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by the GOP and those who support them, is Offensive to me as an American citizen. It is an insult to me. I demand an apology. You will respect the office of President.
malaise
(269,112 posts)It's unacceptable -it is racist to the core
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The GOP is racist to the core
Meiko
(1,076 posts)racist. Did he use a slur?
Uncle Joe
(58,379 posts)Thanks for the thread, DearAbby.
WI_DEM
(33,497 posts)DearAbby
(12,461 posts)This is shameful, disrespectful behavior. I take it as a personal insult. GOP should apologize, NOW.
Event-Horizon
(4 posts)...the GOP is responsible ?
olegramps
(8,200 posts)Republican are not responsible, because they are not responsible citizens.
DearAbby
(12,461 posts)grantcart
(53,061 posts)when they improve then they can leave the sandbox.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)He has said this is one of the debates that we need to have as Americans. The media is GOP owned and refuses to do anything but promote the going out of business sale.
A lot of people have bought this line of thinking, a product of the GOP's making, that it's not worth trying anything to keep this nation going, so let it die and let them take it over piece by piece.
That's the choice people have.
swayne
(383 posts)it to an African-American, in this case, the President of the United States.
The outrage will be limited until the sun goes down on the day, unfortunately.
And no one will ask Willard about it.
MrTwister
(76 posts)Raster
(20,998 posts)Zax2me
(2,515 posts)I would like to know if it was a tea bagger asking the question.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)And let's also ask how many times has this happened in American history? Answer is the number of times it has happened to Obama.
DallasNE
(7,403 posts)But Samuel Alito with his "not true" at another SOTU address.
And lets not forget Gov. Brewer wagging her finger at Obama at the airport in Arizona. So this isn't just once but at least 4 showings of extreme disrespect.
Can anybody come up with a single time Reagan was shown this type of disrespect? Or even George W. Bush?
livetohike
(22,156 posts)and Al Sharpton, too....but that's it. Where is everyone else? This is disgusting.
coalition_unwilling
(14,180 posts)moment ("Have you no shame? Have you no sense of decency?" and it never comes. When one of the few semi-decent Repigs has finally had enough. Maybe Colin Powell? He might plausibly be able to shame the Repigs into STFU-land.
DearAbby
(12,461 posts)his position won't allow it. We as citizens must speak out. The lack of respect for this office reflects on each and every one of us. We must stand up and demand an apology. GOP has personally insulted me. Insulted you.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)in their website lairs. I don't mean to sound alarmist, but if I were Obama I'd be careful about appearing in public. They're getting desperate and nasty. You just know if the unthinkable happened to Obama they wouldn't show an ounce of respect and would be high-fiving that too.
Wednesdays
(17,391 posts)If it happened to Obama, there'd be parades and fireworks.
4th law of robotics
(6,801 posts)And this sort of stuff happens to all presidents. The main difference is that when you don't like that president it's patriotic dissent or sticking it to that fascist.
When it happens to a president you like it's disrespectful, possibly a step away from a civil war.
Wednesdays
(17,391 posts)Fermentia
(9 posts)Here are two incidents (I found several, but these were the most amusing.)
4th law of robotics
(6,801 posts)no that never happened to anyone else.
If you mean heckling in general it's as old as politics. Apparently the 60s were the worst in the US.
http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/01463377909369330#preview
Teddy Roosevelt had a badger thrown at him once during a campaign speech.
Could you imagine the outrage if a wild animal had been thrown at Obama? Granted with the secret service that little girl would have been blown away before she ever got close but still.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)"We are very proud of, @NeilMunroDC for doing his job," the DC tweeted.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2012/06/daily-caller-reporter-heckles-president-obama-126302.html
Disgusting.
malaise
(269,112 posts)Wow!
The Wizard
(12,546 posts)is a wealthy elite born rich. Fuck him.
DaveJ
(5,023 posts)I'm sure Munro is lying, but if he said it was an accident then it makes no sense for Carlson to defend it:
Munro said he misjudged when Obama was ending his speech.
