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Stinky The Clown

(67,806 posts)
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 01:03 PM Aug 2016

Beware of a ratfuck

This whole Manafort thing makes me nervous. If true, it is a great thing. It could give us both houses of Congress. But dirty tricksters (like Stone and Manafort) excel at this sort of thing. Yes, I know all media is covering this and carrying the story, but we need to be damned sure it is correct before pushing it too hard.

If it does turn out to be true, this needs to be HAMMERED!!

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Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
4. might have to change my sigline.....from the same feed:
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 01:13 PM
Aug 2016


somebody should morph the faces together like Bergman did in Persona

sarae

(3,284 posts)
2. People like Stone and Manafort are experts
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 01:09 PM
Aug 2016

at weaseling their way out of anything. They've had a lifetime of practice. How can anyone believe anything they say?!

drray23

(7,633 posts)
5. at this stage we are fine
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 01:15 PM
Aug 2016

It was posted by Lewandowsky, not the DNC or the Clinton campaign. All Hillary has to do is to stand back a bit and let it develop until its solid. She can then hook and reel.

ThoughtCriminal

(14,047 posts)
8. Standard RF trap would look something like this...
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 01:12 AM
Aug 2016

Leak a document that appears to confirm the story and then is proven to be a forgery. From that point on, the original evidence is "discredited" and the media backs off entirely.

A proven method. Expect it within a week or two.



Kathy M

(1,242 posts)
9. If true story yes great thing . I honestly do not trust Manafort , Stone , Don
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 03:15 AM
Aug 2016

and now Corey (sp) I remember reading Stone hates Clinton politics ( new York Times article ) We will see how this all unfolds . Don , Manafort, Stone have known each other 30 plus years . Manafort took apartment at Trump Towers in 2006 .

"The genesis of Donald Trump’s relationship with Paul Manafort begins with Roy Cohn. That Roy Cohn: Joe McCarthy’s heavy-lidded henchman, lawyer to the Genovese family. During the ’70s, Trump and his father hired Cohn as their lawyer to defend the family against a housing discrimination suit. (Cohn accused the Feds of using “Gestapo-like tactics.”) But Cohn and Trump became genuine pals, lunching at the Four Seasons and clubbing together at Studio 54. It was Roy Cohn who introduced Stone and Manafort to Trump."

Manafort and Stone had an office on K street

"Another early client was Donald J. Trump. What Trump wanted was help fending off potential rivals to his Atlantic City casino business. He especially feared the rise of Indian gaming. As the 2016 campaign has graphically illustrated, Trump doesn’t treat rivals gently. Testifying before a congressional committee in 1993, he began with his rote protestations of friendship. “Nobody likes Indians as much as Donald Trump.”

"Manafort didn’t own the Trump account at the firm. But one of his former partners told me that he would dispense advice and pitch in, winning Trump’s trust. When Manafort took an apartment in Trump Towers in 2006, he would kibitz with his old client when they’d run into one another on the elevator. “Trump knew this guy was top drawer,” says one Republican operative."

Rest of article which is pretty interesting ....

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/04/paul_manafort_isn_t_a_gop_retread_he_s_made_a_career_of_reinventing_tyrants.html

GOTV in Nov !!!!! I am concerned Republicans are taping in to people that have not voted for a very long time or will be first time , not sure if they would even show up on the polls we are seeing now

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