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JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 04:27 PM Jun 2012

Dylan Ratigan appears to be a chalk board short of becoming Glenn Beck.

In his first segment, he started by saying that both sides are the same. And then he asked his guest what we should do, and that guy said we need to invest more in infrastructure and education, and raise taxes on the rich. Humm, which candidate also says that?

Then DR goes on to explain how both sides will raise over 1 billion dollars. He makes no mention of how much the GOP will raise, versus Obama.

He might as well be telling his viewers to stay home and not vote, they are screwed, and they have no path forward.

If only he had a chalk board to make his point more clearly.

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Dylan Ratigan appears to be a chalk board short of becoming Glenn Beck. (Original Post) JoePhilly Jun 2012 OP
I couldn't agree more plus I do not think it's an accident flamingdem Jun 2012 #1
I don't think that's what's driving his leaving. JoePhilly Jun 2012 #6
Good observation about Alex Wagner flamingdem Jun 2012 #11
Her show started strong ... and I get the sense that the execs reigned her in JoePhilly Jun 2012 #14
When Alex wagner first got that show.. butterfly77 Jun 2012 #20
Early on, she kicked ass. JoePhilly Jun 2012 #21
I think she's a liberal flamingdem Jun 2012 #22
Agree JoePhilly Jun 2012 #24
"he started by saying that both sides are the same" aint_no_life_nowhere Jun 2012 #2
Didn't Ratigan get his ass kicked out Woody Woodpecker Jun 2012 #3
I'm not sure when he goes, but it will be fun to see where he lands. JoePhilly Jun 2012 #4
"His get the money out" petition only has 277,000 signatures after many months. julian09 Jun 2012 #8
Martin is going to be tough to stop I think. JoePhilly Jun 2012 #16
somewhere around 20th June NT julian09 Jun 2012 #5
But did he cry? Bake Jun 2012 #7
%$##$ ... that's true!!! JoePhilly Jun 2012 #10
Hand him some Vicks Aerows Jun 2012 #17
I'm no fan of Dylan Rattigan, but he is a million miles from being anywhere close to Glen Beck. phleshdef Jun 2012 #9
Well ... JoePhilly Jun 2012 #13
I disagree with Rattigan's assessment of Pres. Obama. But I still think he is way higher... phleshdef Jun 2012 #15
The "A Sense of Direction" guy flamingdem Jun 2012 #12
Ratigan thinks of himself as a hot spotter NNN0LHI Jun 2012 #18
Male menopause? flamingdem Jun 2012 #19
There are times I like him, but B Calm Jun 2012 #23
Let's hope that Ratigan gets a good round of therapy now flamingdem Jun 2012 #25

flamingdem

(39,333 posts)
1. I couldn't agree more plus I do not think it's an accident
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 04:31 PM
Jun 2012

he's leaving. He rubbed someone the wrong way (Ed?) and/or was given the door due to his predictable undermining of the Democratic party.

At least he never said "Democrat party"!

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
6. I don't think that's what's driving his leaving.
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 04:38 PM
Jun 2012

I mean MSNBC lets Joe Scab push RW talking points for 3 hours every morning.

They let Andrea Greenspan Mitchell spew more RW talking points at 1pm.

They are putting weak Dems against stronger GOP pundits during NOW with Alex Wagner.

MSNBC during the day is RW light. Martin kicks butt, and Alex spend bout half her show looking like she's in a hostage situation. Other than that ... GOP talking points pass freely.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
14. Her show started strong ... and I get the sense that the execs reigned her in
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 04:57 PM
Jun 2012

by controlling who the guests are. Ed Rendell ... geeze, what a squid, and one example.

 

butterfly77

(17,609 posts)
20. When Alex wagner first got that show..
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 05:41 PM
Jun 2012

I wondered,who is she connected to. Wagner always looks like she is the guest and the guests usually take over.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
21. Early on, she kicked ass.
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 05:54 PM
Jun 2012

What I notice is that her show seems to, at least lately, have weak Dems, and GOP surrogates who speak in nothing but talking points.

Meanwhile, Alex tries to call out the right wing BS, but she has Ed Rendell or other weak Dems under cutting her.

When you hear her speak about war on women and on many other key topics, you can tell she wants to scream about the lies the GOP tells. But I get these sense they are trying to hamstring her.

Just today ... she, I think inadvertently, said that last week, Obama said the private sector was "strong". That was the word she used. This after a right winger said Obama pounched on McCain for saying the "Fundementals of the economy are strong" during the 2008 election ... ignoring that McCain said this while also praising the financial industry.

She used the word "strong" which Obama did not use. She got tripped up, thanks to the GOP spinners.

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
2. "he started by saying that both sides are the same"
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 04:31 PM
Jun 2012

That seemed to be the opening theme to every segment on his show.

 

Woody Woodpecker

(562 posts)
3. Didn't Ratigan get his ass kicked out
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 04:33 PM
Jun 2012

of the show?

In other words, Ratigan is leaving?

When is his ass gone?

 

julian09

(1,435 posts)
8. "His get the money out" petition only has 277,000 signatures after many months.
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 04:47 PM
Jun 2012

I think he is frustrated that he has no following. He is looking for a larger audience, but you an't do that while offending everybody.
Martin Bashir's hand off today to Dylan started with a disagreement, but Martin didn't persue it.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
16. Martin is going to be tough to stop I think.
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 04:59 PM
Jun 2012

He's like Rachel in many ways. He is not just reading what others tell him. He's calling the shots.

I think Alex has the potential, but she may not yet have the internal strength to push through. The fact that she ends up with lame guests doesn't help her.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
10. %$##$ ... that's true!!!
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 04:49 PM
Jun 2012

DR has the mock outrage ... has the dismissive tone ... the selective details ... but he does not cry.

Maybe he keeps that bottled up. Fights back the tears.

Until he gets his own chalk board?

Yea ... that's what it is!!!!

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
17. Hand him some Vicks
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 04:59 PM
Jun 2012

and let's get him out sooner than later.

If he can't see the difference, he's an idiot.

 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
9. I'm no fan of Dylan Rattigan, but he is a million miles from being anywhere close to Glen Beck.
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 04:48 PM
Jun 2012

Lets be fair here.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
13. Well ...
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 04:55 PM
Jun 2012

Both are angry Libertarians.

What I find interesting is that Beck is a Libertarian Republican. Which means he loves the SMALL GOVERNMENT, but wants it to engage the RW social issues ... and oh, Obama is a Kenyan socialist.

Dylan is a Libertarian who also wants small government, but he cares little about the social issues, and he thinks Obama is a corporatist screwing the middle class via corporate welfare.

Its like Beck and Dylan are libertarians who slightly separated on who to blame and why ... both seem to agree its Obama, but their reasons are separated by 180 degrees.

 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
15. I disagree with Rattigan's assessment of Pres. Obama. But I still think he is way higher...
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 04:58 PM
Jun 2012

...on the intellectual scale than Glen Beck.

Like I said, I'm no fan. But he can be taken somewhat serious as far as a discussion goes. He has had some good showings on Bill Maher's show. Glen Beck is a rodeo clown.

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