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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDylan Ratigan appears to be a chalk board short of becoming Glenn Beck.
In his first segment, he started by saying that both sides are the same. And then he asked his guest what we should do, and that guy said we need to invest more in infrastructure and education, and raise taxes on the rich. Humm, which candidate also says that?
Then DR goes on to explain how both sides will raise over 1 billion dollars. He makes no mention of how much the GOP will raise, versus Obama.
He might as well be telling his viewers to stay home and not vote, they are screwed, and they have no path forward.
If only he had a chalk board to make his point more clearly.
flamingdem
(39,333 posts)he's leaving. He rubbed someone the wrong way (Ed?) and/or was given the door due to his predictable undermining of the Democratic party.
At least he never said "Democrat party"!
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)I mean MSNBC lets Joe Scab push RW talking points for 3 hours every morning.
They let Andrea Greenspan Mitchell spew more RW talking points at 1pm.
They are putting weak Dems against stronger GOP pundits during NOW with Alex Wagner.
MSNBC during the day is RW light. Martin kicks butt, and Alex spend bout half her show looking like she's in a hostage situation. Other than that ... GOP talking points pass freely.
flamingdem
(39,333 posts)She does seem to have to regain control a lot.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)by controlling who the guests are. Ed Rendell ... geeze, what a squid, and one example.
butterfly77
(17,609 posts)I wondered,who is she connected to. Wagner always looks like she is the guest and the guests usually take over.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)What I notice is that her show seems to, at least lately, have weak Dems, and GOP surrogates who speak in nothing but talking points.
Meanwhile, Alex tries to call out the right wing BS, but she has Ed Rendell or other weak Dems under cutting her.
When you hear her speak about war on women and on many other key topics, you can tell she wants to scream about the lies the GOP tells. But I get these sense they are trying to hamstring her.
Just today ... she, I think inadvertently, said that last week, Obama said the private sector was "strong". That was the word she used. This after a right winger said Obama pounched on McCain for saying the "Fundementals of the economy are strong" during the 2008 election ... ignoring that McCain said this while also praising the financial industry.
She used the word "strong" which Obama did not use. She got tripped up, thanks to the GOP spinners.
flamingdem
(39,333 posts)and you are correct that they did this to curb her style
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)That seemed to be the opening theme to every segment on his show.
Woody Woodpecker
(562 posts)of the show?
In other words, Ratigan is leaving?
When is his ass gone?
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)julian09
(1,435 posts)I think he is frustrated that he has no following. He is looking for a larger audience, but you an't do that while offending everybody.
Martin Bashir's hand off today to Dylan started with a disagreement, but Martin didn't persue it.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)He's like Rachel in many ways. He is not just reading what others tell him. He's calling the shots.
I think Alex has the potential, but she may not yet have the internal strength to push through. The fact that she ends up with lame guests doesn't help her.
julian09
(1,435 posts)Bake
(21,977 posts)He has to cry. If he wants to be like Beck, he has to cry.
Bake
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)DR has the mock outrage ... has the dismissive tone ... the selective details ... but he does not cry.
Maybe he keeps that bottled up. Fights back the tears.
Until he gets his own chalk board?
Yea ... that's what it is!!!!
Aerows
(39,961 posts)and let's get him out sooner than later.
If he can't see the difference, he's an idiot.
phleshdef
(11,936 posts)Lets be fair here.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)Both are angry Libertarians.
What I find interesting is that Beck is a Libertarian Republican. Which means he loves the SMALL GOVERNMENT, but wants it to engage the RW social issues ... and oh, Obama is a Kenyan socialist.
Dylan is a Libertarian who also wants small government, but he cares little about the social issues, and he thinks Obama is a corporatist screwing the middle class via corporate welfare.
Its like Beck and Dylan are libertarians who slightly separated on who to blame and why ... both seem to agree its Obama, but their reasons are separated by 180 degrees.
phleshdef
(11,936 posts)...on the intellectual scale than Glen Beck.
Like I said, I'm no fan. But he can be taken somewhat serious as far as a discussion goes. He has had some good showings on Bill Maher's show. Glen Beck is a rodeo clown.
flamingdem
(39,333 posts)with a vision of a very boring life for Dylan! Whaaaa
NNN0LHI
(67,190 posts)Whatever the hell that is.
Don
flamingdem
(39,333 posts)B Calm
(28,762 posts)for the most part I think he's very confused. .
flamingdem
(39,333 posts)and that his therapist is A DEMOCRAT