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fizzgig

(24,146 posts)
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 12:59 PM Jun 2012

i want to take a minute to thank all firefighters for their service

for six days now, an army of career and volunteer firefighters have fought around the clock against the beast of a fire burning just east of me in northern colorado. in the first days of the fire they worked 16, 18, 20 hours straight as they waited for reinforcements. crews are still fighting around the clock.

they cards have been stacked against them. hot, dry weather and the gusting, swirling winds we get so often. rugged terrain. huge swaths of beetle killed trees. i can't imagine the desperation they must have felt the first few days when the fire more than quadrupled in size and all they could do was play defense, the tears they fought back when telling us there was no hope of containment at the time. sunday was a day of particular despair as the smoke blanketed town, a blood red sun glowing behind the clouds, the sky a vision of the end of the world.

years ago i worked for the local rag and had the pleasure of getting to know many of the firefighters in town. i geared up with them and went through the burn buildings, i experienced a moment of panic in a stairwell that was nothing but black and smoke. that was taxing enough, both physically and emotionally. the fire was, and still is in some areas, like a snapshot of hell.

these men and women risk their safety and lives to protect us, some for no pay. hundreds of them from across the country have been deployed to help us, people with no ties to the community, people i will never be able to personally thank. my city remains safe because of them.

the fire is up to 50,000 acres with only 10 percent containment, growth has slowed, but one edge is spreading into an area that is 70 percent beetle killed trees. this has the potential to get much, much bigger as it moves west.

this is where my dad used to take me hiking as a kid


and a wider view of the fire


my most heartfelt gratitude to all firefighters, here and across the world

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i want to take a minute to thank all firefighters for their service (Original Post) fizzgig Jun 2012 OP
Stay safe! madamesilverspurs Jun 2012 #1
please pass my gratitude on to your brother and nephew fizzgig Jun 2012 #3
The Question Is TheMastersNemesis Jun 2012 #2
i whole heartedly agree that they deserve more than they get fizzgig Jun 2012 #4
I understand TheMastersNemesis Jun 2012 #5
K & R thread here. freshwest Jun 2012 #6
thank you so much for your insight fizzgig Jun 2012 #8
DURec. bvar22 Jun 2012 #7
the volunteers deserve special recognition, imo fizzgig Jun 2012 #9

madamesilverspurs

(15,811 posts)
1. Stay safe!
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 01:10 PM
Jun 2012

Your words convey your heartbreak over the devastation. Like you, my childhood memories are full of Colorado's mountains, and I was looking forward to introducing these mountains to a new member of our family; understandably, they are considering delaying their visit.

As for firefighters -- one of my brothers is a firefighter in Washington State, his son is a firefighter in Arizona. Heroes? Hell yes!

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fizzgig

(24,146 posts)
3. please pass my gratitude on to your brother and nephew
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 01:20 PM
Jun 2012

i will forever be in awe of their service.

the devastation is heartbreaking, but i know the new life and beauty that will spring from it. i remember the pingree park fire years ago and the story i wrote for the 10th (?) anniversary of the fire. the new growth was healthy and beautiful, i am hoping i can say the same thing ten years from now.

how's the air out there? it's hazy here and the smoke seems to blow into town more late at night and early in the morning. that's a smell we all love so well, the smell of a campfire, but this has robbed that wonderful smell of all joy.

 

TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
2. The Question Is
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 01:14 PM
Jun 2012

The question is will Larimer County go for Romney in November like it went for the GOP in 2010 and put Cory Gardner in who supports such cuts. Romney and the GOP want to fire all these people because we have too many firemen, policemen and government employees. If we do not protect their jobs and their interests who will protect our interests. I am a Vietnam veteran and Romney accepts the Ryan budget which will supposedly cut $11 billion from veterans programs.

Our fight fighters, police and public servants deserve more than pink slips and job insecurity. If anything these firefighters should get double the pay they get for fighting these fire. Their economic value is much more than they get in return.

They deserve much more than our thanks. They deserve to know that their families will be economically protected as aggressively as they protect others.

fizzgig

(24,146 posts)
4. i whole heartedly agree that they deserve more than they get
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 01:27 PM
Jun 2012

but larimer county is actually bluer than you might think. the county went for obama by a decent margin in 2008, as well as by a very large margin for betsy markey against that witch marilyn musgrave. markey squeaked past gardener here in 2010.

redistricting has moved at least fort collins into jared polis' district, i can't wait to be out from under the conservatism of the fourth cd. please don't blame us for the righties on the plains.

 

TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
5. I understand
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 01:54 PM
Jun 2012

I lost Polis here as my rep. I ended up with Pearlmutter who is facing Coors.

I hope Larimer goes blue again. I understand your thanks. But eve some people who call themselves Republicans that the must realize that we need fire men, police and public servants who maintain the core of our infrastructure and make our comfort even possible. I worked at DOL and am familiar with all kinds of dangerous public occupations where decent pay and pensions are essential. There are more occupations than anyone realizes where a person cannot work much past 60 and are even a danger to themselves and others even when they are over 50.

Most public servants are not severely overpaid. The public servants in question with high retirements are usually upper management types. The rank and file retire on little more than they would get under social security. Professional public servants get paid at a level a little lower than private counter parts.

The general public would be better off demanding better pay in the private sector and be demanding parity with public service jobs. The present "work at will" model for the private sector is only a one way street that favors business. Many workers are getting less money so they can support their grossly overpaid CEO. The focus of pay should be limits on how much CEO's get for what they do. The gap between the upper management and regular workers is way out of line.

As for the fire. It is beautiful country up there. It is sad to see such damage. As I understand it a lot of federal resources are now there. And there is no way that local entities even in the states can such disasters be handled. We all would be out of luck without federal assistance under certain circumstances.

Every time I go through Glenwood Springs I remember the cost of that fire. Get trapped by a crowning fire your goose is cooked.

Thanks for the impressive pictures.

fizzgig

(24,146 posts)
8. thank you so much for your insight
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 01:04 AM
Jun 2012

and, yes, you are correct that we would be up the creek without a paddle without the federal resources. gov. hickelooper was up here earlier that week and the president called during that trip to ask if they had the resources they need.

i am sad to see the destruction, i just have to keep reminding myself it is necessary for the health of the forest itself.

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