"I timed the question believing the president was closing his remarks, because naturally I have no intention of interrupting the President of the United States,"
http://www.politico.com/politico44/2012/06/obama-interrupted-by-heckling-reporter-126301.html
malaise
(269,112 posts)He interrupted him in the middle of his statement. Obama said something but as he went on he was actually answering him when he was interrupted again.
He's a first rate scumbag and a LIAR
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)Jon Stewart was right.
hamsterjill
(15,223 posts)I agree completely. The GOP has encouraged a lack of respect for President Obama, first by they, themselves, interrupting speeches. Now they laugh and guffaw when someone else does it to the President.
As a citizen, *I* am interested in hearing what the President has to say without him being interrupted or heckled. He is the President of the United States of America, and that alone, makes him deserving of respect.
aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)hamsterjill
(15,223 posts)Another great example.
Voice for Peace
(13,141 posts)while they do nothing.
twitter1
(18 posts)Everybody deserves respect -except Republicans.
twitter1
(18 posts)Foolish wars have bankrupted the economy.
lpbk2713
(42,763 posts)Mosaic
(1,451 posts)We need to remember that.
DearAbby
(12,461 posts)We must demand an apology. If we don't stand up now, when? It will only get worse.
Swede Atlanta
(3,596 posts)I would suggest this reporter might be an ideal candidate for extraordinary rendition to some far off land.
But I am not. We are headed toward total decomposition if we do not restore civility and respect in public discourse. The problem is you have one party that is so tied to strict ideology and hatred for the President and his supporters that any type of reconciliation is unlikely.
I have no problem with open, vigorous debate provided it is fact-based, respectful and promotes an understanding and advocacy of competing views and opinions. But what we have going on in the country is far from that. It is just mud slinging from the Reich wing. They don't care if they put glass shards, nails or shrapnel in the mud as they toss it across. They don't even aim very well. They just hope it lands with a splat and someone gets sprayed by it.
GarroHorus
(1,055 posts)Barack Obama handles it all with grace.
He should not have to handle it, but there you are. The party of racism refuses to respect the office of the president.
OKNancy
(41,832 posts)coalition_unwilling
(14,180 posts)of how he handled this. That icy professorial rebuke was, I think, just the right touch (even though I would have preferred a "F-U, MF"
Thank you for mentioning Robinson, another example of 'grace under fire' at its finest.
Gemini Cat
(2,820 posts)tblue37
(65,457 posts)Or is it just about the general lack of respect the Rethugs display toward President Obama?
lpbk2713
(42,763 posts)Link: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014144742
The article is generous in calling the heckler a reporter when he is just a shill blogger for Tucker Carlson.
tblue37
(65,457 posts)I have been avoiding TV for a bit and not online much the last couple of days, so I missed that.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)pacalo
(24,721 posts)ag_dude
(562 posts)...the GOP would have gone ape shit.
gademocrat7
(10,665 posts)Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)calimary
(81,383 posts)Assholes.
If, Heaven forbid, romney wins, I hope our Dems obstruct him as much as the CONS obstructed our President.
YES I realize nothing much will get done, but I think we have to start hitting them back - in kind. Answer their bullying by bullying them BACK.
Taste of their own medicine. See how they like it. And we will be doing the work of the country by preventing the CONs' agenda from being advanced.
DaveJ
(5,023 posts)Ours are based on real issues, like needless wars, enriching the rich, destroying the environment, denying health coverage, actual issues.
Their attacks are just based on veiled, or not so veiled, racism.
I was just reminded of how disgusting Repukes are reading these comments:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303822204577468343924191180.html?mod=WSJ_hps_LEFTTopStories#articleTabs%3Dcomments
HotRodTuna
(114 posts)We objected to you because we're right and you're wrong. You object to us because you're racists.
lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)wandy
(3,539 posts)and slapped the fool silley.
How discusting can the Teaparty party get.
coalition_unwilling
(14,180 posts)she grudgingly concedes that the lesser of two evils is a valid stance this year).
When I mentioned the incident to her a short while ago and said I wished Obama would say "Fuck you, you motherfucker(s)," she immediately agreed and said she'd become far more enthusiastic for him were he to do so.
