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PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,861 posts)
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 09:40 AM Aug 2016

We all remember President Thomas Dewey.

You know, the guy who trounced Harry Truman in 1948.

Perhaps the stories are apocryphal, but even my own mother told one about being at an Election Night gathering that evening with people utterly confident Truman would be out and Dewey soon in the White House, but had somehow neglected to vote.

We do NOT want to live with a similar historic photo of Trump giddily displaying a newspaper with a headline about the First Woman President. So even if his polling numbers drop to ten percent of the vote don't take her win for granted. To go that low there might have to be an incredible surge in votes for Stein and Johnson, which would be a very different problem for Clinton.

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We all remember President Thomas Dewey. (Original Post) PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2016 OP
I clearly remember the photo... liberalmuse Aug 2016 #1
just not a good comparison. cali Aug 2016 #2
what polls they had then were laughable: Gabi Hayes Aug 2016 #5
Wow. Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2016 #3
In a world where Donald J. Trump is a major party's nominee for POTUS Proud Liberal Dem Aug 2016 #4
1)Trump is no Truman. 2)Clinton is no Dewey. 3)It is not 1948. yellowcanine Aug 2016 #6
For far too many people, it is indeed. LanternWaste Aug 2016 #10
I am not comparing either of the two running today PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2016 #7
Yeah their thousands of scientific polls and instant internet communication screwed the pooch there. whatthehey Aug 2016 #8
Hopefully all those dismissing sarisataka Aug 2016 #9

liberalmuse

(18,672 posts)
1. I clearly remember the photo...
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 10:16 AM
Aug 2016

...of Truman holding up the newspaper with that headline in my elementary school textbook. I think right now it's a good thing that we Democrats are prone to handwringing and worrying, even when we're ahead. I don't care if HRC is up by 25% in November, I'll be ensuring my ballot is submitted and firmly believe Democrats will be out in full force, regardless.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
10. For far too many people, it is indeed.
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 03:09 PM
Aug 2016

"That is all..."

For far too many people, it is indeed. I can only imagine the simplicity of thought "that is all" brings to one's mind.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,861 posts)
7. I am not comparing either of the two running today
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 01:50 PM
Aug 2016

to either of the two candidates running in 1948. And I am quite aware of the flaws in the polling back then.

My point is not to be complacent, that's all.

And I've seen the photo. Not old enough to have seen it in person.

whatthehey

(3,660 posts)
8. Yeah their thousands of scientific polls and instant internet communication screwed the pooch there.
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 02:02 PM
Aug 2016

Oh that's right they really didn't have those, nor updated individual level GOTV databases, ads directed by individual activity and social media.

We need to rely on neighborhood potlucks and radio speeches to stop this travesty reoccurring!

sarisataka

(18,656 posts)
9. Hopefully all those dismissing
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 02:53 PM
Aug 2016

The upcoming election will not be sitting down to a crow buffet. If I recall my history correctly Dewey enjoyed a greater lead in September of '48 then Mrs. Clinton has now.

Everytime I see someone commenting about how this election is in the bag and we have nothing to worry about my blood chills another degree. Many of the same people who assured everyone that Trump would drop out or never be nominated are the same ones predicting a historic landslide.

I much prefer to be overcautious than overconfident.

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