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MADem

(135,425 posts)
Fri Aug 26, 2016, 08:53 PM Aug 2016

George W. Bush was a mush-mouthed moron as a POTUS candidate.

I thought I'd never heard such a stumblebum running for POTUS in my entire life.


I'm watching the 2000 Bush v. Gore debate with Jim Leher as moderator on CSPAN, and even though Bush still sounds like a mush-mouthed moron to my ear, he comes off like a frigging Rhodes Scholar compared to Trump.

How LOW can the damn bar go?


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George W. Bush was a mush-mouthed moron as a POTUS candidate. (Original Post) MADem Aug 2016 OP
The bar has been set so low that......... guillaumeb Aug 2016 #1
The bar has been set so low that ... MADem Aug 2016 #2
Yes, the bar has been set very low, guillaumeb Aug 2016 #3
Ha ha!! nt MADem Aug 2016 #6
Remember the 2004 debates? "It's hard work" Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #4
OMG, yeah--the limbo team had to get seriously subterranean for that one! MADem Aug 2016 #5
Yeah, he had some sort of radio device for the second one. Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #8
The box on his back!!! MADem Aug 2016 #17
There was a real difference in performance between #1 and #2 Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #21
"Let me finish!" hatrack Aug 2016 #22
Yep. Was being helped. People are so dumb to have voted for W. NT Divine Discontent Aug 2016 #34
... sheshe2 Aug 2016 #10
Jack be nimble Jack be quick, Jack go UNDER limbo stick! MADem Aug 2016 #15
We did as kids.... sheshe2 Aug 2016 #18
Shrub was right about it being hard work - it is. Avalux Aug 2016 #9
He wants Pence to do it--he thinks he'll just be the "idea man." MADem Aug 2016 #14
I would *kick* this topic!1 n/t UTUSN Aug 2016 #7
Heh heh...! nt MADem Aug 2016 #16
Actually.... Watch the g bush Anne Richards debate DonRedwood Aug 2016 #11
I don't seek that turkey out--CSPAN is doing the "let's have a look back" thing MADem Aug 2016 #13
Me too but it opened my eyes DonRedwood Aug 2016 #37
Oh I agree with that POV--when he made that comment about how MADem Aug 2016 #38
A meat puppet. hunter Aug 2016 #12
I never thought Bush awoke_in_2003 Aug 2016 #19
Remember when a plane with six nukes went rouge in 2007? KittyWampus Aug 2016 #27
Bush still IS a moron. LeftRant Aug 2016 #20
He didn't take his ritalin that day I think ... MADem Aug 2016 #26
Good God, that's so embarrassing. Laura had to cry later. Divine Discontent Aug 2016 #33
I never thought I would see the day when a republican presidential candidate smirkymonkey Aug 2016 #23
Seriously democrattotheend Aug 2016 #29
remember bush won....the base will vote for whomever bears the logo dembotoz Aug 2016 #24
He didn't win, though--how soon we forget! SELECTED, not ELECTED! nt MADem Aug 2016 #25
What's scary is that even Bush doesn't seem so bad compared to Trump democrattotheend Aug 2016 #28
I know what you mean but PCIntern Aug 2016 #30
Well, Ike spoke un-mangled English! MADem Aug 2016 #32
YEP....not just a Rhodes scholar by comparison, but .... MADem Aug 2016 #31
A country of 320+ million, divided sammythecat Aug 2016 #35
I keep saying that "Idiocracy" is coming true! MADem Aug 2016 #36

MADem

(135,425 posts)
2. The bar has been set so low that ...
Fri Aug 26, 2016, 09:07 PM
Aug 2016

If you traveled 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea, you'd still be too high!!!!

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
4. Remember the 2004 debates? "It's hard work"
Fri Aug 26, 2016, 09:10 PM
Aug 2016

Presidentin', and stuff.

After that first debate I thought for sure he was toast.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
5. OMG, yeah--the limbo team had to get seriously subterranean for that one!
Fri Aug 26, 2016, 09:31 PM
Aug 2016

I wonder if they'll show that one on CSPAN, too--I am guessing they will.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
8. Yeah, he had some sort of radio device for the second one.
Fri Aug 26, 2016, 09:49 PM
Aug 2016

We know he did. Karl Rove whispering answers in his ear.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
17. The box on his back!!!
Fri Aug 26, 2016, 11:52 PM
Aug 2016

I always thought that was a holter monitor....

When he had the pretzel incident I thought he had cardiovascular issues!

MADem

(135,425 posts)
15. Jack be nimble Jack be quick, Jack go UNDER limbo stick!
Fri Aug 26, 2016, 11:50 PM
Aug 2016

I can't even imagine doing that on the most fit day of my long forgotten youth!!!!

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
9. Shrub was right about it being hard work - it is.
Fri Aug 26, 2016, 09:50 PM
Aug 2016

Trump can't even handle the rigors of a campaign, he keeps canceling events. How in the hell could he handle being president?

MADem

(135,425 posts)
14. He wants Pence to do it--he thinks he'll just be the "idea man."
Fri Aug 26, 2016, 11:47 PM
Aug 2016

Oh, and he'll be the king. He'll have AF1 gold-plated and ride around barking orders at people.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
13. I don't seek that turkey out--CSPAN is doing the "let's have a look back" thing
Fri Aug 26, 2016, 11:45 PM
Aug 2016

in anticipation of the upcoming general election debates and when nothing's good on the TV, I'll wander over that way.

