conversation you want to have. I start it for you, then you completely ignore my entire post and pose a completely different question.


I reframe my initial question and we can go from there.

In your opinion, what travesty did this man undergo at the hand's of the 'white supremacist system' that would explain why he would think that killing 3 cops was a rational and justifiable action to take? At what point, in your argument, does murder become unavoidable and a response to the system, instead of the responsibility of the killer?

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
47. I'm not mad at you, just tired and somewhat bored ...
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 09:45 PM
Jul 2016
In your opinion, what travesty did this man undergo at the hand's of the 'white supremacist system' that would explain why he would think that killing 3 cops was a rational and justifiable action to take?


I cannot speak to Long's personal experience; but, clearly, his calling was, to him, not less compelling than the calls to "revolution" made by progressives regarding "neoliberalism"/economic inequality.

At what point, in your argument, does murder become unavoidable and a response to the system, instead of the responsibility of the killer?


Murder (or killing) is never an appropriate response to systemic inequities.

Dreamer Tatum

(10,926 posts)
12. 1SBM, why is it crap, exactly?
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 08:14 PM
Jul 2016

Evidently the channel is Long's, and that's him in the videos. He killed several people today. How are those videos crap? People have speculated about him all day. Are the videos not allowed to be part of the information people use to speculate?
 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
15. I think repeated, individual posts on the same topic is ...
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 08:20 PM
Jul 2016

over-kill and/or agenda pushing ... don't you?

And BTW ... If I comment that the sky is blue, will you feel the need to question it or ask me how I came to that conclusion?

Dreamer Tatum

(10,926 posts)
16. Yes. But how does that make the content crap?
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 08:22 PM
Jul 2016

It makes it inconvenient for certain narratives, but doesn't make it any less real.

 

Joe the Revelator

(14,915 posts)
19. Again, what agenda would I be pushing by posting the shooters own words?
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 08:28 PM
Jul 2016

In threads trying to paint a black man into a white supremacist? How much logic do we have to suspend to let that dog hunt?

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
38. The very act of posting it at all is offensive to 1SBM. Because you simply posted it, you...
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 09:15 PM
Jul 2016

...have an agenda, apparently.

 

melman

(7,681 posts)
46. Yep
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 09:37 PM
Jul 2016

The content makes him very uncomfortable so he needs to shout it down. Could not be more obvious.

 

Joe the Revelator

(14,915 posts)
17. The only time I've posted it outside of this thread is when people are mistakenly saying...
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 08:23 PM
Jul 2016

...that the shooter was a member of a white power org. Shouldn't the man's own words be used to counter bullshit?

 

Joe the Revelator

(14,915 posts)
44. Still using the search function to find where I posted this just BOOM! out of the blue?
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 09:35 PM
Jul 2016

1 thread
a couple of times when people were pushing the false idea that he was a black white supremacist.

What else do you have?

 

Joe the Revelator

(14,915 posts)
9. He has a video about good grocery stores to shop at and how to fit more vegetables into your diet
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 08:09 PM
Jul 2016

That stuff was actually pretty interesting.

 

generalwoody

(6 posts)
20. So the guy is not a Sovereign Citizen?
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 08:28 PM
Jul 2016

I was on here not even an hour ago and there were three threads saying that was the case.

 

generalwoody

(6 posts)
25. Did anyone actually watch the video??
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 08:36 PM
Jul 2016

He stated his hatred of cops, white people, etc..
Then he says this:

Yeah, I also was a Nation of Islam member. Don’t affiliate me with it. Don’t affiliate me with anything.”

gwheezie

(3,580 posts)
54. He does identify his nationality as sovereign
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 12:47 AM
Jul 2016

At one point. There are anti government groups of all stripes.

 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
40. His amazon bio
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 09:18 PM
Jul 2016

About the Author

Cosmo is a nutritionist, life coach, dietitian, personal trainer, author and spiritual advisor. At the age of sixteen, after self-educating himself about fitness, nutrition, and diet, Cosmo lost over eighty pounds in six months. He then joined the United States Marine Corps and earned the rank of Sergeant (E-5) in less than three years as one of the Corps most physically fit Marines. During his five years as a Marine, Cosmo spent two years in Japan and did one tour in Iraq. While stationed in San Diego, California, Cosmo became a highly esteemed and sought after nutritionist and personal trainer. After completing an Associate's degree in General Studies at Central Texas College, Cosmo then attended Clark Atlanta University to further his education. After a year and a half at Clark Atlanta as a dean's list student, he had a spiritual revelation that resulted in him dropping out of college, selling his two cars, giving away all of his material possessions, packing two suitcases and journeying to Africa-his ancestral homeland. While in Africa, Cosmo's spiritual journey took him across Rwanda, Ethiopia, Uganda, Kenya, Tanzania, Egypt, Ghana and Burkina Faso. During that time he frequented the highly treasured and revered mountainous regions of Africa and was taught by Africa's native spiritual practitioners and elder holistic healers. Cosmo has been an avid student of nutrition, health, fitness, personal transformation and spiritual mastery since the age of sixteen. He conducts sports nutrition workshops locally, nationally, and internationally. He has traveled nationally to over thirty States in the U.S., and internationally to The Bahamas, Japan, Korea, Thailand, Maldives (Island country near India), Iraq, and Africa to name a few. In addition to over twelve years of health, fitness, and nutrition experience, Cosmo also has extensive sports nutrition, life-coach, and spiritual counseling experience with fitness enthusiasts, professional athletes and spiritual seekers. In one-on-one sessions, he coaches his clients on ways to create a daily food plan that is successful and can be maintained over the long-term. He also helps them reach their optimal weight, diet, spiritual and personal growth goals.

BKH70041

(961 posts)
33. Good info. Thanks!
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 08:55 PM
Jul 2016

He had most definitely reached the conclusion that protest wasn't going to go anywhere and that "blood and money" was the only language that would make people listen. I've heard those same points made in more subtle ways by some activists in the last few months. Wouldn't surprise me to learn this influenced him.

After Dallas I kinda figured there might be some copycat actions. Sad to see that might very well be the case.

ecstatic

(32,705 posts)
43. The harsh truth is that people are fed up. Really really fed up.
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 09:31 PM
Jul 2016

Peaceful protests have been going on for over 2 years now. NOTHING has been accomplished. Cops can still kill unarmed, law abiding citizens without concern over cameras or anything because the rules don't apply to them.

What we need RIGHT NOW is for Congress to update the civil rights act with protections against unwarranted police murder, brutality, profiling, and harassment. Nothing short of that will calm things down.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
50. Folks seemed really excited about claiming he was a white supremacist earlier in the day
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 11:42 PM
Jul 2016

For some odd reason.

Response to oberliner (Reply #50)

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
53. I watched this entire video. Why did you post it?
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 11:50 PM
Jul 2016

Through most of it he talks about how people should stand up for their rights, which is fine. He also has some wisdom from Africa that is mostly sexist crap. He also considers himself a deep thinker, which is both narcissistic and delusional.

 

Joe the Revelator

(14,915 posts)
55. Because it's newsworthy, it's the thoughts of a person who did a very terrible act...
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 01:18 AM
Jul 2016

...why wouldn't it be posted?

StrictlyRockers

(3,855 posts)
58. Malcolm X said "by any means necessary"
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 02:30 AM
Jul 2016

He had the means and he felt it was necessary. His opinions weren't formed in a vacuum, and he actually comes across to me as not insane, just misguided, wrong and extra ready to fight something.

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