DFA: Ask the White House to oppose a lame-duck TPP vote

[Faryn Balyncd]

Democracy For America PETITION to Hillary Clinton: "Ask the White House to oppose a lame-duck vote in Congress on the TPP"

Stopping the Trans-Pacific Partnership -- a deal negotiated in secret that gives corporations unprecedented power -- is one of the most important tasks we face in 2016.

But despite opposition from leading Democrats and progressives, the White House is pressing ahead. They are reportedly planning to hold a vote on the TPP in the "lame duck" session after the November election, when Congress doesn't have to face the consequences of their actions.

As the Democratic presidential nominee, Hillary Clinton is in a unique position to help us stop the TPP. Her campaign chair, John Podesta, said "Hillary opposes TPP BEFORE and AFTER the election." Now we need her to act -- and help stop Congress from passing the destructive, job-killing TPP.

Join Robert Reich, DFA, and CREDO by signing our petition asking Hillary Clinton to publicly urge the White House to not hold a vote on the TPP -- before or after the November election.


http://act.democracyforamerica.com/sign/hillary_tpp_vote/

[cali]

1. happy to provide the first rec for this.

[Egnever]

2. Why?

Just curios.

[cali]

3. John Conyers wrote a long piece about why. I posted it.

here is a link:

http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/economy-budget/290791-lame-duck-tpp-vote-could-be-disastrous-for-dems-and

[Egnever]

4. Because politics?

that is a piss poor reason.

While the causes and consequences of the public perception are many, there’s one hot-button issue in this campaign that exemplifies what people see as wrong with the system: The Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP).

Honestly that article makes me wonder if he has even read the agreement.

[cali]

6. Have you? Read it, I mean? I've been slogging through it since I downloaded

it 8 months ago. And I read every leaked chapter and annotations. I know exactly why I oppose it- and Conyers said a lot more than 'because politics'- thought that would be reason enough. Shockingly, politics is the process through which policy emerges.

[Egnever]

11. Yes as a matter of fact I have

and the fact that you claim reading "leaked" chapters when the whole text is available for anyone to look at https://ustr.gov/trade-agreements/free-trade-agreements/trans-pacific-partnership/tpp-full-text

Leads me to believe either you are relying on propaganda or are intentionally misleading people to think the text is not available.


It has been freely available for months now. The whole it's secret oh noes nonsense was just that nonsense. The funny thing is most of the people salivating over supposed leaked snippets fell oddly silent once the actual text was released.

And no politics is not good enough when we are talking about a trade agreement of this scale. Politics is good enough is what gave us Many Dems Iraq war vote. Politics is often not nearly a good enough reason for any legislation.

Since you know exactly why you oppose it maybe you can lay it out. I am open to valid criticism but Conyers piece you linked was full of nonsense that reads like he never even looked at the agreement.

[cali]

12. Sigh. As many DUers know, I read the leaked chapters when they were leaked, dear.

And I've posted the link to the full text at the USTR and Whitehouse.guv.

And I call bull on your reading the entire thing.. I've been working on it for over 7 months, and I'm not through it yet.

Yes, I can lay it out, again.

I've posted an op where I will be doing that.

[Egnever]

13. You are right I haven't read every single word

But I have read enough of it to recognize a large majority of the criticism has been complete hogwash.. For example just last night I responded to this bit of bs

The TPP does not allow disputes to be settled in a court of law.

Instead, disputes go to non-court "arbitrators" in which international corporate lawyers who are called "arbitrators" will rule on cases, not real judges.

There almost is no appeal of the corporate lawyers' decisions to a real court with real rules on evidence and procedure.

The little guy or small company or your town that wants to buy local will lose every time and the big international corporations will always win.

The TPP should be called the Corporate Profits Protection Treaty 'cause that's the only thing that it does.

Complete nonsense the panels are appointed by the parties that are party to the case. One from each side with the third, the chair, agreed upon by both parties. Nothing even close to what the poster described.

Just one example of the BS being spread about this agreement. I have no Idea where the poster got the idea that was true but having read many of the posts here on this subject my guess is he read it here right on DU.

[cali]

14. please link to text you're quoting from.

[Egnever]

15. I did not want to call out the poster but here ya go

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=8098651

[OnDoutside]

5. Robert F**KING Reich ???? The same arse that has been attacking Clinton, as bad as any Republican ?

He has a neck like a jockey's nether region.

[cali]

7. I love Reich. How about Conyers?

Staunch Clinton supporter, against a lame duck session vote on the TPP. AS ARE THE VAST MAJORITY OF CONGRESSIONAL DEMS AND VIRTUALLY ALL LIBERAL DEMS IN BOTH HOUSES.

[OnDoutside]

8. The point I'm making is that Reich has been spending months attacking Clinton, so

it's r(e)ich for him to be asking anything of her that shouldn't require a middle finger in response.

[cali]

9. oh for the love of a tiny bit of reason. Oh for the love of a smidgeon of logic.

the fucking primaries are fucking over. Done. Finis. He's endorsed her. He didn't in the primary. So the fuckity fuck what?

[Faryn Balyncd]

10. Robert Reich: Why Bernie Supporters Should Back Hillary

Robert Reich: Why Bernie Supporters Should Back Hillary
By Robert Reich On 7/21/16 at 6:20 AM

This article first appeared on RobertReich.org.

May I have a word with those of you Bernie Sanders supporters who consider Donald Trump to be no worse than Hillary Clinton?

You’re dead wrong.

As I said when I endorsed Sanders for president, I view Clinton as enormously qualified to be president of the political system we now have. She is smart, capable and experienced. I endorsed Sanders because I thought he would help create the political system we need. But Sanders will not be the Democratic nominee.

This does not mean the end of the movement Sanders advanced. That movement was never about Sanders; it was about reclaiming our democracy and our economy. And that movement will live on, and it will grow. It needs your continuing activism and your tenacity. . . .


http://www.newsweek.com/robert-reich-why-bernie-supporters-should-back-hillary-482344