I loved Anne Richards, I don't think I'd want to see him sharking on her.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
38. Oh I agree with that POV--when he made that comment about how
Sat Aug 27, 2016, 11:58 PM
Aug 2016

the Constitution was "just a piece of paper" and how he didn't give a shit how history would see him, because he'd be dead, it was obvious that he lacked what some would term a soul. No care or concern for his fellow man at any meaningful level...

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
27. Remember when a plane with six nukes went rouge in 2007?
Sat Aug 27, 2016, 09:14 AM
Aug 2016

2007 United States Air Force nuclear weapons incident

Six nuclear warheads mishandled and unaccounted for, or improperly secured, for approximately 36 hours

The 2007 United States Air Force nuclear weapons incident occurred on 29–30 August 2007. Six AGM-129 ACM cruise missiles, each loaded with a W80-1 variable yield nuclear warhead, were mistakenly loaded onto a United States Air Force (USAF) B-52H heavy bomber at Minot Air Force Base and transported to Barksdale Air Force Base. The nuclear warheads in the missiles were supposed to have been removed before taking the missiles from their storage bunker. The missiles with the nuclear warheads were not reported missing and remained mounted to the aircraft at both Minot and Barksdale for 36 hours. During this period, the warheads were not protected by the various mandatory security precautions for nuclear weapons.[1]

The incident was reported to the top levels of the United States military and referred to by observers as a Bent Spear incident, which indicates a nuclear weapon incident that is of significant concern but does not involve the immediate threat of nuclear war.

In response to the incident, the United States Department of Defense (DoD) and USAF conducted an investigation, the results of which were released on 19 October 2007. The investigation concluded that nuclear weapons handling standards and procedures had not been followed by numerous USAF personnel involved in the incident. As a result, four USAF commanders were relieved of their commands, numerous other USAF personnel were disciplined and/or decertified to perform certain types of sensitive duties, and further cruise missile transport missions from—and nuclear weapons operations at—Minot Air Force Base were suspended. In addition, the USAF issued new nuclear weapons handling instructions and procedures.

Separate investigations by the United States Defense Science Board and a USAF "Blue Ribbon" panel reported that concerns existed on the procedures and processes for handling nuclear weapons within the Department of Defense but did not find any failures with the security of United States nuclear weapons. Based on this and other incidents, on 5 June 2008, Secretary of the Air Force Michael Wynne and Chief of Staff of the Air Force General T. Michael Moseley were asked for their resignations, which were given. In October 2008, in response to recommendations by a review committee, the USAF announced the creation of Air Force Global Strike Command to control all USAF nuclear bombers, missiles, and personnel



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_United_States_Air_Force_nuclear_weapons_incident

MADem

(135,425 posts)
26. He didn't take his ritalin that day I think ...
Sat Aug 27, 2016, 09:07 AM
Aug 2016

His wife looks like she's ready to slap him silly.

Divine Discontent

(21,056 posts)
33. Good God, that's so embarrassing. Laura had to cry later.
Sat Aug 27, 2016, 10:41 AM
Aug 2016

There's something screw there. Ya just don't do that a funeral DURING the emotional songs. He's creepy. Michelle showed such class. I think I might have asked Dubya to relax if I was the sitting president and I was presiding over this awful solemn event. I figure he was like, yep world, look at that giant Ass, the former pResident....

Thanks for the clip

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
23. I never thought I would see the day when a republican presidential candidate
Sat Aug 27, 2016, 07:42 AM
Aug 2016

would make me nostalgic for W.

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
28. What's scary is that even Bush doesn't seem so bad compared to Trump
Sat Aug 27, 2016, 09:25 AM
Aug 2016

I hated almost everything he did and said as president and I never thought another politician would make me angrier. But at least Bush was not overtly racist, went out of his way to point out that not all Muslims were terrorists, and actually tried to win Latino votes instead of using them as punching bags. His policies were bad for minorities but at least his rhetoric wasn't racially divisive the way Trump's is.

PCIntern

(25,552 posts)
30. I know what you mean but
Sat Aug 27, 2016, 09:34 AM
Aug 2016

I find that versions of this conversation date back to the 1960 election: "for all his faults at least Ike didn't..."

MADem

(135,425 posts)
32. Well, Ike spoke un-mangled English!
Sat Aug 27, 2016, 10:15 AM
Aug 2016

Bush murdered the English language, but at least he sounded like a sixth grader, not a third grader (that's Trump) when he made a pronouncement! I mean, it's a YUUUUUUGE difference! Sad!

MADem

(135,425 posts)
31. YEP....not just a Rhodes scholar by comparison, but ....
Sat Aug 27, 2016, 10:12 AM
Aug 2016

((((SHUDDER)))) .... a statesman!!!


Only by comparison, mind you!


How low can we go?

sammythecat

(3,568 posts)
35. A country of 320+ million, divided
Sat Aug 27, 2016, 01:46 PM
Aug 2016

roughly 50/50 red and blue, it would seem to be statistically impossible for such utter garbage to keep rising to the top of the red half, but it does. It keeps getting worse and I no longer think of this as an aberration. This is it, the reality of what America is and I find it, at best, very worrisome.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
36. I keep saying that "Idiocracy" is coming true!
Sat Aug 27, 2016, 02:45 PM
Aug 2016

That movie infuriated me for its pure stupidity...yet I couldn't stop watching! It's a harbinger of our sad future, I fear!!!!!

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