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Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 02:09 PM Jul 2016

Bill Maher accuses Frank Luntz of being the lying liar he is.

Here's proof. Among other obvious fabrications, made-up statistics, and misleading statements, he claimed Reagan's approval rating upon leaving office was 61%, the most clearly provable huge lie he told in the segment shown below.


http://www.gallup.com/poll/11887/ronald-reagan-from-peoples-perspective-gallup-poll-review.aspx

This is what the man DOES for a living: lies and lies and lies, then lies some more, using his 'focus groups,' to manipulate low information news consumers, who take his BS assertions at face value, appealing to emotion with constant lies. Luntz is the consummate student of Edward Bernays.
http://www.endofthenet.org/archives/8051

He and Gingrich were the ones who instituted the Control of Language program that transformed the political landscape in the early 90s, and set the stage for 20+ years of Hillary vilification, resulting in the narrative of her untrustworthiness.

http://fair.org/extra/language-a-key-mechanism-of-control/

This interview with Luntz shows what a lying snake in the grass this guy his, with Maher leaving him stammering several times in search of a reasonable answer to Maher's accusations.



Luntz, btw, is being PAID by CBS. So, apparently, is Norah ODonnell, who, in between her gig there and the one at NBC, became a paid shill for various RW causes, chiefly, for-profit charter schools.
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Initech

(100,104 posts)
2. I can't believe he countered that with "90% of statistics are made up on the spot".
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 03:00 PM
Jul 2016

I actually heard that used in a televised debate.

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
3. it was really interesting to see Luntz talk so someone who, for a
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 03:07 PM
Jul 2016

change, wasn't taking all the BS spewing from his mouth and letting it just sit there unrefuted. he clearly isn't used to that. our liberal media bobbleheads almost never give him and his ilk the grilling they deserve, especially when they pull garbage like that straight from the bung hole.

It took me as long as it takes to type 'Reagan final approval rating' to find out the exact degree of his lie, because I knew that was grade A horseshit the moment he said it. it's truly amazing how they just lie without the slightest compunction, mostly certain that nobody will bother to call them out.

applegrove

(118,807 posts)
4. Maher didn't get away with the Reagan end popularity quib. Didn't let him
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 03:09 PM
Jul 2016

get away with much and it was hard luntz came so fast. What a dissembling, immature, idiot Luntz is.

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
6. that's the tough thing about confronting these liars when they
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 03:19 PM
Jul 2016

toss out statistics, and all one can do is say that you don't think they're correct, without actual empirical support. I knew he was lying, but had the chance to immediately check the real numbers. Maher didn't have that luxury. he needs some earpiece pals.

unless they're slapped down hard, with tangible evidence, at the point of the lie being told, the major impression is that received from the liar.

that's why Hillary is getting KILLED on email thing, with the perceived convential wisdom now being established that Comey was right on target with his error filled accusations....fables that have become fact. this could turn out to be her Swiftboating. dems have probably let it go too long already, even though it's only been a couple of weeks. it's established narrative, and almost impossible to reverse.

applegrove

(118,807 posts)
7. Agreed the email thing hurt Hillary last week. But then Trump wentt
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 03:27 PM
Jul 2016

on 60 Minutes with Pence and people remembered the actual state of the election and what is at stake.

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
8. her numbers are tanking, and the liberal media are attributing it
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 03:32 PM
Jul 2016

to email....I watched as much of it as I could today on CNN and MSNBC, and they looked like they were going to spontaneously orgasm as they discussed how numbers were changing for the potato because of the email 'scandal,' mentioning Comey's screed, more often than not, as the reason for the devastating effects. not a single word of truth regading the FACT that not one of the 300 emails exchanged had a single verifiable classified marking, to which fact Comey had to cop in front of congress. NOT ONE WORD!!!

applegrove

(118,807 posts)
10. Yes but it was brilliant that Maher had a sense that it was a lie and without
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 03:38 PM
Jul 2016

actual numbers behind him said he would have to check on that. Authentic wins when dealing with such people and Maher was authentic.

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
11. agree on that.....Luntz came off looking extremely inauthentic, as well
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 03:44 PM
Jul 2016

as unable to respond effectively when countered with effective rebuttal. that smug, ballooning prick is just not used to having his nuggets of wisdom questioned

I will give him one thing: his rug is much better tended-to than in the old days

that said, whatever happened to John Fund?

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
13. and your point regarding this particular exchange would be?
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 03:46 PM
Jul 2016

I agree that he's quite the dick, and quite often, but did you watch the clip?

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
14. a thing of beauty, yes? I have a particular loathing for this monster,
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 03:56 PM
Jul 2016

and I don't use the word loosely, because his role in the destruction of the body politic looms large.

he's a key participant in the spread of the political political plague that descended upon the nation with the advent of GOPAC, Gringrich, Limbaugh, and the congressional takeover in 95. we all know what happened from then on, starting with Whitewater.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/01/27/us/politics/27gingrich-text.html?_r=0

did you hear a word about the above article, and his control of language BS, one word, during this cycle?

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
15. don't forget about me (being frank, that is)
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 06:05 PM
Jul 2016


and don't forget to write CBS and his and ODonnell's presence as PAID propagandists

really pisses me off.....

my email to them:
How DARE you pay propagandists like Frank Luntz and Norah ODonnell, and pretend they're informing the public, instead of spreading lies every time they open their mouths, especially Luntz?

Shame on you. I know this will have zero effect, but Luntz is almost as egregious a liar as the Republican candidate for president. To think that you'd have one of the two men most responsible for the rise of the republican party as is stands today is beyond nauseating.


here, do it yourself project. that took about 30 seconds

http://audienceservices.cbs.com/feedback/fb_global_thanks.shtml
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