Just one good, tactical F-bomb and Obama's approval rating would hit 99%!
roody
(10,849 posts)AndyA
(16,993 posts)on immigration.
ErikJ
(6,335 posts)Since Obama took office just look what he did.
Dow is UP 6000 from 6500 to 12,500
GDP is UP 11% from -9% to 2%
Corporate profits set records in 2010 and 11.
Bush was LOSING 700,000 jobs a MONTH and for the past 2 years
Obama has been ADDING up to 200,000 jobs a month.
Vote Romney who promises a return to Bush economics .....on steroids.
AndyA
(16,993 posts)First at the State of the Union, and now this.
George W. Bush wouldn't have tolerated it, he probably would have stuck the perpetrator in Gitmo, never to be seen or heard from again.
It was really hard to have respect for Bush, as he had no respect for the American people. But he was appointed pResident by the SCOTUS, so there wasn't much choice. President Obama was duly elected to represent everyone, including those who treat him without the respect he deserves.
It's insulting to the American people.
pokerfan
(27,677 posts)Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)of thing around. As it is, he's the victim and this asshole's faction are all celebrating a "victory".
$.02
K&R
Sen. Walter Sobchak
(8,692 posts)Or at least a police baton type implement?
LibGranny
(711 posts)babylonsister
(171,079 posts)aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)related to immigration and a blogger with a day press pass (not a regular press credential) interrupted him at least twice and then kept talking over Obama as he tried to finish his statement. You can hear him talking in the background over Obama even after the interruptions so it seems like he was just there to obstruct.
babylonsister
(171,079 posts)Paka
(2,760 posts)For this remarkable man fighting against all the odds to build back our country, to be treated like this should be so offensive to any sane person as to bring an immediate rebuke. And yet we hear nothing and the disrespect not only continues, but escalates. Luckily I don't hear about a lot of it, because I'm far away outside the country, but I cry a little inside often over the things I do hear.
Sick powerful people don't apologize. Apology represents weakness to them. I have relatives who have told me how sad and pathetic it makes one to apologize. Even if you are wrong you never admit it.
When I was out in the streets before the Iraq War my sister threatened to kick me out of her house because she said I was disrespecting her President. I pointed out that my disrespect was for War not the President nor the office. She and her husband now cheer on the disrespect for President Obama and send me disgusting viral anti-Obama emails.
The haters are a tough nut to crack and apologies are not their thing, but stand up to them we must, so let's all keep pounding on them with a very big hammer; APOLOGY, APOLOGY, APOLOGY. I too am sick of their twisted hatred.
ChazII
(6,205 posts)coalition_unwilling
(14,180 posts)pacalo
(24,721 posts)tallahasseedem
(6,716 posts)Bellerophon
(50 posts)Left the barn when Bush was president. Hard to expect people to treat obama any different than him......
Raster
(20,998 posts)Name it. I dare you. Bush* wasn't even asked tough questions. Most of his public appearances and press conferences were so scripted, they could have won Tony Awards.
Again, name the date, time and place Bush* was heckled or disrespected by a liberal, progressive journalist.
malaise
(269,112 posts)Not one Congressperson shouted LIAR to Bush at the SOU
Not one governor pointed fingers in Bush's face and not one member of the WH press reporters interrupted a Bush statement.
Not one Supreme Court judge ever shook his head at a President at the SOU (and Obama has been proven correct)
What's more Bush was a fucking LIAR.
It is one thing when citizens heckle government officials -they have that right but it is completely different when elected officials attempt to suggest that the President is not legitimate.
HangOnKids
(4,291 posts)Skittles
(153,170 posts)I guess we are lucky Belcraphon did not say OSAMA
olegramps
(8,200 posts)Gemini Cat
(2,820 posts)That's horse shit, but you already knew that.
myrna minx
(22,772 posts)SemperEadem
(8,053 posts)"Lese-majesty /ˌliːz ˈmædʒɨsti/[1] (French: lèse majesté [lɛz maʒɛste]; Law French, from the Latin laesa maiestas, "injured majesty"; in English, also lese majesty or leze majesty) is the crime of violating majesty, an offense against the dignity of a reigning sovereign or against a state.
I, too, am offended and sick of the Office of the President being sullied and degraded by ignorant, poor-mannered assholes.
rury
(1,021 posts)I'm sick of these racist buffoons!!
ManyShadesOf
(639 posts)They installed DUBYA ferchrissakes! They piss on the office AND the Constitution.
tclambert
(11,087 posts)I know what you'll say. Bush WAS an idiot, IS an idiot, WILL ALWAYS BE an idiot. Yes, but in his case it was disrespectful to tell the truth. It hurt his feelings something awful. You could see how he cringed whenever he said something he realized was stupid, and he'd get all defensive about it. How many nights he must have cried himself to sleep, poor man.
Now, President Obama doesn't have insecurities like that about his intellect. He knows he's smart. So it can't bother him as much when idiots disagree with him. He just pities them. You can see it in his eyes whenever he has to deal with John Boehner.
Cooley Hurd
(26,877 posts)HangOnKids
(4,291 posts)I mean really, during a Rose Garden speech? These ass hats have no shame and no sense of protocol, even if they despise the man. Cowardly fuckwittage by this fool. Bought and paid for by Fucker Carlson for sure. What a shit show.
4th law of robotics
(6,801 posts)when bush was in office that were not entirely intended to be friendly and respectful.
MrTwister
(76 posts)I was offended by that twerp that heckled President Obama.
But, I must admit, when the Iraqi threw the shoe at Bush, we on the Left loved it.
HangOnKids
(4,291 posts)This clown was just being a asshole. For the sake of being an asshole. Big difference.
MrTwister
(76 posts)That does make a difference.
47of74
(18,470 posts)My dad would've taken time out his busy day to tan my hide if I had behaved as disrespectfully to the President as these fucking low life GOP pigs do on a daily basis.
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)elleng
(131,028 posts)Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)Then when Bush ran for President and he was selected by the Supreme Court to be the resident of the White House in 2000, we were told to STFU.
We were also told not to criticize the Hamburger-in-Cheese during a time of war.
Like we might cause Bush to drink hard whiskey and choke on a pretzel and fall down and hurted himself.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)You wait until he is done and hope you are called on when or IF he opens it up for questions afterwards.
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hue
(4,949 posts)BDPubsSameSame
(3 posts)You respected Dubya too?
Cooley Hurd
(26,877 posts)We NEVER interrupted a State of the Union Speech.
We NEVER vowed to oppose everything proposed by the Bush Admin - even things we were in favor of to begin with - in order to defeat him at the polls - even if it meant trashing the economy.
We NEVER threatened his life.
Nice try at a false equivalency, and welcome to DU.
spanone
(135,855 posts)madrchsod
(58,162 posts)it`s the lack of respect of the office of the president of our united states is what this child did.
KatChatter
(194 posts)that has been inhabited by people that have made a joke out of it for over 30 years now.
I respect people not a title.
Rod Mollise
(18 posts)If there is an apology it will be the standard G.O.P. non-apology: "I'M SORRY IF I _OFFENDED_ ANYBODY_..."
The truth is, the GOP leadership knows the base eats this up and will do absolutely nothing to discourage this sort of behavior, at least as long as they aren't caught with their hands in cookiejar.
HotRodTuna
(114 posts)I had a British co-worker who put up a defaced picture of W in the workroom with some derogatory joke on it. Democrat or Republican I thought it was bs to diss the President of the US like that; but this guy saw so much of that treatment of Bush he figured it was totally cool to slam him. He was corrected. As is anyone that talks crap about Obama, other than policy disagreements.
I'd say Obama is getting more publicized cases if Lack of Deference than Bush by his co-workers in the Press and Congress, but as far as general disrespect, I don't think he's getting it any worse than Bush. Try making a caricature of Obama as a monkey, as was commonly done with Bush, as see how far that gets you.
It sounds like this reported is being duly handled by his peers, and he's probably lost his spot in the press room; hope it was worth it.